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Assembling a Gun in Occupied Poland
Gun Watch ^ | 2 June, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/03/2014 4:25:32 AM PDT by marktwain

Polish Occupied Territories in 1941 Note the Radom District, Center Left

This story is purely anecdotal.   It was told to me by the principle participant about his actions during WWII when he was a teenager/young man in NAZI occupied Poland.   I believed him when he told it to me; I still believe him.  I doubt that he will write a biography, so I will relate the events here so that they may be preserved.

I met the old soldier while I was working for the U.S. Army in Panama.  It was 1986, just before Christmas.  Another friend had brought him over for dinner, and I was enthralled with his personal accounts from WWII.  He was an accomplished linguist and knew several languages - English, German, Russian, French, Spanish, probably Korean as well.  He credited his mastery of more than one German dialect with his ability to survive WWII.  He said that he had been commissioned as a lieutenant in the Polish resistance forces when he was 16.

He had seen the war coming; as preparation, he had studied and mastered at least two German dialects.   Early in the war, he was captured and sent to a German labor camp.   He was born into the Polish aristocracy, and, perhaps because of his fluent German, the camp commander sent for him one day.  I am not certain if the commander had some small chore for him to do; but the commander said that he had heard that the Polish aristocracy had a reputation for keeping their word, and the commander wished to test that reputation.

He proposed this test: I will give you a pass to go back to your home and visit your family; you will give me your word that you will return as required on the pass.    Maybe he had to deliver a message.  My memory fails on that point.

The old soldier had gladly accepted the challenge as a teenager.  It was early in the war.  He took the pass (as I recall for a few days), and upon arriving at his home contacted the best forger that he could find, who made him a duplicate pass for a future date.  When he returned to the camp he hid the duplicate pass.  A couple of weeks later, he escaped on the duplicate and returned to his home. 

He said that there was a factory in the town that made the "Army .45".  I presumed that the meant the Polish Radom pistol, which is a Browning derived pistol made in Poland before and during WWII.   They are well thought of, but most were made in 9mm, with only a few in .45 and .22.   Our young resistance fighter said that now that he was on the run, he needed a pistol and he needed documents.


Polish Radom VIS pistol  The Browning derivation is obvious

He entered the factory and went along the line, picking up a part at every station.  After he left the factory, he assembled the pistol.  This part of his story is partly verified in this article about the Radom VIS.   As the story was told to me in 1986, when the Internet was just a collection of email addresses, (I had a connection for my work at the Tropical Test Center) I consider this Internet source to offer some validation.  Quite a number of these pistols were used in the uprising of the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto.

He went to the local collaborator who worked with the Germans.   He showed him the pistol and told him that he needed identification documents.   Only a German officer could authorize the documents, so he told the collaborator to tell the officer that he was a cousin from the country who needed to be documented so that he could find work.   He told the collaborator that if anything went wrong, the pistol would be used on the collaborator first.

They went to the German officer and the collaborator tried to tell the story, but his German was not nearly as good as the young resistance fighter.   He told the officer the story, in the native dialect of the officer.   The officer signed the request for the identification, then told the collaborator:  "You ought to consider your cousin as an example.   He really knows how to speak German!"

 He managed to survive the war and joined the U.S. Army afterward.   When I met him, he had been retired for a number of years.  In his early 60's, he was lean and sharp.

©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; poland; survival; wwii
There were other fascinating stories as well.
1 posted on 06/03/2014 4:25:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Reminiscent of “Unintended Consequences”, is it not?


2 posted on 06/03/2014 4:53:01 AM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: marktwain

I liked the story, always like the stories of the underdogs winning at least a moral victory.
Wonder if there are many first hand stories of people still alive after Israel fought to become free. They had underground factories to produce weapons.
With the skills many Americans have and machinery to use those skills, I think it will be hard to stop the production of just about any type of weapon. Where there is a will there is a way.


3 posted on 06/03/2014 4:55:21 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: marktwain

Unlike a lot of pre WWII countries we have the opportunity not to have to steal parts to make a useable firearm.

If one has not already brought one or more good forearms to use in a time of need.

The time to do so is now.

Even better several then do not keep them all in one place.

One or two firearms with ammo stored in another location could be a real life saver.


4 posted on 06/03/2014 5:13:22 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Old Cold War joke:

An East German working in a factory that made parts for baby carriages decided to smuggle enough parts home to assemble one for his two infant children.

His coworker asked him, “How’s that baby carriage coming along?”

He replied, “It’s very strange. I’ve got all the parts, but no matter how I start out assembling it, it comes out a machine gun!”


5 posted on 06/03/2014 5:53:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: spankalib

As I started reading it, “Unintended Consequences” was my first thought.

I wish more folks were familiar with the book and its “philosophies”.


6 posted on 06/03/2014 9:32:55 AM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: spankalib

“Reminiscent of “Unintended Consequences”, is it not?”

Yes, though I heard it long before John Ross wrote his novel. (Brag) I have a signed first edition!

I suspect that John heard or read of other WWII stories on his own. Reality is often more interesting than fiction.


7 posted on 06/03/2014 11:48:37 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Do you know if he’s working on a follow-up/PartII?

Signed first edition?
That’s cool!


8 posted on 06/03/2014 12:26:24 PM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: spankalib

Not that I know. He has had some health problems.

I think we have a better chance of getting another novel from our very own Travis McGee (Matt Bracken).


9 posted on 06/03/2014 12:29:39 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Sad about that.
I got all Matt’s stuff - gobble it down :))


10 posted on 06/04/2014 6:36:37 AM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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