Posted on 03/24/2014 8:51:13 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
I’ve got to believe that Nifster is some CDC or big pharma troll as he seems way too up on all the arguments and way too abusive to not have some sort of connection to them. Would not be surprised in any case.
Majored in Biochemistry, Medical Advisory Board for state of Florida-sports medicine, current Emergency Medicine Board Certified physician that currently is an associate professor at a medical school....
your qualifications in Electrical Engineering may be impecable but that in no way qualifies in medicine for you to even clean a pile of feces out of a bed pan. Reproducible double blind studies are the back bone of studies in medicine. The faux science of vaccine autism rank up there with the DDT scam that has killed millions in Africa.
I personally have a distaste for anything from our federal government since they have the market on pathologic lying but vaccines save lives and those that will not give them to their children, deserve to be given the Darwin award that they will rightfully earn.
They are referenced here: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/24/new-evidence-refutes-fraud-findings-in-dr-wakefield-case.aspx
Oh my goodness you really are deep in the weeds.This guy is quoting microbiologists not MDs or epidemiologists....
Do some real research would you
Let’s start with the quackery of your source http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html
Then let’s examine ALL of the studies from around the world that REFUTE the so called connection to autism and vaccination
Pick one or all and read them.
“The experience with pertussis in the 1970s was also based on anecdotal case reports linking pertussis vaccination with infant brain damage.9 Again a temporal link between a vaccine and a devastating childhood condition whose natural peak onset was at the very time when most children received that vaccine was misinterpreted as a causal relation. A national study eventually showed that, while there was a temporal association with encephalopathy, any risk of lasting damage was so rare as to be unquantifiable.10 But the initial report, then as now, attracted media attention; parental and professional anxiety soared; and national immunisation rates fell from 80% to 30%. The number of susceptible children rose, and in the 12 years after 1976 three major pertussis epidemics accounted nationally for over 300000 notifications and at least 70 deaths. The suffering of families experiencing long miserable illnesses was considerable, and in some cases long term damage ensued. Some parents came to believe that an immunisation they had approved had damaged their child.
Here is the citation location “http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1112717/";
I remember when the anti vaccine folks in Britain convinced people to not take the pertussis vaccine.... the cases were devastating.
You would not allow someone to tell you they can generate electricity out of nothing why or why will you allow yourself to be fed nonsense and conclude that it is true?
Indeed, so tell me if vaccines are so safe then why are the companies that produce it not liable for any damage? And where are all those double blind studies that show what the cause of autism is? Or how about the good Dr Joseph Biederman who got $700,000 from Johnson and Johnson for promoting drugging our kids with the equivalent of cocaine and even after he got caught is still a “highly respected” researcher?
What I’ve found is that most of what current medical education is, is just how to “push” the latest drugs out to an unsuspecting population. And Pediatrics is probably the worst of the bunch, they get paid for every shot they stick in a kid so for the most part they are not interested in stopping that gravy train and so down play any adverse reactions and certainly don’t report them. The medical community has turned into one big scam for the most part designed to separate money from people and nothing more. Sure if you’ve got a broken bone or some such then they’re at least good at that but from what I’ve seen most of it is not “science” but junk science designed to promote whatever the big pharmacy companies are pushing and nothing more.
Please learn to read before accusing others of making ignorant comments. I MADE NO CONCLUSIONS, I simply reported facts, anything else you thought you read exists only in your own imagination. Must I add a disclaimer to keep people like you from drawing unwarranted conclusions and making ignorant comments?
Hey, what’s great about this country is free choice. Don’t get your offspring vaccinated and please avoid doctors. As long as people fight, drink, cram stuff in places where they weren’t designed, smoke snort and sniff everything under God’s sky... I’m going to be a busy doctor.
Just to let you in on a secret, it’s ALL A SCAM.
Everybody is going to die...... Everybody.
We crucified the last guy that tried to live forever. So far it’s been an effective deferent.
Yay! Another ‘it’s the vaccines’ fault’ post!
I really wish I had a dollar for every time I saw that claim...it would keep my son in weighted blankets and chewing fidgets for life. (Mom of a 6-year-old autistic son)
“Hey, what’s great about this country is free choice.”
Ah, but it’s not a free choice, most states will not let your kid into any school (even private) without proof that he’s been put through the immune system ringer. Because of some such nonsense about “endangering the herd” which if vaccines really worked would not be the case.
In any case enjoy working for the government as I have no doubt that you’ll be doing just that. And given your attitude I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.
And by the way that guy that was crucified IS still alive and all that believe in Him WILL live forever.
As an aside, go to any children’s graveyard, you’ll start to see a pattern for the really young ones buried there that happens to fall right on the vaccination schedule.
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How many children’s graveyards have you studied the way you note above? what were the results? Where were the results published, as I assume you did exactly what you specify above, correlate the death’s to the vaccine schedule.
What was the total population size you studied?
Do you study the human immune system extensively in a master’s program for electrical engineering these days?
You guys with the science fetish crack me up, I’ve found that most of these studies are completely worthless as they were set up to prove whatever it was they wanted proven and really are meaningless and totally worthless. As a case in point:
http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763
seems that even the vaunted “peer reviewed” paper chase is not what it seems any more.
I can understand why you’ve got your panties in a bunch though as if people wake up to this scam you’ll be without a job. It all boils down to that in the medical industry, money and really nothing more than that which is why I distrust it so much.
like I said, if your kid gets polio, whooping cough, or exposes one of your pregnant relatives with rubella.... it's a Darwin award to your family. It's just kinda irritating to "the herd" if your family exposes some unsuspecting pregnant woman with rubella...but hey that's not your problem. They should do something about rubella to not affect unborn babies... oh YEAH.. they have a vaccine.
In any case enjoy working for the government as I have no doubt that you’ll be doing just that. And given your attitude I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.
uh, I have news again for you fella....we already "work" for the govenment. Try not paying your taxes for awhile. These guys will show up at your door, burn your house down, kill your family and bulldoze it if you think you're not working for the govenment. Maybe even shoot your dog, shoot your son and wife and try to stick you in prison.
Yep, I know the guy they crucified is alive and well. He's a funny guy and is smiling at us arguing about crap that isn't even important.
“uh, I have news again for you fella....we already “work” for the govenment. Try not paying your taxes for awhile. These guys will show up at your door, burn your house down, kill your family and bulldoze it if you think you’re not working for the govenment. Maybe even shoot your dog, shoot your son and wife and try to stick you in prison.”
Interesting that when all else fails you guys always fall back on these kinds of threats. Just kind of out of left field here but why do you think that I don’t pay my taxes?
Well in any case you’ve succeeded in exposing yourself as the jackbooted thug that you are. I’m sure that your excuse will be that you were “just following orders” when before the judgement seat but we’ll see.
I’ve found that most of these studies are completely worthless as they were set up to prove whatever it was they wanted proven and really are meaningless and totally worthless.
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Most of what studies? How many have you reviewed out of what sized population?
I’m not a science guy. Not a big fan of big pharma. I have 2 kids who coach/teach in private schools and they believe that 75% of the kids are on ADHD medicine. That seems crazy to me.
I’m a manager in corporate setting. No connection to the sciences at all.
However, you stated categorically that one could learn something from wandering children’s graveyards and correlating their deaths to the vaccine schedule.
I simply asked what your particular results were from doing so. It’s abundantly clear that you have never done so and are relying on someone else’s research, or made it up out of whole cloth.
I feel sorry for the kids that the reality star Kristin Cavallari has or will have. Anyone listening to her or others that medicine that has saved countless lives is now bad for you should really have their kids taken away from them for child endangerment.
I wonder what the number was when I was born (1958) would have been?
“I simply asked what your particular results were from doing so. It’s abundantly clear that you have never done so and are relying on someone else’s research, or made it up out of whole cloth.”
It is my personal observation while visiting my son’s grave. You will see a lot of deaths listed as SIDS that really are vaccine related.
As far as studies, I’ve found them worse than useless as they give the general population the impression that real science is going on in the medical community when for the most part that is the furthest thing from the truth. It’s like any human endeavor, if there is a profit to be had from it the results will match the bias of the researcher as he stands to profit from said study.
“... should really have their kids taken away from them for child endangerment.”
Really? What happened to freedom on FR or have the Statist Thugs completely taken over? Maybe your kids should be taken away from you as you obviously are not a fit parent since you hang out at FR. Get a life and find something better to do than looking for ways to ruin other peoples lives.
You reported two teen aged boys who do not talk. You blamed vaccinations. You do not tell us the vaccine or the age of the boys when this happened. You know nothing about this family’s home life. You gave an anecdote not a fact.
Apparently you lack reading comprehension as well
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