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Is There Something Wrong With The Term: "War Between the States?"
Old Virginia Blog ^ | 01-06-2014 | Richard G. Williams, Jr.

Posted on 01/11/2014 11:16:07 AM PST by Davy Buck

However if one truly wants to make such a big deal out of what we call the armed conflict which occurred in America from 1861 to 1865 , and if its historical accuracy and honesty that one truly seeks, then I think Douglas Southall Freeman is, perhaps, the truest to historical accuracy in coining the proper term . . .

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: academia; civilwar; confederacy; dixie; kkk; militaryhistory; southernaggression; whitesupremacists
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To: Davy Buck

How about “The War Against State’s Rights”.


21 posted on 01/11/2014 11:39:18 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Pollster1
I've always been partial to "The Late Unpleasantness"

So much so that I think we should use it for the next one as well.

22 posted on 01/11/2014 11:40:11 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Vaquero
Fort Sumter could have been eventually negotiated, but the Rebs decided to start the war.

"The Rebs decided to start a war", and President Buchanan, the second worst occupant of our White House in America's history, mishandled the situation. Both sides handled it badly.

23 posted on 01/11/2014 11:40:47 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: stinkerpot65
So, are you saying that buying and selling human beings like cattle is bad? Who knew?

Definitely not the CSA losers.

Hyuk hyuk hyuk!

;)

24 posted on 01/11/2014 11:41:15 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Davy Buck

Nothing is wrong in calling it “The war between the states.” It is simply a fact that most of us call it the Civil War.


25 posted on 01/11/2014 11:43:19 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: atomic_dog
I've always been partial to "The Late Unpleasantness". So much so that I think we should use it for the next one as well.

I hope we're not under time pressure to choose a name for the next unpleasantness, but that decision is in the hands of one of the most evil, anti-American thugs in our country's history. I will continue praying for peace, but "if you wish for peace, prepare for war".

26 posted on 01/11/2014 11:44:01 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
I enjoy using an older title: “War of Northern Aggression”.

When we first arrived here in GreenAcres (rural NWGA) I was commenting to someone about living in an area rich with Civil War history (specifically, the taking of "The General"). Someone gently said to me, in a wonderful southern drawl, "Son, you need to understand that we don't call it the 'Civil War' here. In these parts it's known as 'The War of Northern Aggression'".

Still puts a smile on my face to remember that encounter.

27 posted on 01/11/2014 11:44:24 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: Bulwyf

I disagree. By denying Southerners the right to secede from a union of their own making they became slaves...demonstrating the hypocrisy of all those who desperately want the northern cause and their aggression to somehow be morally superior to the Southern cause. You simply cannot be simultaneously for and against slavery, even if one is bondage and the other is by denial of self governance...both eliminate self determination.

It’s the one fact Southernphobes and Lincoln lovers can neither refute nor acknowledge, because it destroys their world view and holier than thou self image. To admit the truth is to admit that they support the slave master and that they actually should loath themselves. Not going to happen.


28 posted on 01/11/2014 11:49:05 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Davy Buck
The most accurate name I have heard to date is the War of Secession.
29 posted on 01/11/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Pollster1
I enjoy using an older title: “War of Northern Aggression”.

That's not uncommon, but one that I've never heard (though it would be more accurate) is the War for Federal Supremacy


The Constitution gave very specific and limited authority to the federal government, and any sane reading of the Constitution would inform you that the modern thought federal law trumps state law is a lie: only federal law pursuant to the Constitution is superior, anything not so pursuant is null and void (see the last third of Maybury v. Madison for an excellent logical/legal proof.)

Since the War for Federal Supremacy, the federal government has usurped a lot of powers that are rightly those of the several states — this usurpation has been quickly growing in the very recent years, but the trend for greater and greater usurpation is illustrated very well with prohibition and the war on drugs: in the former there was a Constitutional amendment, in the latter no such amendment exists. (The difficulty of the acceptance of each indicates the implicit authority accepted to enact the laws. Prohibition was at least following the letter of the the law that is the Constitution, the War on Drugs does not even need that form followed to be held as legitimate.) Now we have reached the point where the federal government is telling us we must engage in commerce.

30 posted on 01/11/2014 11:52:36 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

That’s a lot of words to describe what the war was. That war was about making Washington, DC the central power of it all.


31 posted on 01/11/2014 11:53:45 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Vaquero
You didn’t see Castro attack Gitmo after he took over power.

If Gitmo had been under French rule instead of US rule, Castro would have attacked.

32 posted on 01/11/2014 11:54:32 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

> The most accurate name I have heard to date is the War of Secession.

I just coined “The War for Federal Supremacy” — does that qualify as more accurate? (See post 30)


33 posted on 01/11/2014 11:55:39 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Prov1322
Someone gently said to me, in a wonderful southern drawl, "Son, you need to understand that we don't call it the 'Civil War' here. In these parts it's known as 'The War of Northern Aggression'".

And 'Waw-uh' is a two-syllable word.

34 posted on 01/11/2014 11:56:09 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: rockrr
Sounds like there may be something a little wrong with our blogger Dick Williams. He seems to have it in for Kevin Levin. Is it perhaps anti-rhymism?

I don't have a problem with "The War Between the States." It's better than the polemical versions you find out there, but it does have just a hint of an old fashioned, eccentric feel to it.

I notice many of the instances Williams finds for TWBTS, also use "The Civil War." It sounds like they just throw in TWBTS to keep from saying "Civil War" over and over again.

35 posted on 01/11/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by x
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To: OneWingedShark
It does, although we seem to still be fighting it.

Forget, hell!

36 posted on 01/11/2014 11:57:37 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Lee'sGhost
"I vote all the South haters stay in the blue states where they are with people more their ilk."

All the "south haters" They should all stay in Florida and Virginia?

37 posted on 01/11/2014 12:00:08 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Davy Buck

My dear southern grandmother referred to that time as “The Great Unpleasantness”.


38 posted on 01/11/2014 12:01:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: zeestephen

No intelligent person on the planet would argue that you cannot unjoin a club that you voluntarily joined. Just liberals and Lincoln lovers.


39 posted on 01/11/2014 12:01:37 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Wrong side won and that’s my Canadian opinion.


40 posted on 01/11/2014 12:02:33 PM PST by Bulwyf
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