Posted on 12/12/2013 10:11:40 AM PST by jazusamo
“Agreed, and you can bet any ELR buyers will more than likely be in the 1% category.”
Out here in Californicating land, probably 99.5% of the 1% are solid voters for the rats.
I see Teslas almost daily here in the Bay Area. It’s a beautiful car, but I really wish they’d put a V8 in it...
Bingo: “For that matter, the Volt is overpriced. $40K for a compact car? Really?”
If it was a good buy, GMC couldn’t make enough of them.
It is time to say Good Bye, Volt! Don’t let the garage door hit you in your exhaust pipe as you head for the graveyard filled with autos, no one wanted to buy.
Yeah. The only GM vehicle I’d pay that kind of money for would be a used Corvette. And the only car that small I’d pay that much for new had better have one of those blue and white propellor badges on the nose.
“The only GM vehicle I’d pay that kind of money for would be a used Corvette. And the only car that small I’d pay that much for new had better have one of those blue and white propellor badges on the nose.
Same here.
My wife and I can’t figure out how people fit their life styles into these small vehicles.
Doesn’t matter General Motors won’t survive. Inefficient management structure will see to thatl
I sure wouldn’t disagree with you. Check my post previous post.
I've seen a number of them (not many) and play softball with a retiree who owns one. For his purposes, he loves it....
With that being said, electric cars will eventually increase in popularity and this is the automaker's first venture into that area of the industry. So of course it is expensive and of course there were limited numbers produced and of course there were limited numbers purchased since the public is currently not receptive to expensive electric cars.
I don't consider that a failure at all. In fact, with all the problems Tesla has been thru, had it not been their own receipt of a $465 million bailout for their single product, they would likely be either out of business or just selling their battery packs.
The writer is unfairly comparing GM's first attempt at electric cars to a singular vision company that has been in the industry for a number of years now.......
As as a side note, I've never seen a Tesla.............
Compared to what?
Was she handpicked by a car czar too?
/sarc
and GM should also pay the same taxes other car companies pay too
Check my post #27, Ackerson may have had a hand in her being picked.
bump
this administration makes parody come true
I don't consider that a failure at all.
From a business perspective, the Volt has been a failure at GM. They have lost money on it. If you are implying that they will parlay this failure into success in a growing market, then you are presuming that their simple presence in the market is their success. While there are a great many examples of business and product failures being credited with eventual successes, GM's prospects are not positive. GM does not have a strong record of learning lessons (that I am aware of). This story is about how GM seems to be going in the wrong direction with what they learned from the design, production and sales of their flagship product in the electric car market.
Currently there is not a very large market for electric cars. But it is undoubtedly growing and can be expected to do so. I don't know what % of that very small market GM has cornered. But there are both more economical products, more stylish products and higher performing products out there that are far outselling the Volt. The volt doesn't fill a demand or fit a niche. You have defined the success of the volt by it being their first venture into that area of the industry. This electric Caddy will be their second. Does that still make the Volt a success in your mind? Maybe only time will tell.
Compared to the history of the Tesla (which I thought I had made clear) in it's first several years into electric cars, yes, an overwhelming success......
Compared to other cars of similar size and design. Compared to hybrids it’s better in all ways but cost.
Like I said, as far as cars go, it’s good.
Its msrp is 35k. You can usually get on for 35k though. With the tax credit it’s about the same as comparable hybrids.
Still a bit high but it frees up the fuel budget and it’s associated volatility.
I meant 33k with dealer and gm incentives.
The real question is whether the buyer will be on the hook with the IRS for the $7,500 like they were when they were when they took 'Ca$h for Clunkers'...
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