Posted on 11/21/2013 8:08:57 AM PST by backwoods-engineer
Man, this kind of stuff gets my hillbilly back up.
It burns me up to see these city folk acting like sheep, when armed policemen pull them over, under color of law, and — Lord have mercy! — 'ask' them for BLOOD and TISSUE SAMPLES!
The Supreme Court, may the Lord judge them ever so harshly, has said that police checkpoints looking for drunk drivers are Constitutional (Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz), but this is something new: these are Fed contractors, asking for BLOOD AND DNA after armed deputies stop citizens under color of law.
And then say, after citizens are held by gun-toting policemen, that it was all "Voluntary"? EVIL.
And in Forth Worth, Texas of all places!
On Friday afternoon, Kim Cope was driving along Beach Street in North Fort Worth on her lunch break when she was stopped at a police roadblock. After being ushered into a nearby parking lot, she was given a menu of options.
"They were asking for cheek swabs," she told NBC 5. "They would give $10 for that. Also, if you let them take your blood, they would pay you $50 for that." ...
But Cobb wasn't stopped at a "sobriety checkpoint." She was merely asked if she cared to participate in the 2013 National Roadside Survey of Alcohol and Drugged Driving, an occasional study conducted by the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. It's completely voluntary, though the blockage of a major street police officers (Fort Worth PD says they were off-duty) tends to give the opposite impression.
Did you read that? (Presumably armed) off-duty police officers! No doubt paid by the Fed Quislings who run this study.
At least the Forth Worth cops apologized, like that will make it all better:
...on Tuesday [Nov 19, 2013] police spokesman Sgt. Kelly Peel said that the department's Traffic Division coordinated with the NHTSA on the use of off-duty officers after the agency asked for help with the survey.
"We are reviewing the actions of all police personnel involved to ensure that FWPD policies and procedures were followed," he said. "We apologize if any of our drivers and citizens were offended or inconvenienced by the NHTSA National Roadside Survey."
Yeah. 'Apologize.' That makes it all better that you violated them like whores.
There's more at the link:
NBC DFW confirmed that the survey was done by a government contractor, the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, which is based in Calverton, Md.
Nice. Right up there next to Mordor-on-the-Potomac. PIRE, like pyre, something to have a Viking funeral for America on.
A company spokeswoman referred questions to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. An agency spokeswoman sent an email confirming the government is conducting the surveys in 30 cities across the country in an effort to reduce impaired-driving accidents.
30 CITIES? Hit Google... Yep, I find out: it also happened in my adopted home of Alabama, in two of the northern counties, St. Clair and Bibb County, this past June!
(Emphasis mine, Ol' Backwoods)
PELL CITY, Alabama -- It was a little bit after midnight, early Saturday morning, when Erika Skeivelas said she saw the flashing lights.
Her 8-year-old daughter, sitting next to her, thought it might be a wreck. Skeivelas, 32, said she was traveling on Alabama 34... [and she saw] two St. Clair County deputies cars, with flashing lights, stopping traffic on the highway.
The state motto of "We Dare Defend Our Rights" is apparently null and void for these oath-breaking deputies.
She was then asked to be part of what she was told would be a brief roadside survey. What she participated in was a national survey looking at blood alcohol and drug levels of drivers.
Skeivelas said she didn't think anything about taking part, because she hadn't been drinking. However, she said she didn't think it was clear the survey wasn't mandatory. ...
"As a citizen, I think at the end of the day in a way, it was somewhat entrapment," she said. "I don't think it felt all that voluntary. I mean, why didn't they ask people at Wal-Mart at 2 in the afternoon? What were they going to do if the deputies could clearly smell alcohol on somebody after midnight, because you know people have been drinking and are out on the road?"
Alabamians are understandably outraged:
Readers overwhelmingly said they would not voluntarily submit blood and DNA samples to a government study as part of a roadblock, according to the results of an AL.com poll. ...
Of 2,016 votes cast as of 8 a.m. this morning, 80 percent said they would not give samples as part of a voluntary test, with 8.4 percent saying they would. Only less than 3 percent said they might consider it if the money was good, while 8.6 percent said they would rather not answer since "they might be watching.
The Feds, of course, are acting like it's all no big deal. Why, it's just a voluntary roadblock!
Jose Ucles, a spokesman for the National Traffic Highway Safety Administration, said the survey did not collect DNA ... "Participation is voluntary," Ucles said. "All data is anonymous."
In the same article, St. Clair county officials deny their police funds were used, and then there's this (emphasis mine, Ol' Backwoods):
The survey used deputies to stop traffic, he said, for traffic safety.
"If you're doing roadblocks and asking people to stop, you have to have the deputies there to make sure everything is safe," he said. "It's not about detaining anybody, because the survey is voluntary and anonymous.
It's about making sure the traffic is safe in that area." Oh, REALLY? Armed deputies are there just to "make sure everything is safe"?
Here's my answer to that:
18 USC § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
What has happened to our country? Does NOBODY know what their rights are anymore? Does nobody understand they have the right to travel freely with a state (U.S. v. Wheeler)? That they have the right to leave police presence unless they are being detained? Do they not know that they have the right to hear the reasonably articulated suspicion that is causing their detention (Terry v. Ohio) ?
Oh, and by the way, here is the punk taking Soros money who did this:
"We had an wonderful experience in Alabama," said John Lacey with the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, the group coordinating the study for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. "The public was very receptive, and it was all very pleasant, which is not always the case. It's ironic that this kind of reaction has happened."
It's only ironic to a Federal-Reserve-Note-swiving statist putz like you, Lacey! Being from prison state Maryland and paid by Mordor-on-the-Potomac, you can't fathom why southern folks would object to this. Why, after all, it's just a "voluntary, anonymous" study, right?
From Friday through early Sunday morning, off-duty deputies in the two counties stopped traffic in several locations, asking motorists to participate in what organizers called a voluntary, anonymous study. ...
However, the presence of deputies, the lateness of the hour, and reports from social media have prompted questions about the purpose of the study. Yesterday, Gov. Robert Bentley and Attorney General Luther Strange promised to look into the matter.
Yeah, nothing much came of that, apparently. I can't find anything newer than this article, or June 11, 2013 story:
State Attorney General Luther Strange said he learned about the activities from news stories. “I am shocked. This is very troubling and I intend to get to the bottom of it,” Strange said in a statement.
Yeah, that's... Strange.
And no further word from Alabama Secretary of Law Enforcement and Homeland Security Director Spencer Collier, who was supposed to "look into this". Probably got paid off by the Feds to keep it out of the media.
What do y'all think?
What STATE law allows you to stop me? What are the probable cause reasons you stopped me for?
“I will not willingly comply, I will not give you permission, and I will sue in State and Federal court to assert my rights and due damages.”
A breathalyzer is all that is needed to detect over/under legal alcohol and/or screening for further tests; saliva and blood samples are for DNA database gathering, period.
I have a leather products “Maker’s Stamp” that looks much like this. Nice company out west makes them - but pricey...
I think all Americans should be trained to deal legally with these misuses of authority by government employees by not unknowingly abdicating their Constitutional rights.
Additionally, they should also back up their awareness by always being an informed juror and litigant.
How do I qualify for one of those? I am an undocumented journalist, ya know...
I think they are taking these blood samples and DNA swabs to do tests on with some new virus.
They want to find out if it will be effective on everyone’s blood, and need to also produce an antidote for the ruling elite.
Just kidding. They really are concerned with our health and well-being, and only want to take these samples to find out how many people are under the influence because getting that ‘number’ will immediately solve the problem. And we all know that politicians don’t lie, and that they have always solved all the other problems they promised to solve.
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You tell ‘em Gaffer. I too am getting tired of this Fed intrusion.
Sarge, you ‘qualify’ by getting on humblegunner’s good side! LOL!
BINGO! The rest of your post was right on, too.
So, that kind of stuff is illegal under Federal code (that I cited in the blog post).
When are we citizens going to start enforcing it?
You know what? With just a little proof, I am ready to believe anything about these statists at this point. After what they have done to our freedom, they will do a lot of things people can't imagine.
Really? How? They are still being detained by police under color of law. Did you read the article? See the video? The woman TRIED to leave. They did not let her.
Doesn't matter if they paid them. Still deprivation of rights under color of law.
If the activity is clearly defined as voluntary it seems to me to become a commercial activity. The participant is selling something to the government. I would personally be very careful though. The Feds have proven themselves to be so trustworthy.
And therein lies the problem. The public schools are NOT teaching Constitutional Rights. Their demon-spawn Common Core Curriculum teaches stuff like this:
"The commands of government officials must be obeyed by all."
"The wants of an individual are less important than the well-being of the nation."
Like Jackie Gleason's character in "Smokey and the Bandit" said, "Nothing but pure, old-fashioned Communism."
Ran into a roadblock a mile from my house, at night, they had 2 cars pulled over to the side of the road, the cop asked for my ID, and told I don’t think I have to give it and that this was the first roadblock I had seen in 30 years. He said it is legal and only a safety check. I said, yeah,sure, it’s a DUI check and you know it. I said I’ll show you my drivers lic. just because I aint got time for a bunch of bs. These were county cops and they know who I am and asked who sent you out to do this? He said the feds. Wished me a good night. The feds paid 3.2 million to build our new courthouse and more for new cop cars and trucks. They call the shots in our little town now.
“ushered into a nearby parking lot”
That is illegal sequestration and the offending officers need to go to prison.
As I said before, "Government schools are child abuse".
“A breathalyzer is all that is needed to detect over/under legal alcohol and/or screening for further tests;”
You are accepting more of the Gubment premise than I do.
Random breathalyzer roadblocks are clearly counter to the spirit of the 4th amendment and clearly the 5th amendment even though SCOTUS has given the practice cover (may they forever rot in hell).
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