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Expert: “What People Have Got to Know is That They’re On Their Own, Literally…”
SHTF Plan ^ | 10/27/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 10/27/2013 4:18:35 PM PDT by Kartographer

Over coming weeks millions of Americans will be tuning in to NatGeo’s new American Blackout film about surviving in a post-power grid collapse environment that lacks electricity, fresh water and the normal flow of commerce.

For most it will be nothing more than standard evening entertainment, but what if such an event turns out to be a future American reality?

Such a scenario may seem improbable, but just in the last several years we’ve seen it play out time and again all over the world, albeit in situations limited in time and scope. Hurricane Katrina and over 50,000 people stranded at the New Orleans Super Dome with no water, Hurricane Sandy and starving individuals rumaging through garbage cans to find a morsel of food, and various other natural and man-made disasters are an eye-opening testament to what happens when the improbable becomes reality.

Just a few weeks ago we saw what the panicked hive mentality can lead to when thousands of people stormed Walmart grocery stores following a breakdown in the Electronic Benefit Transfer system for food assistance.

We’ve become so dependent on others – namely our governments – to assist us when crisis strikes, that this “learned helplessness” in our society has left people in major cities totally unprepared to cope with disasters.

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As pointed out in the article the bigger the crisis the less help you can expect.

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

1 posted on 10/27/2013 4:18:35 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers PING!!


2 posted on 10/27/2013 4:19:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

“As pointed out in the article the bigger the crisis the less help you can expect.”

Been through one ‘cane of size in my younger days. When the chips are somewhat down, you can rely on the following people and in this order:

1. Your family and yourself.
2. Your neighbors.
3. Your friends.
Distant 4th...local government.

The relative position of number 2 was the only surprise.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 4:24:12 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Kartographer

America is moving into “The Walking Dead” territory now.


4 posted on 10/27/2013 4:25:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“America is moving into “The Walking Dead” territory now.”

It is. Time to get your tribe together.


5 posted on 10/27/2013 4:26:07 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

All I have left to buy is a bow and some arrows. I’ve got most of the other stuff.


6 posted on 10/27/2013 4:40:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: Kartographer

Yep. We don’t plan to go within miles of a Walmart distribution center which is likely where the govt will set up. It will be dangerous, germy and way too close to the stasi storm troopers who will be providing security. God only knows what you will have to agree to to get food and water. Might be time to take the chip and turn in guns for food or get sent to the work gang. None of which is in our game plan.


7 posted on 10/27/2013 4:43:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer
Having been through a flood, forest fires, 9/11, Y2K, Murra building explosion, and ever Tet68 there are few major surprises. I would think it would be a good idea to talk to people in your area about the emergencies that they have been though and especially what has happened in your area or where you expect to stay. These articles are good in but you must tailor them for your circumstances.
8 posted on 10/27/2013 4:52:10 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Georgia Girl 2; Marcella; B4Ranch; JRandomFreeper; yorkiemom; greeneyes; ...
Concidering what we have seen from the 'Zombie Class' recently I expect I will be soon stop using my favor prep quote:

Quark: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (TV Series) The Siege of AR-558 (1998)

And I will start using this one:


Simon: "What happens if they board us?"

Zoë: "If they take the ship they will rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins in to their clothing, and if we're very, very lucky, they’ll do it in that order."
From the TV Show Firefly

9 posted on 10/27/2013 4:59:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I can stand on my own, and feed immediate family and neighbors, and provide medical assistance. Share skill sets, and get everybody back on their feet. You would think any government would appreciate that. Ours would not. I’m worried about forced relocations, and the government coming to my door to seize what’s legally mine, under the rubric of exigent circumstances or martial law.


10 posted on 10/27/2013 5:04:40 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Kartographer

Let me do an inventory here. I’ve got about a thousand gallons of oil that can quickly be turned into diesel, 45 full cords of split wood that can last for years, about a year’s worth of flour, cornmeal, and canned vegetables, a couple of generators, a dependable well, plenty of elk to eat, and 3/4 acre of garden property, great neighbors, a river near by for fishing, and we are a good ways out any town. I figure we should be able to last a little while without the government.


11 posted on 10/27/2013 5:11:22 PM PDT by pallis
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To: PowderMonkey
I’m worried about forced relocations, and the government coming to my door to seize what’s legally mine, under the rubric of exigent circumstances or martial law.

If you do the math with an eye to logistics... the government doesn't have enough bodies to do that. It might work in an unarmed country, but it didn't work in Afghanistan, in spite of the billions the government spent, and it won't work here.

/johnny

12 posted on 10/27/2013 5:12:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

My honest assessment is that most people will wait for the govt to save them right up until the moment they realize the govt won’t save them. By that time they will be too weak from hunger to travel on foot the 95 miles up into the mountains where we will be. Tens of thousands of people will starve quietly in their homes or die from the typhoid, dysentary etc that will start up 2 weeks after the garbage trucks stop coming and the sewers are backing up. No running water for most. If you have well and septic it will be easier. Most don’t.

Since most people have not had the good sense to buy a Berkey water filter or just as good the water filter kit at www.internetprepper.com for $29.00 they will be drinking from gutter runoff, creeks, streams the river etc and no power to boil it. More people will die from disease than starvation and violence.

By the way that set of filters comes with a spigot and instructions on how to install it using two 5 gallon food grade buckets from Lowes. Mr. GG2 has made one for everybody in the family as well as a rocket stove for everyone. We have one as a backup to our Berkey. His sister has hers sitting on the countertop of their home. They filter all their water now as do we.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 5:46:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

For all those that had to cut back on their cable bill, or did so voluntarily, and do not have “NatGeo” in their listings of available channels, just go to YouTube, and dig up all the Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Rita, and Hurricane George videos you can. Download them, if you are set up for all of that gigabyte transfer to come.

I am a Katrina survivor. NO power, too much water of the wrong kind, too many folks wandering about, yes, the National Guard arresting homeowners who had legal weapons, and the beat goes on.

I am alive long enough to remember what one little ol’ fricaseed squairrel did to the ENTIRE EASTERN SEABOARD in the ‘60’s, (which included some military aerial defense sites, too). That took a few days to get straightened out. Look at how much we are interconnected today!

The Obama Administration is the opposite of the Bush Administration. Both bad, when considering disasters, both ineffectual, and with the inability this clown has, forget it, get your gear, i.e., B.B.B., “bullets, bandaids, and bread”.

Thereare many, many type of these threads out there. There are as many folks that have elbows, as there are folks that are anuses. “If this happens, I’m gonna come and take all your food!” Surely, a death wish just waiting to be granted.

Get it together. YES, have a plan if you are a family member reading this.

Me? “I’m it”, as they say. My dear darling life companion lives across the bridge, over the river, in the back side of that town. No heirs, siblings, relatives, all gone ahead. So, I know what I have to do, for that “what if, or when” scenario.

Now, do YOU?


14 posted on 10/27/2013 5:49:12 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: FlingWingFlyer
All I have left to buy is a bow and some arrows.

I can't believe how the price of arrows has skyrocketed in the last 5 years.

15 posted on 10/27/2013 5:50:27 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The last time I bought any was about 10 or 12 years ago. I imagine they’re like everything else.


16 posted on 10/27/2013 5:53:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Can we learn to make our own arrows?


17 posted on 10/27/2013 5:57:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I’m thinking crossbow these days.


18 posted on 10/27/2013 5:57:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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It is. Time to get your tribe together.

So that is what we will be reduced too?

The Tribal Society.

No different than the Amazon or American Indians before the Europeans Came (or hell the Germans before the Romans and the Romans Started out as a tribe)

I guess it makes sense, it would be a linked a Family of Families

Rome, Phoenix, Kansas City, Las Vegas, They are just places, metal and stone. Even if they die I guess the Tribe lives on.

When the walls come tumbling down and you loose everything you have, you always have family, and your family always has tribe.

19 posted on 10/27/2013 6:07:02 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; GeronL

See Post #19


20 posted on 10/27/2013 6:07:43 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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