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Missiles for milk: how Russia offered NZ military hardware to settle dairy bill
The Guardian ^ | October 15, 2013 | Oliver Milman

Posted on 10/15/2013 5:47:08 PM PDT by cunning_fish

How do you settle a rather sizeable bill for your milk delivery? If you are a cash-strapped superpower the answer is, apparently, to offer up a pair of fighter jets and a nuclear submarine as payment.

The extraordinary offer was made by Russia to New Zealand in 1993, a new book reveals.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia was struggling to pay the $100m it owed New Zealand for a range of imported dairy products.

In a meeting with Russian officials to thrash out payment terms, Jim Bolger, then New Zealand prime minister, was "absolutely stunned" to be offered the military hardware in lieu of money, according to author Clive Lind.

Lind, who interviewed Bolger and former New Zealand Dairy Board chairman Dryden Spring, who was also present at the meeting, said the offer had been made by Alexander Shokhin, then deputy prime minister of Russia.

"The Russians were trying to come up with lines of credit before Shokhin mentioned there were other funding arrangements," Lind told Guardian Australia. "He pointed out that MiG jets were highly desirable and that they also had surplus tanks to offer. Jim Bolger had to explain that he wasn't in the market for second-hand tanks."

Perhaps most remarkably, Shokhin then offered a nuclear submarine to wipe out Russia's buttery debt. Noting that New Zealand was a staunchly non-nuclear-powered country, he suggested hooking the vessel up to the national grid and using it as a power plant for a coastal city.

"Bolger recalled the reaction he would have got if he returned to a nuclear-free New Zealand and told people that he hadn't got any money for them but had secured a nuclear submarine instead," Lind said. "It simply wasn't going to fly."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; History; Society
KEYWORDS: airforce; communists; debt; default; democrats; guns; navy; newzealand; nwo; russia; shutdown; weaponsmarket

1 posted on 10/15/2013 5:47:08 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

A funny ha ha story until you consider what other hardware was offered to whom ...


2 posted on 10/15/2013 6:00:41 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: cunning_fish

when I was a child in NZ in the 50s there was a saying “guns or butter”

must have been as typo..

it seems it was “guns for butter”


3 posted on 10/15/2013 6:34:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cunning_fish

The photo with the article shows a MIG 15 or a MIG 17, both 1950’s era fighters. Are they saying that the Russians offered New Zealand Korean War technology to pay off their debt?


4 posted on 10/16/2013 7:12:51 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

AFAIK, Mig-29s were offered.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 7:17:03 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
Maybe if Russia throws in a few SS-19s to sweeten the deal?
6 posted on 10/16/2013 10:35:17 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: cunning_fish

From “One, Two, Three”

Peripetchikoff: We have trade agreement with Cuba. They send us cigars, we send them rockets.
C.R. Macnamara: Good thinking.
C.R. MacNamara: You know something? You guys got cheated. This is a pretty crummy cigar.
Peripetchikoff: Do not worry. We send them pretty crummy rockets.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 10:37:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cunning_fish
,,, the NZ Dairy Board (that's what it was called at the time; now it's FONTERRA), took Ladas and Nivas as part payment and sold them through car dealerships.

I heard one time Elton John was offered lots of caviar and mink coats to perform in Russia. I know he's done gigs there so maybe he's set for caviar.

8 posted on 10/30/2013 5:19:42 AM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel

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I knew Commie nations were strapped for hard cash but that kind of ‘deal’ for entertainment leaves even me wordless.


9 posted on 11/24/2013 10:56:19 AM PST by EternalHope13
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