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Lawmakers Replace Language in Bill That Would Have Defined a Journalist
Capitol Confidential ^ | 10/11/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 10/15/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by MichCapCon

Last month, the House reported a bill out of committee that attempted to define who is a journalist. An uproar followed quickly.

"After the committee hearing I realized that I had been going about it in the wrong way," said Rep. Ellen Cogen Lipton, D-Huntington Woods. "I started to realize that we were dealing with a very profound issue that would have serious ramifications. So I went back to the drawing board."

The problematic portion of House Bill 4770 was amended this week and no longer defines who is a journalist. The substitute language was adopted Tuesday, and the bill passed the House Wednesday on a 98-10 vote.

"We understand that the original intention of this bill was good but the first draft had some unintended consequences," said Lisa McGraw, public affairs manager with the Michigan Press Association. "We are pleased that we were able to work with the committee and the sponsor to amend House Bill 4770 in a way that took any definition of journalist or journalism out of the mix and still accomplished the goal of the legislation."

House Bill 4770 is aimed at preventing "ambulance chasers" from exploiting accident report information. In the original version of the bill, lawmakers sought to attack the problem by limiting access to the reports. To do so, the legislation was written so that within 30 days of the accident only journalists would be eligible to obtain the reports. However, that required defining who is a journalist.

Organizations, including the Michigan Press Association and the Michigan Coalition for Open Government expressed serious concerns about the language in the legislation.

In a Sept. 13 Michigan Capitol Confidential article, Patrick Wright, senior legal analyst with the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, suggested that lawmakers take a different approach. Wright said they should consider language directed at preventing the activity they were attempting to stop rather than trying to define who is or isn’t considered a journalist.

Although the new language in House Bill 4770 isn't precisely what Wright broadly suggested, the new language moves in that direction. It reads:

A person may only access the report if the person or organization files a statement indicating that from the time the person or organization is granted access to the report until 30 days after the date the report is filed, the person or organization acknowledges that the person or organization is prohibited from doing either of the following: (A) using the report for any direct solicitation of an individual, vehicle owner, or property owner listed in the report [or] (B) disclosing any personal information contained in the report to a third party for commercial solicitation of an individual, vehicle owner, or property owner listed in the report.

"I'm not sure who I was talking with following the committee hearing, but they asked what problem I was trying to solve with the bill," Rep. Cogen Lipton said. "Then they asked 'why do you have to define who is the news media to do that?' That's when I started to realize we'd been going about it in a completely backward way."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dealbreaker; ellencogenlipton; huntingtonwoods; journalist; michigan

1 posted on 10/15/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

Most journalists these days make about the same as fry cooks at McDonalds. They’ll just take a little cash under the table from the ambulance chasers to pass along those reports.

This law is pointless.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 1:04:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Congress shall make no law...”


3 posted on 10/15/2013 1:07:21 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: MichCapCon

Good for you, Ladies (Lisa and Ellen)!!! Nice to see that you weighed the ramifications of your actions. Now if we can get you to do that at the ballot box in 2014 and 2016 there is hope for America.


4 posted on 10/15/2013 1:08:05 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: MichCapCon
hang hang on . The substitute language was adopted Tuesday, and the bill passed the House Wednesday on a 98-10 vote

How does something pass with 98 votes??

5 posted on 10/15/2013 1:08:16 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Is this the Michigan legislature or Congress?


6 posted on 10/15/2013 1:10:33 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

>> Is this the Michigan legislature or Congress?
Gee, I dunno...

*** Rep. Ellen Cogen Lipton, D-Huntington Woods ***

...yathink “Huntington Woods” is maybe a local area in Michigan? Or is it one of the 57 states?


7 posted on 10/15/2013 1:14:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: GeronL
How does something pass with 98 votes??

This is the Michigan legislature. Not US House of Reps.

8 posted on 10/15/2013 1:14:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: MichCapCon
""After the committee hearing I realized that I had been going about it in the wrong way," "

In other words, I was hoping no one would notice and they did.

This was nothing more than a backdoor attempt to silence everyone here at FreeRepublic (among other places) for expressing your opinion, which could have been called criminal activities after this. (or at least the first step towards it)

9 posted on 10/15/2013 1:16:15 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K; cripplecreek

>> This was nothing more than a backdoor attempt to silence everyone here at FreeRepublic (among other places) for expressing your opinion

Well, let’s see... the Free Republic servers are in California and I’m in Texas.

I don’t think a MICHIGAN law will have a lot of effect on what I post at FR.

Sucks for cripplecreek though. :-)


10 posted on 10/15/2013 1:18:37 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick; GeronL

I just looked her up. She’s a Dem. in the Michigan State House of Representatives. So, this isn’t the U.S. Congress. There are 110 members in the Michigan State House of Representatives - which explains how something passed with only 98 votes.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 1:20:27 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

>> She’s a Dem. in the Michigan State House of Representatives.

No sh oops I mean yes, that’s what I would have guessed, thanks for looking it up. :-)


12 posted on 10/15/2013 1:23:15 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: MichCapCon

That pretty well sums up every liberal/leftist idea. The intent was good, but it was those dadburn unintended consequences that screwed everything up.
13 posted on 10/15/2013 2:55:27 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks MichCapCon.
"After the committee hearing I realized that I had been going about it in the wrong way," said Rep. Ellen Cogen Lipton, D-Huntington Woods.
The way to go about it is, forget about defining journalists, and enact Voter ID and term limits at all levels of gov't.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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