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America’s Second Civil War
Somewhat Reasonable Blog ^ | August 20, 2013 | David Applegate

Posted on 09/08/2013 8:52:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

“War,” said Carl von Clausewitz, “is but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means.”

But as every school child used to know, if A=B, then B=A. So if Clausewitz is correct, then politics is simply war without the killing (except in Egypt, but that’s another topic for another time). What brings Clausewitz to mind today is the current state of U.S. politics, viewed through the prism of something else every school child used to know, Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.

Lincoln’s modern-day successor, President Obama, famously proclaimed after winning the Iowa caucuses in 2008, “We are not a collection of red states and blue states. We are the United States of America.” But like so much of what the president has said these past five years, no matter how well-intended, that simply isn’t true. Rather than being united, the states and the people seem more divided than ever.

On a micro level, of course, all states are purple because voters still (nominally) vote individually, and even in the most lopsided inner-city voting precincts or wards no one party ever gets 100 percent of the vote (although in Milwaukee and Chicago they come close). But on a macro level most states fall into one category or the other, with very few “swing” states left in national elections, as the last two elections have proved.

What most divides the voters of these states?

Again, on a micro level, a voter may cast a ballot for any number of reasons unrelated to actual policy positions: because of the candidate’s name, appearance, or party affiliation; because that’s how members of the voter’s family have always voted; because that’s how the precinct worker who dragged the voter to the polls instructed the voter to vote. But on a macro level it’s fair to say that American voters are largely in one of two camps: those who want more government and those who want less.

Those who want more, who used to call themselves “liberals” but now seem to prefer “progressives,” tend to see “rights” as human wants and needs, favor group “rights” over individual liberties, and follow the guiding light of “fairness,” which dictates that anyone who has more than they do must give some of it to them. In short, progressives favor government coercion, believe in the decision-making ability of “experts,” and willingly surrender individual liberties to the politically powerful in exchange for nominally larger government “benefits.” At bottom, they are statists.

Those who want less government for the most part call themselves “libertarians” or “conservatives,” understand “rights” as freedom from government interference (i.e., coercion by others), favor individual liberties over group rights, and follow the guiding light of incentives, which implicitly understand that human behavior seeks rewards and that a sound system of government therefore rewards rather than penalizes industriousness and individual responsibility. In short, libertarians and conservatives believe in market-based incentives, in the rights and responsibilities of individual citizens to decide most things for themselves, and in limiting government power to what is needed to preserve order. To coin a phrase, they believe in ordered liberty.

A century after the dawn of the Progressive Era in American politics, at the federal level the statist view has largely prevailed. With a cabinet level agency for nearly every human activity, the national government has largely taken over the banking, housing, and education industries (including so-called “private” and “not-for-profit” universities), and until very recently was seen as poised to complete its takeover of the health care industry. Yet some states, and the people, are beginning to push back.

In the case of health care alone, a majority of states encompassing 53 percent of America’s population and 52.4 percent of the country’s Electoral College votes sued the federal government in 2011 to stop Obamacare’ s “individual mandate” to buy health insurance or to be assessed a tax penalty by the IRS, albeit ultimately without success at the Supreme Court. Nonetheless, 26 states have declined to participate in the so-called “health exchanges,” and an additional seven states have elected to take only partial responsibility for the exchanges.

Whether because of this pushback or for political expediency, the president himself has subsequently refused to implement the law as passed, granting waivers from and postponing implementation of its most salient features except, unfortunately, for the “individual mandate.”

On a whole host of issues – of which health care is but one – it remains to be seen how the continuing battle between government control and individual liberty will be resolved. But as Lincoln observed in his Gettysburg Address, a nation cannot long endure half slave and half free.

Which do you want to be?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: civilwar; cw2; cwii; liberty; obamacare; secondcivilwar

1 posted on 09/08/2013 8:52:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did I give you the information you needed about the Philippines?


2 posted on 09/08/2013 9:09:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (Mark Levin: Barack Obama is a human wrecking ball)
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To: Mark17

Yes, until such time as we decide what to do. Thanks.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 9:15:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see the connection. Lincoln was a Republican and Obama is, well, ostensibly a Democrat but in reality he’s a bloody Marxist.


4 posted on 09/08/2013 9:58:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first one was not a civil war as it was more of a war against regional secession... not a struggle for control over the Capital.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 10:31:28 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article

democrats are for slavery, for making individuals slaves of the government

I’m a Republican so I am for freedom, real human rights like property rights, freedom of speech, right to bear arms etc.


6 posted on 09/08/2013 10:46:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article

democrats are for slavery, for making individuals slaves of the government

I’m a Republican so I am for freedom, real human rights like property rights, freedom of speech, right to bear arms, small government etc.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 10:46:59 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A real SitRep. First 22 minutes. Good Stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWHm0p5ipM#t=569


8 posted on 09/09/2013 12:53:39 AM PDT by Fyscat (USMC Combat Vet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Which do you want to be?

What is the solution?

9 posted on 09/09/2013 2:54:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the article: "But as Lincoln observed in his Gettysburg Address, a nation cannot long endure half slave and half free."

Oh, dear me...
You know, FRiends, there was a time, way back in those bad-old stone ages, when even children in public schools were required to memorize some of Lincoln's speeches, and would never-after confuse one with the other...

In Lincoln's 1858 "House Divided" speech in Springfield, Illinois, he said:

In Lincoln's 1863 Gettysburg Address he said:

Now, I hate to be a stickler, but on the other hand, it's not that hard to look these old speeches up, and get them right.

Lincoln, House Divided:
Lincoln, Gettysburg Address:

10 posted on 09/09/2013 8:57:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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