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Mormon Mom Who Fought for Prop 8, Now Fights for Gay Son [Portman Syndrome]
Good Morning America ^ | Fri, Jun 21, 2013 | SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES

Posted on 06/25/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by Antioch

Wendy and Tom Montgomery are devout Mormons from California who pounded on doors in 2008 to support the passage of Proposition 8, the state referendum that overturned the ruling that allowed same-sex couples to marry in California, and is now before the U.S. Supreme Court. They did so not knowing that their now 14-year-old son, Jordan, was gay and would later contemplate suicide because of the church's steadfast belief that homosexuality is a sin that would cut him off from his family not only here on earth but in the afterlife. "One of core tenets we believe in as Mormons is that the family is eternal in nature,"

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Things Jesus didn't say: "This is the Word of God. Now, before you follow me, go to your families form discussion groups. If the personal lives of any member of your family contradicts my teaching, come back and I will rewrite everything so no one is feeling left out."
1 posted on 06/25/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by Antioch
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To: Antioch
Now Fights for Gay Son

Let him fight his own battles. Slug folks with his purse maybe.

2 posted on 06/25/2013 10:06:09 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Antioch

So they have no moral standards — just selfish interests.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 10:06:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: Antioch

Oh, please.

Sin is sin.

Would she defend her little boy if he were a drug addict or alcoholic? After all, they can’t help themselves, either, and what they do is sin, too.


4 posted on 06/25/2013 10:06:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Antioch

Or Cheney Syndrome.


5 posted on 06/25/2013 10:07:18 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Antioch

“Welcome to ‘Good Morning Sodom’ . . . next in the news”—oh, here we go.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 10:08:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DManA

Self interest leads to much error and evil, which is why it is such a prominent theme in the bible.


7 posted on 06/25/2013 10:10:57 AM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Antioch
***...because of the church's steadfast belief that homosexuality is a sin...***

Too many ‘journalists’ make it sound like it's the stick-in-the-mud old fogie church elders who arbitrarily decide homosexuality is a sin.

Fact is it is an abomination to God according to His Word.

8 posted on 06/25/2013 10:12:33 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Antioch

Some people act as if God’s Word depends on popular opinion or the courts.


9 posted on 06/25/2013 10:12:46 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: humblegunner
While I feel for these people and the grief they are living with...they are not doing their "son" any favors by turning their backs on fundamental moral principles. Doesn't matter whether they are Mormon, Bapstists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc., etc. it happens within all of them.

The fact is, homsexuality is a sin, and one that God in Heaven has been very specific about.

That's not chagning.

Rather than give in due to their grief, they should remain steadfast and trust in God and His purposes. God still loves their son, he always has. But he does not countenance sin.

So, these folks are now legitimizing the sinful and perverted actions in their son's life, and turning their back on God's will in the proicess.

Sad thing to see. Sick thing for our country...and will lead to our nation's fall if we do not reverse course.

But, heck, we are already well and truly far down that road anyway with issues like abortion and so many others.

Unless we find a way to turn things around...miraculously...the storm's coming...and it's going to be ugly.

A Modern Declaration of Liberty

10 posted on 06/25/2013 10:14:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: freedumb2003

Sound like Wendy and Tom Montgomery had a little help in the writing of their manifesto-it’s full of the usual memes and progressive boilerplate.

The first clue is the opening shot: “Mr and Mrs X are devout....” These days the only thing “devout” means is emotional and activist. That’s why Pelosi the Possessed is one of the most devout Catholics in America. PRACTICING means something different. (i.e. follows God’s teachings as it personally applies to one’s life).


11 posted on 06/25/2013 10:16:44 AM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: DManA

Lynne Cheney always has been silent on the issue of homosexuality and gay marriage. I suspect Dick Cheney’s being for gay marriage was his way of splitting the difference, letting his wife uphold her beliefs, yet giving his daughter enough support to stay engaged with her family.

I’ve known a few people who come out as gay and essentially blackmail their parents: support my lifestyle or I’ll cut you off. This is unbearable for people, especially for mothers, and people make compromises.


12 posted on 06/25/2013 10:17:32 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They’re called left wing hacks who pretend Christians


13 posted on 06/25/2013 10:17:46 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Antioch

Who was it that said “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do” ... ?


14 posted on 06/25/2013 10:17:55 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Antioch

MORMONISM 2013 = HARRY REID MARXISM AND GAY SCOUTS !


15 posted on 06/25/2013 10:19:49 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Antioch
church's ward's steadfast belief that homosexuality is a sin

ah No.

16 posted on 06/25/2013 10:21:23 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: humblegunner

This is one of the things that has advanced the Homosexual agenda so greatly in the past few years.

Parents and friends who love the Homosexual have decided to aid them in their quest for perverted sex.

I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored.

I have a Homosexual Nephew, and a Niece, but I do not approve of their sickness. Justifying their perversion because we are related is not my bag.


17 posted on 06/25/2013 10:22:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Antioch

I wonder if there is any targeting of the children of high-profile anti homosexual rights activists going on.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 10:23:13 AM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Jeff Head

We have friends whose son has come out as gay. They ave not changed their views at all, but they still love their son. They just agree to disagree. They have been steadfast in telling him why they believe the way they do. They’ve had others talk to him. They continually pray for him.

I don’t think it’s right to shun a child from the family.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 10:26:55 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Jeff Head
"I know my choice. I know where I shall stand. I will not run. I will not hide. I will not bow down to, or crawl or beg at the feet of those who consider themselves my better and my master."

Jeff I know you mean well, but you have already stated here on this forum that WHEN your "prophets" tell you to disarm you will do it. I will prdict a step further and state that your "prophets" tell you TURN IN those of us who won't disarm, you will do that too.

I've been in your shoes....Heck I RAISED THE "TITLE OF LIBERTY" on the west steps of the California State Capitol a t a very large rally I held in 1997.

Come out of the cult Jeff, be free. The hard political left turn of Salt Lake sect mormonism should be the only proof you need that the great unchanging I AM does not lead it. You don't have to go any farther back than Ezra Taft Benson to find "inspired" teachings 180 degrees from what Monson and Oaks are pushing today.


20 posted on 06/25/2013 10:30:09 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Antioch

I wonder if she will be protesting the Mormon Church and demand temple weddings for gays?


21 posted on 06/25/2013 10:30:21 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Westbrook

you don’t confuse love with approval.

if she really loved the kid she’d fight to help him out of that. not fight to have the sin legalized and celebrated.


22 posted on 06/25/2013 10:35:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: OldNavyVet

many do know what they do.


23 posted on 06/25/2013 10:36:07 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: freedumb2003

Maybe had she taken the time to share with her son what is right and wrong, the cost of sin, and the need to turn to Jesus Christ for forgiveness and for change -


24 posted on 06/25/2013 10:37:32 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: freedumb2003

This is also a Mormon issue (sorry in advance to our LDS Freepers, but it is the truth).

The LDS organization has officially sided with the homosexuals.

I received this in response to an inquiry I sent regarding the BSA:

“While we believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, we are not opposed to gay and lesbian as many claim; we believe in strict morality before marriage, regardless of sexual orientation.”


25 posted on 06/25/2013 10:40:01 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: SENTINEL
I am where I am sentinel. I am not and will not seek to attack you for your religious beliefs and try and undercut you...that is part and parcel of a "divide and conquoer strategy that our enemies use so well against us.

We need to stand tigether. And I am willing to do so.

As it is, my exeriecnes, activities, and record speak for themselves. I stand...have stood...and will stand for liberty. I also answer to God. If God's teels me to do something, I will do it. Each of us has to judge personally in our hearts what that is.

God's speed to you in your efforts, and may He be with us all.

26 posted on 06/25/2013 10:40:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: luckystarmom
Agreed 100%. There should be n shunning. what your firends diod was exactly right.

I have kids of my own who have turned away from the Lord and the teachings of their youth. They know we love them, and that they are welcome at tour home. They also know, and respect, that certian of their behavior is nott to be brought home...amd they do not.

Our prayers, and our love remain steadfast for them...and they know it, and why.

I understand completely...and believe that your friends are taking the path that will provide their son a way home should he ever turn from that life style...and I will pray as well that he does.

27 posted on 06/25/2013 10:43:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: luckystarmom
I don’t think it’s right to shun a child from the family.

I'm with you on that.

28 posted on 06/25/2013 10:44:02 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff you need to get out now so your loyalties aren't divided when we need you most. You told me here you would disarm if Monson ordered it. Oaks already last fall said Mormons should't be "joining right wing groups or purchasing arms or ammunition."

It's hard, I know. They are lying to you....

29 posted on 06/25/2013 10:44:48 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: dragonblustar

Next step


30 posted on 06/25/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: SENTINEL
No...they are not. But you are free to believe as you will.

I have stood before, and will do so again.

In the end, God in Heaven is in control. If we think, in anything, that we can stand against His will, we are deceiving ourselves.

If God tells me to be still...then I shall be still, though hell rage against it. If He does not, or if hhe says to stand, then I shall stand with the same detemrination.

Each must decide for themselves. I have made my decisions in that regard.

To attempt to paint millions of people of a particular faith with a brush as you are doing, as I said, simply plays into the hands of those seeking to divide us.

Again, God's speed and His blessings in your own efforts for our liberty...I shall seek them for my efforts as well.

31 posted on 06/25/2013 10:50:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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If your children became 'Born Again Spirit Filled Christians' would you shun them?
(whom the SLC lds leadership have disparaged)

32 posted on 06/25/2013 10:51:02 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have a nephew that’s showing all the signs and is likely going to come out any day now. The other evil of homosexuality is the ripple effect: this one individual, I am absolutely certain, will be the cause of schism, estrangement and death of our large extended family. One side is practicing Catholic and does not confuse truth with “nice” while the other side is entirely populated by “devout” Episcopalians who will show their unconditional love by encouraging his path to destruction.


33 posted on 06/25/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Jeff Head
I left when a Stake President told me it was my duty to COVER UP "unhelpful history", and to not aid with the coverup effort was "apostasy". I was a "high priest" and bishopric member. I had gone to him about this quote, from an original copy of the LDS Published "History of the Church" in hand.

""Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." -FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)

They DO lie to you Jeff. They lie to you, cheat you, steal money and time from you, and now are steering you on a hard left political course that you will follow if you do not come out and be free.

I too once was blind, but now I see.

34 posted on 06/25/2013 10:58:07 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Antioch

This “my son/daughter/cousin/friend/fill in the blank is gay so I favor blanket ‘gay rights’ demands” is really, really annoying. A principle or policy is either right or it’s wrong because it deals with everyone.

NOTHING says they can’t love their son whether he’s gay or straight. Exactly when did 14 year olds become committed to a sexual orientation? When I was 14 no one (of repute, as they say) had sexual experiences to know what their orientation was, much less to be committed.

Marriage is either between a man and a woman or it’s just an unanchored floating relationship between two or more people of whatever sex (or whatever species for that matter).


35 posted on 06/25/2013 10:58:50 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: humblegunner
From the article:

Because Jordan is not sexually active, he holds an Aaronic priesthood in the church, which means he can pass the sacrament in a ceremony akin to a Catholic communion.

The support this poor kid needs is a psychologist before his temptation past into action.

36 posted on 06/25/2013 11:02:39 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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If your children became 'Born Again Spirit Filled Christians' would you shun them?

Jeff Head's answer should be interesting.

I say that, because ... Long ago ... a Mormon friend was not allowed to go to his daughter's wedding in a Mormon temple because ... he drank coffee.

37 posted on 06/25/2013 11:07:10 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: SENTINEL

SENTENIEL 2013 = Idiotic Logical Fallacies!

from a Mormon Scout Master and proud Homophobe!


38 posted on 06/25/2013 11:35:21 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: Antioch
Self interest leads to much error and evil, which is why it is such a prominent theme in the bible.

Does it ever.

39 posted on 06/25/2013 11:37:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: teppe
"Idiotic logical fallacies" ? I can see the liberal is wearing off on you already. Can't handle facts so you resort to personal attacks and name calling.

Proof of that will be Salt Lake coming out with a public excommunication of this lady for "supporting causes not in alignment with church principles."

Maybe they'll get Harry Reid while they're at it.

The Ezra Taft Benson / John Birch Society Mormon church is dead, now it's the Harry Reid / Gay scout church.

It's YOUR bed, not mine, lay in it wolf.

-Sheepdog

40 posted on 06/25/2013 11:43:21 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Antioch

So I guess God changed His mind.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: teppe

Glad to see you are bucking the orders from SLC lds leaders.


42 posted on 06/25/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: OldNavyVet

The only people allowed in the secret building are those deemed worthy and have a temple recommendation.


43 posted on 06/25/2013 12:06:53 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: utahagen

Good point about Lynne Cheney never speaking about it......it’s why I still have RESPECT for her...unlike her husband who I USED to LOVE!!


44 posted on 06/25/2013 12:24:34 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: svcw
Of course not.

I have one daughter who is a good Christian girl, but no longer going to the LDS church. She is not shunned in the least and visits us every week, and we visit her. Of course I would not shun them, and there is absolutely no direction form the Church to do anything of the sort.

If a member is doing that, then they are making that choice for whatever reason, but it is not something I would never do with my children. I love them all, and try and help them in whatver way I can, financially, emotionally, spiritually,...motivating, encouraging, them to whatever extent possible.

I would hope svcw, if one of yours ever became LDS you would be able to do likewise.

Now, as to a Temple Marriage, if someone is not a member of the Church, or cannot hold a temple recommend, then they cannot enter the temple. The cermoony, the receptions, etc., etc. are something the family has to decide how to handle based on the circumstance.

In our own family, we have held civil ceremonies where the couple was married so all could attend, and then later had the marriage sealed in the temple. On other occassions, they have elected to be married in the temple and then exchange vows again poutside the temple so all could be there. The receptions have all been open to all. People can resolve these issues if they have a mind...but it is up to them as individuals.

45 posted on 06/25/2013 12:27:24 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SENTINEL
Stake President's are not perfect, Sentinel, neither was Joseph Smith. No one but the Savior, Jesus Christ is/was.

I am sorry for your experiences. I am sorry they have had the impact on you that they have to whatever degree they have caused sorrow or hurt.

That's a part of life's experiences we all face.

I understand all the quotes, all of the matrial, etc., etc. I was a convert to the church as a teenager when my father and I joined. We had been very active and participating Baptists before, my father a Deacon in the chirch we attended.

I saw all of the negative literature, claims of lies, falsehoods, cheating, etc., etc. I saw it again many times over as a missionary, and have seen it over and over since. From those I am acqujainted with, including family members outside of the Church.

Yet, I received the answer I did anyway, and have never had a call from God to go back on it. Nor do I expect I ever will. I too am a High Priest in the Church, Sentinnel, have been in Bishoprics and numerous other callings.

Again, sorry for your experiences...but I still wish you and yours well.

As is pertains to the defense of our liberty which is founded on the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I again, wish you great success in your efforts. We all must work together for those principles of accountability before God, the saving grace and mercy of His Son, and His Gospel of love, compassion, and adherance to His principles if we are to remain free.

All of us can do that together, and it is what I am dedicated to...whether with LDS folks, Catholics, Baptists, Evangelicals, Methodists, or any other person who believes in and adheres to those underlying moral principles.

Again, God's speed.

46 posted on 06/25/2013 12:37:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Ann Archy
I still love Dick Cheney. In his defense, he never said, “I used to be against gay marriage, but then my daughter came out as gay...” Also, he's never criticized people who oppose gay marriage, and he's never patted himself on the back for being open-minded. The people who say having a gay child changed their minds are the ones I think are either nitwits or quislings.
47 posted on 06/25/2013 1:24:19 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, I have a huge mormon family and I can tell you family members have been shunned when they left for what ever reson or became Born Again.
As I said the lds “temple” is secret.


48 posted on 06/25/2013 1:26:55 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: TheBattman

>>“While we believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, we are not opposed to gay and lesbian as many claim; we believe in strict morality before marriage, regardless of sexual orientation.”<<

That is pretty much the Catholic position. You can have the attraction you just aren’t supposed to act on it.


49 posted on 06/25/2013 3:16:06 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: svcw
I cannot speak for others., svcw You asked me about myself and my family. And I answered you honestly and truthfully.

If you wanted a platform to speak about your own experience, you should have just done so, instead of asking me. As it is, I answered you in sincerity.

What other folks do, is between them and God, but shuunning a member of your own family simply because they joined another faith, is something that only makes matters worse between people who should love one another.

Sadly, it happens both ways...and, IMHO, is wrong.

50 posted on 06/25/2013 3:30:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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