Skip to comments.Mormon Mom Who Fought for Prop 8, Now Fights for Gay Son [Portman Syndrome]
Posted on 06/25/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by Antioch
Wendy and Tom Montgomery are devout Mormons from California who pounded on doors in 2008 to support the passage of Proposition 8, the state referendum that overturned the ruling that allowed same-sex couples to marry in California, and is now before the U.S. Supreme Court. They did so not knowing that their now 14-year-old son, Jordan, was gay and would later contemplate suicide because of the church's steadfast belief that homosexuality is a sin that would cut him off from his family not only here on earth but in the afterlife. "One of core tenets we believe in as Mormons is that the family is eternal in nature,"
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Let him fight his own battles. Slug folks with his purse maybe.
So they have no moral standards — just selfish interests.
Sin is sin.
Would she defend her little boy if he were a drug addict or alcoholic? After all, they can’t help themselves, either, and what they do is sin, too.
Or Cheney Syndrome.
“Welcome to ‘Good Morning Sodom’ . . . next in the news”oh, here we go.
Self interest leads to much error and evil, which is why it is such a prominent theme in the bible.
Too many ‘journalists’ make it sound like it's the stick-in-the-mud old fogie church elders who arbitrarily decide homosexuality is a sin.
Fact is it is an abomination to God according to His Word.
Some people act as if God’s Word depends on popular opinion or the courts.
The fact is, homsexuality is a sin, and one that God in Heaven has been very specific about.
That's not chagning.
Rather than give in due to their grief, they should remain steadfast and trust in God and His purposes. God still loves their son, he always has. But he does not countenance sin.
So, these folks are now legitimizing the sinful and perverted actions in their son's life, and turning their back on God's will in the proicess.
Sad thing to see. Sick thing for our country...and will lead to our nation's fall if we do not reverse course.
But, heck, we are already well and truly far down that road anyway with issues like abortion and so many others.
Unless we find a way to turn things around...miraculously...the storm's coming...and it's going to be ugly.
Sound like Wendy and Tom Montgomery had a little help in the writing of their manifesto-it’s full of the usual memes and progressive boilerplate.
The first clue is the opening shot: “Mr and Mrs X are devout....” These days the only thing “devout” means is emotional and activist. That’s why Pelosi the Possessed is one of the most devout Catholics in America. PRACTICING means something different. (i.e. follows God’s teachings as it personally applies to one’s life).
Lynne Cheney always has been silent on the issue of homosexuality and gay marriage. I suspect Dick Cheney’s being for gay marriage was his way of splitting the difference, letting his wife uphold her beliefs, yet giving his daughter enough support to stay engaged with her family.
I’ve known a few people who come out as gay and essentially blackmail their parents: support my lifestyle or I’ll cut you off. This is unbearable for people, especially for mothers, and people make compromises.
They’re called left wing hacks who pretend Christians
Who was it that said “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do” ... ?
MORMONISM 2013 = HARRY REID MARXISM AND GAY SCOUTS !
This is one of the things that has advanced the Homosexual agenda so greatly in the past few years.
Parents and friends who love the Homosexual have decided to aid them in their quest for perverted sex.
I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored.
I have a Homosexual Nephew, and a Niece, but I do not approve of their sickness. Justifying their perversion because we are related is not my bag.
I wonder if there is any targeting of the children of high-profile anti homosexual rights activists going on.
We have friends whose son has come out as gay. They ave not changed their views at all, but they still love their son. They just agree to disagree. They have been steadfast in telling him why they believe the way they do. They’ve had others talk to him. They continually pray for him.
I don’t think it’s right to shun a child from the family.
Jeff I know you mean well, but you have already stated here on this forum that WHEN your "prophets" tell you to disarm you will do it. I will prdict a step further and state that your "prophets" tell you TURN IN those of us who won't disarm, you will do that too.
I've been in your shoes....Heck I RAISED THE "TITLE OF LIBERTY" on the west steps of the California State Capitol a t a very large rally I held in 1997.
Come out of the cult Jeff, be free. The hard political left turn of Salt Lake sect mormonism should be the only proof you need that the great unchanging I AM does not lead it. You don't have to go any farther back than Ezra Taft Benson to find "inspired" teachings 180 degrees from what Monson and Oaks are pushing today.
I wonder if she will be protesting the Mormon Church and demand temple weddings for gays?
you don’t confuse love with approval.
if she really loved the kid she’d fight to help him out of that. not fight to have the sin legalized and celebrated.
many do know what they do.
Maybe had she taken the time to share with her son what is right and wrong, the cost of sin, and the need to turn to Jesus Christ for forgiveness and for change -
This is also a Mormon issue (sorry in advance to our LDS Freepers, but it is the truth).
The LDS organization has officially sided with the homosexuals.
I received this in response to an inquiry I sent regarding the BSA:
“While we believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, we are not opposed to gay and lesbian as many claim; we believe in strict morality before marriage, regardless of sexual orientation.”
We need to stand tigether. And I am willing to do so.
As it is, my exeriecnes, activities, and record speak for themselves. I stand...have stood...and will stand for liberty. I also answer to God. If God's teels me to do something, I will do it. Each of us has to judge personally in our hearts what that is.
God's speed to you in your efforts, and may He be with us all.
I have kids of my own who have turned away from the Lord and the teachings of their youth. They know we love them, and that they are welcome at tour home. They also know, and respect, that certian of their behavior is nott to be brought home...amd they do not.
Our prayers, and our love remain steadfast for them...and they know it, and why.
I understand completely...and believe that your friends are taking the path that will provide their son a way home should he ever turn from that life style...and I will pray as well that he does.
I'm with you on that.
It's hard, I know. They are lying to you....
I have stood before, and will do so again.
In the end, God in Heaven is in control. If we think, in anything, that we can stand against His will, we are deceiving ourselves.
If God tells me to be still...then I shall be still, though hell rage against it. If He does not, or if hhe says to stand, then I shall stand with the same detemrination.
Each must decide for themselves. I have made my decisions in that regard.
To attempt to paint millions of people of a particular faith with a brush as you are doing, as I said, simply plays into the hands of those seeking to divide us.
Again, God's speed and His blessings in your own efforts for our liberty...I shall seek them for my efforts as well.
I have a nephew that’s showing all the signs and is likely going to come out any day now. The other evil of homosexuality is the ripple effect: this one individual, I am absolutely certain, will be the cause of schism, estrangement and death of our large extended family. One side is practicing Catholic and does not confuse truth with “nice” while the other side is entirely populated by “devout” Episcopalians who will show their unconditional love by encouraging his path to destruction.
""Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." -FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)
They DO lie to you Jeff. They lie to you, cheat you, steal money and time from you, and now are steering you on a hard left political course that you will follow if you do not come out and be free.
I too once was blind, but now I see.
This “my son/daughter/cousin/friend/fill in the blank is gay so I favor blanket ‘gay rights’ demands” is really, really annoying. A principle or policy is either right or it’s wrong because it deals with everyone.
NOTHING says they can’t love their son whether he’s gay or straight. Exactly when did 14 year olds become committed to a sexual orientation? When I was 14 no one (of repute, as they say) had sexual experiences to know what their orientation was, much less to be committed.
Marriage is either between a man and a woman or it’s just an unanchored floating relationship between two or more people of whatever sex (or whatever species for that matter).
Because Jordan is not sexually active, he holds an Aaronic priesthood in the church, which means he can pass the sacrament in a ceremony akin to a Catholic communion.
The support this poor kid needs is a psychologist before his temptation past into action.
Jeff Head's answer should be interesting.
I say that, because ... Long ago ... a Mormon friend was not allowed to go to his daughter's wedding in a Mormon temple because ... he drank coffee.
SENTENIEL 2013 = Idiotic Logical Fallacies!
from a Mormon Scout Master and proud Homophobe!
Does it ever.
Proof of that will be Salt Lake coming out with a public excommunication of this lady for "supporting causes not in alignment with church principles."
Maybe they'll get Harry Reid while they're at it.
The Ezra Taft Benson / John Birch Society Mormon church is dead, now it's the Harry Reid / Gay scout church.
It's YOUR bed, not mine, lay in it wolf.
So I guess God changed His mind.
Glad to see you are bucking the orders from SLC lds leaders.
The only people allowed in the secret building are those deemed worthy and have a temple recommendation.
Good point about Lynne Cheney never speaking about it......it’s why I still have RESPECT for her...unlike her husband who I USED to LOVE!!
I have one daughter who is a good Christian girl, but no longer going to the LDS church. She is not shunned in the least and visits us every week, and we visit her. Of course I would not shun them, and there is absolutely no direction form the Church to do anything of the sort.
If a member is doing that, then they are making that choice for whatever reason, but it is not something I would never do with my children. I love them all, and try and help them in whatver way I can, financially, emotionally, spiritually,...motivating, encouraging, them to whatever extent possible.
I would hope svcw, if one of yours ever became LDS you would be able to do likewise.
Now, as to a Temple Marriage, if someone is not a member of the Church, or cannot hold a temple recommend, then they cannot enter the temple. The cermoony, the receptions, etc., etc. are something the family has to decide how to handle based on the circumstance.
In our own family, we have held civil ceremonies where the couple was married so all could attend, and then later had the marriage sealed in the temple. On other occassions, they have elected to be married in the temple and then exchange vows again poutside the temple so all could be there. The receptions have all been open to all. People can resolve these issues if they have a mind...but it is up to them as individuals.
I am sorry for your experiences. I am sorry they have had the impact on you that they have to whatever degree they have caused sorrow or hurt.
That's a part of life's experiences we all face.
I understand all the quotes, all of the matrial, etc., etc. I was a convert to the church as a teenager when my father and I joined. We had been very active and participating Baptists before, my father a Deacon in the chirch we attended.
I saw all of the negative literature, claims of lies, falsehoods, cheating, etc., etc. I saw it again many times over as a missionary, and have seen it over and over since. From those I am acqujainted with, including family members outside of the Church.
Yet, I received the answer I did anyway, and have never had a call from God to go back on it. Nor do I expect I ever will. I too am a High Priest in the Church, Sentinnel, have been in Bishoprics and numerous other callings.
Again, sorry for your experiences...but I still wish you and yours well.
As is pertains to the defense of our liberty which is founded on the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I again, wish you great success in your efforts. We all must work together for those principles of accountability before God, the saving grace and mercy of His Son, and His Gospel of love, compassion, and adherance to His principles if we are to remain free.
All of us can do that together, and it is what I am dedicated to...whether with LDS folks, Catholics, Baptists, Evangelicals, Methodists, or any other person who believes in and adheres to those underlying moral principles.
Again, God's speed.
Jeff, I have a huge mormon family and I can tell you family members have been shunned when they left for what ever reson or became Born Again.
As I said the lds “temple” is secret.
>>While we believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman, we are not opposed to gay and lesbian as many claim; we believe in strict morality before marriage, regardless of sexual orientation.<<
That is pretty much the Catholic position. You can have the attraction you just aren’t supposed to act on it.
If you wanted a platform to speak about your own experience, you should have just done so, instead of asking me. As it is, I answered you in sincerity.
What other folks do, is between them and God, but shuunning a member of your own family simply because they joined another faith, is something that only makes matters worse between people who should love one another.
Sadly, it happens both ways...and, IMHO, is wrong.
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