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Posted on 05/20/2013 6:11:46 PM PDT by Chaps
We are endowed by our Creator [in the original document.] Not by the Creator and his son...
So why didn’t Hancock fight for Christian doctrine inclusion in the founding documents?
And why do you hear our country referred to as a Judeo-Christian country and not merely Christian? And why did founding fathers and heads of colleges learn classical Hebrew? Did they have a greater reverence for the Five Books of Moses, or just a general down-playing of doctrine in general?
There was to be no national religion as there was in every other country. No rule by Baptists, Congregationalists or Presbyterians. Are you ignorant of history and the abuses?
You've answered nothing. You've simply spewed more liberal garbage.
Goodday to you.
Well, I’m just playin’ devil’s advocate here. I’m certainly not a lib. BTW, your interpretation of “Let US...” is devoid of all Jewish interpretation. G-d spoke, so to speak, to the angels.... Jewish commentators were worried throughout the ages that it would be misinterpreted.... I guess they had a billion reasons to worry, though this isn’t the religion thread as I understand it.
But a three-judge panel of the Second Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in May 2012 overturned Siragusa’s decision
How can a ruling be overturned 3 months before it is made?
Why do you think I used QUOTATION MARKS???????????
Of course, there is no right to freedom FROM religion!
Of course, there is NO right from NOT BEING OFFENDED!
Atheists, in their own weirding way, have defined their beliefs as a religion, and in their very acts, to protect what they think is a non-religion! Within their practices
of denouncing any of the world’s belief systems, including Paganism and all that falls under that umbrella, they have chosen a ‘deity’, i.e., “reason”, or, “logic”. which is humorous, because what is the first mention of “logic” as a learning tool?
Aristotilean Logic! Aristotle, who said:
“Men create gods after their own image, not only with regard to their form but with regard to their mode of life.”
Therefore, the Atheists have made themselves their own gods, and have declared all others null and void.
You could argue that the matter of holding legislative prayer is a political question over which the courts have no jurisdiction, since it seeks to tell the legislature how to run its business.
SCOTUS used to refuse to resolve political questions but in the past several decades, it doesn't seem like there is as much hesitation to do this as there once was.
True. The court should never even consider these questions IMO
Duh, all this sounds like “Religious Persecution” to me.
BTW, whatever happened to that “FREEDOM OF RELIGION” phrase?
Was it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights? (Gotta dig out my copies and check it out - - - ).
“.....We’ll see how many traitors siude with hte left in the SC this time”
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Whether Roberts sides with the leftists will depend upon whether the leftist establishment needs his vote and, if so, they will resurrect/reapply their blackmail of this unprincipled creature.
He’s basically a puppet now.
Bump.
Profit or information, would be my guesses. Is that wrong?
Also, how do you always find ‘blog pimps’? Is there a search feature for that?
It's just one of my many useless talents.
On the nose. There are consequences to all this.
Recall that government school was originally a Protestant/Reformer tool to indoctrinate Catholics into the ‘Protestant Work Ethic’ and prevent an electoral take over by Papists.
It seems to have failed and been hijacked. What would America look like today if we had private schooling only?
How would you manage prayers for polytheistic religions?
I wonder if we’re being too sensitive. When my Muslim friend greets me with an Islamic religious saying I’m not offended.
A Rabbi’s prayer wouldn’t make me feel Jewish or inclined to convert. I suspect that a lot of unconscious liberalism washes over all of us via the media. I wonder if we’ve been traind to be hypersensitive to it.
The world of the NT was a polyglot of religions all jammed into geographic slivers around the Med. They all did business and maintained their religious traditions or lost them as they seemed fit.
In 2002 he volunteered for a demotion from Air Force Major to Navy Lieutenant, and took a pay-cut, just to become a chaplain. Ordained by the Chaplaincy of Full Gospel Churches, “Chaps” has been married to his wife Mary since 1991.
Sounds like he's on the front lines and could use a little support - if not financial, then moral. I mean if the guy were a lefty liberals would have found this guy some lucrative private consulting projects, a government job with a pension clause, or a government grant to study the religious biases of C.O.'s.
The content of the material or the merits of the author are irrelevant to me.
Needless excerpting is the single criteria I look at.
The First Amendment proscribes the federal government. SCOTUS has managed to turn the Constitution on its head by pretending the 14th Amendment allows the federal government to restrict the states. Of course the 14th Amendment does no such thing except regarding the prohibition on slavery and assurance of equal protection and due process to former slaves, now full citizens. The 14th Amendment was a follow up to the Civil War and was among three amendments meant to deal with the slave issue and the rights of former slaves.
Although Justice Miller in the famous 1873 Slaughterhouse case got it right, the federal government with the aid and abetment of SCOTUS has used the 14th Amendment to assert its will on the states.
The Constitution is essentially a prohibition on the federal government. The “Progressives” (collectivists who don’t like the anti-big-government Constitution and who don’t like individual freedom) and their “Progressive Movement” began around 1900 via SCOTUS to gradually erode the Constitution. Either they win by continuing to snuff out freedom, or we win by asserting the values of freedom from coercive government and demanding an adherence to the Constitution in its original intent. We must also win the argument between the voluntariness of freedom and coerciveness of egalitarianism by arguing as Milton Friedman did, that a society that puts freedom ahead of equality will have a great deal of both whereas a society that puts equality first will have neither.
Aren’t you a former Pimpbuster, and didn’t you work here on FR for the Blogger Overlord, this “chump?”
Did you forget what Jim said about blog pimps?
ABOUT CHAPLAIN GORDEN KLINGENSCHMITT…
“Dr. Chaps” earned his PhD in Theology at Regent University, is an Air Force Academy graduate, motivational speaker and is the former U.S. Navy Chaplain who made national headlines after being vindicated by Congress, when he took a stand for the rights of military chaplains to pray publicly “in Jesus’ name.”
By sacrificing his own 16-year career and a million dollar pension, by demanding his own court martial for the “crime” of worshiping in public, he inspired 300,000 petitioners, 85 percent of polled voters, 35 pro-family groups, and 75 Congressmen who mobilized to overturn the national military “non-sectarian prayer” policy, restoring the rights of military chaplains of all faiths to pray publicly, in uniform, according to the dictates of their conscience, even if they pray “in Jesus’ name.”
READ CHAPLAIN KLINGENSCHMITT’S FULL BIO HERE:
http://prayinjesusname.org/invite-speaker
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