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NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms
AmmoLand ^ | April 8, 2013 | Dan Roberts

Posted on 04/10/2013 7:09:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Title makes it sound like it’s all citizens, not just the ones that many think should.


51 posted on 04/10/2013 8:11:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Adder

Time to start seeing a cash only doctor, whom is NOT beholden to the feds.

There are many more of these doctors popping up. Time to find one.


52 posted on 04/10/2013 8:17:24 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: stuartcr

It really could be almost all citizens depending on the discression of the grabbers. How many people have at any time taken an anti-depressant or live with anyone who has?


53 posted on 04/10/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Family or not, job in NY or not, I would definitely move. NY thinks they are above the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, and everything fought for over the last 300 years. May the leaders rot.


54 posted on 04/10/2013 8:18:49 AM PDT by madison10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As long as due process is observed:

Here’s the due process - Doc writes a script, doc tells the cops, cops take your guns.


55 posted on 04/10/2013 8:19:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Dead Corpse; Graewoulf
Civil War Two has begun.

Yep. Going hot...

It won't go hot until someone on our side shoots back. Which ain't gonna happen, because unlike them, we follow the law.

56 posted on 04/10/2013 8:24:09 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: RepRivFarm
...we follow the law.

And we're about to stop doing that.

57 posted on 04/10/2013 8:27:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: RepRivFarm

” - - - we follow the law. - - - “

Which Law? The Second Amendment, or the up-coming Senate RINO Cave-In POS?


58 posted on 04/10/2013 8:32:07 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

> I have come to the conclusion that HIPPA was more about protecting physicians, hospitals and medical device companies that it was about protecting the patient.

HIPPA is one of the worst liberal schemes to ever be inflicted upon us.
Seven years ago my sister-in-law, a US citizen, went to Vietnam to visit relatives. Some months after returning, she injured herself and the site of the injury got worse and worse. Although she speaks and understand everyday conversational English, she did not understand what the doctor told he about her problem and asked me to find out for her (complete with signed permission paper.) It didn’t make any difference, I was not her husband or an immediate blood relative, so I was refused access to the information about her condition, even when she accompanied me to the doctor’s office.
It took me 4 months and a judge, before I found out that she had contracted TB from some coworker at work. She didn’t know what she had and HIPPA was in the way of finding out.
After determining her affliction she underwent the proper treatment (with a different doctor) and was declared TB free about 2 years later.


59 posted on 04/10/2013 8:32:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: NoGrayZone

HIPPA is useless. Darn near every medical encounter starts with “waive your HIPPA rights or you get no service.”


60 posted on 04/10/2013 8:35:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: BuffaloJack

What a horrible experience. So glad she is well now.


61 posted on 04/10/2013 8:36:11 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: RC one
But we can't arrest illegal aliens or drug addicts in the ER because that might make them not seek medical attention when they need it.

Good point. They are so afraid of scaring, hurting feeling or offending minorities, Illegals and Muslims, but they have no problems with cracking down on legal gun owners.

62 posted on 04/10/2013 8:39:37 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Patients who go on SSRI’s are not being told they were yielding their 2nd amendment rights. Just think if you went on an allergy medication and weren’t told that by doing so, you yield your right to freedom of speech or assembly. Some smart lawyers are going to make a fortune in malpractice lawsuits.


63 posted on 04/10/2013 8:42:26 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: thackney
Ok, you've linked one more article. Let's see what it says. Here's some excerpts of your source.

The owner says his pistol permit might have been suspended because of past medications he was prescribed.

Also,

Tresmond (the attorney) believes it might be linked to his client's past medications

Any encroachment, including the Gun Control Acts of '34 and '68 are direct violations of our 2nd Amendment Rights. But as for the guy in the above referenced article, there's too many "could be's" and "might be's" to know why they took his guns. There very likely could be way more to this story and I prefer to see some verifiable and conclusive evidence before I jump on this particular bandwagon.

64 posted on 04/10/2013 8:47:56 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This year will go down in history for the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future.”

Adolph Hitler (1935 Weapons Act of Nazi Germany)


65 posted on 04/10/2013 8:50:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Kevmo

Millions of people take trazadone and amitritptyline and other tricyclics to aid in sleep. These drugs are considered psychotropic drugs. Thus many millions are now subject to gun confiscation although they have no mental problems.

NOTE: Hippa is a federal law. What are the chances of Eric Holder prosecuting violations of Hippa when used for gun confiscation.


66 posted on 04/10/2013 8:51:09 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

health care provider can be anyone and anything. Even a desk jockey insurance supervisor is a “provider.”

No medical training required.

Decisions will be made based on racial quotas, immigration origin, political positions/registrations and religion. (very ussr)


67 posted on 04/10/2013 8:54:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ctdonath2

I am now in search of the ‘underground’ doctors, cash only.

There seems to be more and more of them popping up. Since they are underground, it’s difficult to find one.....but I will continue my search.


68 posted on 04/10/2013 8:54:16 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DManA

It’s one of the inevitable results of everyone screaming about the drugs that these crazy people used/took when they went out and shot people up.


69 posted on 04/10/2013 9:08:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: longtermmemmory
health care provider can be anyone and anything. Even a desk jockey insurance supervisor is a “provider.”

Yup, same with health care "professional"

70 posted on 04/10/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: stuartcr

You might as well say it was inevitable they’d grab all the guns. If it wasn’t this it’d be something else.


71 posted on 04/10/2013 9:14:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

I don’t believe it’s inevitable that our guns will be taken from us, at least not in my lifetime, and I figure I’ve got 15-20 yrs left.


72 posted on 04/10/2013 9:17:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Also, isn’t this an admission that the drugs are the problem?


73 posted on 04/10/2013 9:29:40 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It is the pretext.

If a person has a competency issue, there has to be a ruling by a judge based on medical experts and representation by counsel.

This s a taking without court due process and just some “provider”. If the provider decides they don’t like the second amendment then nobody who crosses their desk will have any second amendment civil rights.

This is a matter that screams for an emergency injunction.


74 posted on 04/10/2013 9:58:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think you nailed that pretty well!


75 posted on 04/10/2013 9:59:59 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: LouAvul

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/09/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-reportedly-begun-in-new-york-state-heres-the-justification-being-used/


76 posted on 04/10/2013 11:05:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: vpintheak

Yes, the Tresmond Law Firm in Erie County, NY. Listening to the interview with Tom Bauerle embdedded in the Blaze story now.


77 posted on 04/10/2013 12:43:43 PM PDT by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A neuro doc prescribed a trial of valium for “a friend” last year for spasticity (muscle stiffness) associated with an MS-like condition (which is also frequently prescribed for folks with MS) having nothing to do with a mental health diagnosis.

After one day “my friend” stopped taking the valium due to immediate adverse side effects.

Looks like “my friend” needs to rent a boat soon!


78 posted on 04/10/2013 12:49:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: LouAvul

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Lawyer-Client-s-Gun-Permit-Suspended-Over/hNImuo04KUu6LD2O1KaoCQ.cspx


79 posted on 04/10/2013 2:27:14 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: LouAvul

http://www.13wham.com/media/lib/16/5/4/8/548c68c7-31f6-4e43-9587-d17abcfee73c/ERIE_COUNTY_Gun_Permit_Suspended_Letter.pdf


80 posted on 04/10/2013 2:28:00 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Revelation 911

This PDF file simply says the man has to surrender firearms. It doesn’t say why. We don’t know why. That’s my point.


81 posted on 04/10/2013 4:11:17 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Revelation 911
This news report says merely that the attorney claims it was because his client received anti-anxiety meds.

Then there's this: A New York State Police Spokeswoman would not elaborate on details of this case but did say that, "No one, including State Police, is taking guns from anyone because they are on anti-anxiety medications."

82 posted on 04/10/2013 4:14:32 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Seizethecarp
Looks like “my friend” needs to rent a boat soon!

No, don't throw the valium overboard!

83 posted on 04/10/2013 4:15:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Dead Corpse

Again, as in the above linked articles, your article is chock full of “apparantly” and “likely” while nobody authoritative has offered anything definitive.


84 posted on 04/10/2013 4:20:34 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

the attorney indicates why in the accompanying news article on a thread i started here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006374/posts


85 posted on 04/10/2013 4:47:21 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: steve86

“No, don’t throw the valium overboard!”

My “friend” has a naughty RN wife who has a whole drawer full of meds that should have been thrown out long ago and that is where the unused valium resides!


86 posted on 04/10/2013 5:13:40 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: LouAvul

Ok... So a lawyer for a law firm says he has a client that is currently under a confiscation order isn’t good enough for you. He mentions his firm is currently handling 2 such cases.

But this isn’t good enough for you.

Not sure what you are looking for as “definitive”.


87 posted on 04/11/2013 6:29:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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