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The London Riots of 2011, A Prepper's Perspective
Me | July 21st, 2012 | Old Sarge

Posted on 04/06/2013 9:50:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge

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1 posted on 04/06/2013 9:50:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Kartographer; blam; The Duke; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; JRandomFreeper; yorkiemom; ...

Here is something I wrote last year, regarding a real-life urban SHTF.

I’d really like comment and discussion about this one.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 9:51:27 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

Thank you for pulling all this information together and posting.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 10:00:48 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Old Sarge

Sarge. Wait. In the opening lines it’s stated the cops are responsible for gun crimes. What? LOL! Anyway, good AAR and instructive for many. Main point, stay away from population centers if you can. Stay prepped for an onslaught of pop center zombies to stray from the confines of said pop centers when things go to hell in a handbasket. They’ll be hungry and cold. Possibly available to be made even colder.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 10:00:50 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Old Sarge; blam; The Duke; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; JRandomFreeper; yorkiemom

My comment: “They are already practicing.”

28 teens arrested in chaotic wilding assault along Chicago’s Magnificent Mile

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wilding-episode-strikes-fear-downtown-chicago-article-1.1304652

And remember this didn’t happen on the south side in some slum these was one of Chicago showcases.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 10:01:16 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Old Sarge

Does anyone think that “trigger” really caused all that? 99.9999% of the rioters never even heard of the guy or incident before they went looting I bet. As soon as rioters show that police are impotent, they flared up in other places.

It’s a zombie mentality.

Notice that those defending their homes and businesses against the zombies are put down by the police. The same police that didn’t bother to even show up at many of the riots because they knew they couldn’t do anything. Yet they have the temerity to tell people not to defend themselves.

Which would embolden the zombies of course.

The Brits should announce that anyone taking part in the riots would lose all their public benefits. They have so many CCTV cameras in many cities that this could actually be done.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 10:02:32 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Old Sarge

It would be a little different here, since the police have guns, and if the London situation would have broken out here, people would have gotten shot.

I too fear the prospect of civil unrest however. Remember the OWS riots? The plan to blow up a bridge? Our government has addicted people to its handouts, and when the handouts can no longer be given, you’re going to have a lot of angry, poor youths and their parents out in force. We are raising the same feral youths as in Britain, the most recent example being the little shit who shot a baby in the face.

Just make sure you have a gun or preferably guns plural. When a mob of thirteen year old hoodlums start breaking into your house, you may just need an AR-15.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:54 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

During the gun control debates, the Dems said that strict gun control in Britain and Australia caused mass murders to drop to nothing, I guess they didn’t take into acount what happens during urban riots.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 10:07:09 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Viennacon
You don't need no stink'n AR!

9 posted on 04/06/2013 10:08:36 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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10 posted on 04/06/2013 10:15:08 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL
Couple of things...

Does anyone think that “trigger” really caused all that?

In this incident, the protest that went down bad was the epicenter of the riots. It was the "excuse" needed for the "redistribution of wealth" to commence.

Notice that those defending their homes and businesses against the zombies are put down by the police. The same police that didn’t bother to even show up at many of the riots because they knew they couldn’t do anything. Yet they have the temerity to tell people not to defend themselves.

Oh absolutely, and thank you for noticing the point I was trying to make!

They have so many CCTV cameras in many cities that this could actually be done.

Oddly enough, the Panel Report states they were using CCTV to positively ID the arrested looters in order to prosecute. And a good deal of the looters already had strings of priors. But of course, the Brits have a history of releasing feral animals back into the wild (just as Americans do).

11 posted on 04/06/2013 10:16:28 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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From Urban Dictionary:

“Gibs-Me-Dat” (n.) Annuities, in the form of goods, services, or material (usually welfare checks) given predominately to blacks, in exchange for their tacit agreement to reciprocate by not burning down America’s cities.

Example:

“Yo Trayvon, who you be votin' fo' in 2012?”
“I gots to go wit Obama, baby. The democrats be givin out moe betta gibsmedat.”

Synonymous with: tribute, baksheesh, Danegeld, reparations

12 posted on 04/06/2013 10:19:07 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

bump


13 posted on 04/06/2013 10:41:02 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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My son has lived there more than 20 years so I have been there numerous times. “Class” of people never went away in England. If your accent is a certain accent, you are of the upper class - you have been educated among a certain class so you speak that way. If your accent is not that certain way, you will never become upper class to have the privilege they have. They may not speak of it, but they know it in their minds and classify people they meet by their accent. I found this out early on from my daughter-in-law, who is English, and became aware of the difference in accent/class. There was no question where my grandson would attend school - private school. He is among the class with the right accent.

I contacted my son during those riots. He is considered upper class along with his wife who is upper class. He, nor any of his class were the least bit concerned about the rioting of the lower class. He said the rioters would get tired and hungry and stop. The upper class mainly does not live where the riots were. It was simply a minor inconvenience not to go through those areas until the riots stopped.

There were a lot of different town names in your post. London began as a place by the River Thames. It was no different than many small areas that had names. As London grew, all those small named places became part of the ever expanding London town. So, a number of the “towns” you listed are really the city of London. So, if you are in London and drive around, you don't know that you just went into or through another “town”. Those areas will have officials just as a small town here. Our small towns are defined, you know you are there, but, in London, you don't know it as city goes for many miles in all directions.

My son lives outside London in an area where mainly millionaires live. It is a genteel area with no, or few, lower class people. The police in that area went to help with the riots.

I say the above to point out the riots, that I thought were bad, were not a concern among the upper class. It was merely a nuisance that they knew would stop when the rioters got tired and hungry.

Some of you may disagree with my observations, but after many years of being there immersed in all the people, I believe what I wrote is true. Also, with my Texas accent, I was a novelty to their friends but would have gotten no where if I hadn't been the mother/mother-in-law. And, being an American was another strike against me. Being from Texas WAS a help as they still think we ride horses and wear cowboy hats every day with guns on both hips.

14 posted on 04/06/2013 11:13:36 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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Damn near identical to what went down in L.A. after Rodney King.

Most of L.A. is suburbs though — the blacks basically trashed their own neighborhoods.

Seeing Reginald Denny attacked live was a real shock and frankly told me all I need to know about who the real racists are in our country.

Had I been a FReeper back then I would have probably been in better shape, had it spread to where I was.

But also being in L.A. meant I was prepared for Earthquakes so could have at least be OK for a week or so (in fact I did have to depend on myself for about a week when the Northridge Quake hit).

Good AFAR


15 posted on 04/06/2013 12:17:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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>> Our small towns are defined, you know you are there, but, in London, you don’t know it as city goes for many miles in all directions.<<

Again, the same as Los Angeles. One large megalopolis, defined by many “towns:” Van Nuys, Pacoima, Encino and interspersed with cities and unincorporated county areas.

You can drive 3 AM Saturday (the only time to do so uninterrupted) for 1.5 hours in an approximate circle and pass through 25 “towns.”


16 posted on 04/06/2013 12:27:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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You can drive 3 AM Saturday (the only time to do so uninterrupted) for 1.5 hours in an approximate circle and pass through 25 “towns.”

Many places in Texas, you can drive at 3 pm on a Wednesday for 1.5 hours and pass through 2-3 towns. I think I'll stay right here.

17 posted on 04/06/2013 12:36:57 PM PDT by bgill
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To: GeronL
Does anyone think that “trigger” really caused all that? 99.9999% of the rioters never even heard of the guy or incident before they went looting I bet. As soon as rioters show that police are impotent, they flared up in other places. It’s a zombie mentality.

The net result this is that police will be far less aggressive in dealing with black criminals, which is the intended result of the riots.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 12:53:15 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: freedumb2003
Most of L.A. is suburbs though — the blacks basically trashed their own neighborhoods.

It's a meme that keeps getting repeated, and it's false. They did not trash anything of their own. They did not damage their own property.

From their viewpoints, they trashed property in the neighborhood BELONGING TO OUTSIDERS.

The net result is their being relocated elsewhere, with new stuff bought by the government for them. Via Section 8, they are likely to be relocated NEAR YOU.

19 posted on 04/06/2013 1:00:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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>>It’s a meme that keeps getting repeated, and it’s false. They did not trash anything of their own. They did not damage their own property.<<

You are 1/2 right. They trashed their NEIGHBOHOODS, not their own stuff. Many/most of those neighborhoods never rebuilt and now people have to drive for miles even for basic groceries and items.

As for Section 8, that has been around for gar too long and has indeed resulted in some neighborhoods going downhill. But that isn’t directly a result of the riots.

I lived there my whole life — I know.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 1:08:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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