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Part Four: Three Bizarre Events
Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | April 5, 2013 | butterdezillion

Posted on 04/05/2013 9:15:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion

Three events that made no sense at the time now make sense. I'll C&P the substance in the first comment so the HTML will (hopefully) transfer.


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1 posted on 04/05/2013 9:15:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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Part Four: Three Bizarre Events We All Scratched Our Heads At

Republicans had just won a landslide in the 2010 midterms but in December Congressional Republicans were giving away everything including the kitchen sink. The previous year’s Christmas crisis was Obamacare; Christmas of 2010 was filled with the DREAM Act, repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, the START Treaty (giving up our missile defense system, Putin told us after it was passed), and the fiscal emergency caused by Congress failing to pass a budget – again.

But shortly after that there were some bizarre events that had us all scratching our heads. These events make sense when a person realizes that the HDOH has altered at least 4 Aug 1961 BC#’s and the only lawful reason for them to give ANYBODY a BC# they didn’t have originally is when law enforcement says a new BC is necessary to protect the life of the person named on the certificate. In order to give Obama the BC# for Stig Waidelich the HDOH needed to have law enforcement claim that Obama’s life was in danger if he didn’t get a new BC. Remember that, as I set the stage for the 3 bizarre events.

Neil Abercrombie had resigned from the US Congress to run for governor of HI. He won that race and took office on Dec 6, 2010. (1) On Dec 18th he appointed Neal Palafox as HDOH Director. (2) Five days later, on Dec. 23, he gave an interview with The New York Times (3) Sometime that same week he gave an interview to the LA Times (4), and CNN also ran an article (5). All of those articles focused on Abercrombie’s determination to find a way to release Obama’s long-form birth certificate. The NY Times article said this:

But on the matter of the birthers, Mr. Abercrombie grew serious. “I’m going to take care of that,” he said, though he acknowledged that they would be difficult to convince…. And he is angry about legislation in several states that would require presidential candidates to document that they were born in this country…”… My thought is, rather than get into some kind of argument or play into that mentality, why not just simply try to authenticate this and let the facts speak for themselves?”

Arizona had abandoned an eligibility measure, to focus on their immigration bill. But Judy Burges, the author of the measure, had promised to raise it again in the next session. In spite of media demonization of the “extremist” and “racist” Tea Party and legislature of Arizona, the 2010 midterms had given the Republicans there a majority in both legislative chambers.

So far nothing out of the usual here.

On Jan 8th Jared Loughner went on a shooting spree that injured newly-reelected US Rep Gabby Giffords and killed Judge John Roll, the federal judge of impeccable integrity who would have heard a DOJ lawsuit if an eligibility bill was signed into law. The Department of Homeland Security and Sheriff Clarence Dupnik immediately blamed Sarah Palin and “the Tea Party”, even though the evidence suggested that if Loughner had any political leanings, they were to the left. More than anything, he looked to be schizophrenic, although he and one of the men shot were both familiar with mind control techniques.

The media , some politicians including Obama, and Sheriff Clarence Dupnik immediately demonized the “violent rhetoric” of the Tea Party. (6, 7)The “townhall meetings” which had energized the pre-midterm pushback against Obamacare were determined to be too “dangerous” because of the “violent Tea Party”. Especially the “violent” Tea Party in Arizona where the legislature had passed a “racist” immigration bill and nearly passed a “kooky, extremist birther bill”. Sheriff Clarence Dupnik was convinced that “extreme” people like “birthers” are dangerous, and would commit violence against elected leaders.

So during that first month after Abercrombie began to pave the way for the release of Obama’s birth certificate, the media was insisting (and the law enforcement person at the middle of the Arizona shooting was concluding) that “birthers” like the Arizona Tea Partiers are violent, and elected leaders need to be protected from them…. The stage was set for law enforcement to request a new birth certificate for Obama, which would say whatever Dupnik, or Eric Holder, or Janet Napolitano said it had to say.

And then it happened – the first of the 3 bizarre events: A Star-Advertiser columnist asked Abercrombie how his search for Obama’s birth certificate was going, and on Jan 18th published Abercrombie’s response:
“I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.” (Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.) “It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...” (8)
World Net Daily reported on this bizarre statement. (9) Why would Abercrombie and AG Louie need an investigation to find a birth certificate that was at the HDOH where it belonged? Why would he have to look in the State Archives, which doesn’t store birth certificates? Why would he say it was “actually written…. Written down”? The next day The NY Daily News also reported (10) and the day after that Drudge Report linked to it. (11)

This led to the 2nd bizarre event: On Thursday, January 20th, Hollywood news reporter Mike Evans mentioned on 3 different radio shows that he had spoken to his decades-long friend Neil Abercrombie the day before and Abercrombie had told him there is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Evans recounted the conversation, including Abercrombie saying the first time he remembered seeing Obama in Hawaii was at T-ball age. (See Exhibits A and B for transcripts).

The next day (Fri, Jan 21) Abercrombie’s office said he was abandoning the attempt to disclose Obama’s BC because of Obama’s “privacy rights”. And HDOH Communications Director Janice Okubo reminded everyone that Obama’s name is in the birth index (12)– which we now know had been altered to include non-valid records. (13) So it seems like they were trying to put the genie back in the bottle and rely on the falsified birth index as the only evidence of Obama’s birth certificate.

(What Abercrombie told Evans indicates that there was not a hospital birth certificate for Obama at that point. Abercrombie told Evans there was no evidence of a Hawaii birth – and that was after going to the hospitals with a search warrant, which would have allowed him to see the 1961 labor room log that is in Kapiolani Hospital’s archives (14). If the HDOH confirmation of a late-2006 amendment for Obama’s birth certificate (15) or the OIP’s confirmation of supporting affidavits for Obama’s birth record (16) are accurate, then he had SOMETHING at the HDOH but not a hospital birth certificate.)

But the genie wouldn’t go back in the bottle. On Jan. 24th the story hit the internet (17), and by Jan 27 it made it onto Drudge Report (18)

On Jan 26 two things happened to try to deal with the fallout, the latter of which is the 3rd bizarre event: Mike Evans retracted what he had said - instead claiming that he had never even talked to Abercrombie (19) - and Neil Abercrombie asked his HDOH Director, Neal Palafox, to resign (20), with Loretta Fuddy becoming acting Director in his place. (21)

The timing of Palafox’s firing is suspicious, but how it came out is even worse. When Palafox resigned, Abercrombie denied that he had asked Palafox to resign and Communications Director Okubo claimed that Palafox had resigned for personal reasons . The article announcing Palafox’s resignation cited anonymous sources claiming that AG David Louie was investigating Palafox for patient billing fraud – a claim that Louie would not deny even though he had not made any of the required notifications if he was investigating. (22). It’s like he wanted the threat to hang over Palafox, who first heard of those rumors on TV when his resignation was announced – making it look like he had resigned because he was in trouble with the law. Three days after the denials, Abercrombie’s office admitted that they had asked Palafox to resign, after Palafox publicly stated he had no idea why he had resigned.

What it really looks like is Abercrombie fired Palafox and to keep Palafox quiet AG Louie said, “This is a real nice medical practice ya got here. It’d be a shame if somebody framed you for fraud…” But Palafox fought back and forced them to publicly admit they had forced him to resign for reasons other than wrong-doing– though nobody would say why. It seems to me that Palafox could afford to fight back if he had something to hold over the heads of Abercrombie and Louie, and was willing to let them know it.

And that’s why I think they fired him: he wasn’t willing to play their game. He was the snag. They had the request from law enforcement to create a new BC for Obama to protect him from those “violent Arizona birthers”, the stage had been set for it to be released…. And Palafox wouldn’t go along with it. That’s why Abercrombie was caught off-guard by the Star-Advertiser columnist’s question in bizarre event #1; his own HDOH Director stood in the way of the plan so it was in limbo at the time of the question. That’s why Abercrombie hadn’t found a birth certificate by the time Mike Evans called him. And once they saw Jack Cashill, Peter Boyles, etc bring attention to the first 2 bizarre stories, they knew they were going to eventually have to show a BC, and to do that they had to get rid of the person standing in the way. In a single day they “convinced” Mike Evans to change his story and Neal Palafox to resign. But Palafox quietly let the world know there was something rotten in Hawaii… (sort of like a red flag…)

Why wouldn’t he go along with it, when the law allows a new BC to be created at the request of law enforcement? Because the statute says that is only allowable for somebody who was born in Hawaii and has a birth certificate on file. (23) Obama had some kind of birth record on file – something “actually written down” and some kind of supporting evidence that was used to amend his record in late 2006. But the amendment itself rendered the BC non-valid. An altered and/or late BC (filed a year or more after the birth) has no probative value (legal evidentiary value) on its own. Its probative value has to be determined by a judicial or administrative official or body when it is presented as evidence, according to HRS 338-17 (24) Other BC’s are declared by statutes to be prima facie evidence; their claims are legally presumed to be true unless there is evidence to contest their truth. If Obama’s BC had not been late and/or altered, it would have been valid/prima facie evidence and Palafox would have to legally presume that Obama was born in Hawaii as claimed – and a new BC could have been created for him at the request of law enforcement. But with no probative evidence of a Hawaii birth, Palafox could not lawfully approve the creation of a new birth certificate for Obama. The same reality that kept Onaka from being able to verify any of Obama’s birth facts kept Palafox from being able to create a new BC for Obama.

His resistance prompted all 3 of the bizarre events that caused us to shake our heads, and ultimately got the attention of Donald Trump who brought the issue into the limelight.

In the next part we’ll look at how Loretta Fuddy illegally executed the plan and sought to keep anybody from finding out what was done – and how registrar Alvin Onaka fought back.

Summary: Three events are bizarre unless you realize what was going on:

1. Abercrombie claimed an investigation of Obama’s birth record found something actually written down in the State Archives.

2. Mike Evans claimed Abercrombie told him he had gone to the hospitals with a search warrant, and there is no birth certificate or other evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii.

3. When the story of Evans’ claims went viral Abercrombie and AG Louie forced HDOH Director Palafox to resign and lied about it while anonymously threatening to investigate him for medical billing fraud. Three days later Palafox forced them to tell the truth about firing him by saying he didn’t know why he resigned.

I believe Palafox was the snag in the plan to create a new BC for Obama based on law enforcement saying it was necessary to protect Obama from those “crazy Arizona birthers”. Palafox wouldn’t create a new BC for Obama because the only record they had for Obama was non-valid and couldn’t legally be presumed as true, and the law only allows a new BC to be created for someone who was born in Hawaii. So Gov. Abercrombie and AG Louie got rid of Palafox and replaced him with Loretta Fuddy who (as we will see) proceeded to execute the plan – including (among other things) the unlawful shuffling of 4 August 1961 BC#’s in order to land Obama with a BC that claimed a Kapiolani Hospital birth and had the BC# that had been used on the forgery to sanitize Obama’s passport file 3 years earlier: Stig Waidelich’s.

1. Dec 6, 2010 Abercrombie sworn in as governor: http://mauinow.com/2010/12/06/abercrombie-becomes-hawaii%E2%80%99s-7th-elected-governor/
2. Sat, Dec 18 Neal Palafox appointed http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=13914818
3. Fri, Dec 24 NYT article about Dec 23 interview with Abercrombie: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/us/25hawaii.html?_r=0
4. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/24/nation/la-na-obama-birthers-20101224
5. Dec 27, 2010 CNN article: http://web.archive.org/web/20101231145833/http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/27/governor-vows-to-end-birther-controversy/
6. http://ivn.us/2011/08/03/top-democrats-call-tea-party-members-terrorists/
7. http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2011/08/were-all-terrorists-now.html
8. Jan 18 Star-Advertiser columnist: http://web.archive.org/web/20110122055724/http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html
9. WND reports on it http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/252833/
10. Jan 19 article about Abercrombie’s comments to Star-Advertiser columnist: http://web.archive.org/web/20110121200027/http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/19/2011-01-19_record_of_obamas_birth_is_in_the_archives_hawaii_gov.html
11. http://web.archive.org/web/20110120093841/http://www.drudgereport.com/
12. http://web.archive.org/web/20110126081404/http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9KUA4MO1&show_article=1
13. http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/birth-index-includes-nonvalid-records-_documentation-included_.pdf
14. http://www.scribd.com/doc/100808537/Unofficial-Transcript-of-the-MCCP-Press-Conference-July-17-2012
15. http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/amendment-confirmation-for-dummies/
16. http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/tsukiyama-indirect-confirmation-of-evidence-submitte11.pdf
17. Mon, Jan 24 birtherreport article (gives links, etc): http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/hawaii-hollywood-reporter-mike-evans.html
18. http://web.archive.org/web/20110127035044/http:/drudgereport.com/
19. http://web.archive.org/web/20110128073358/http:/www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/
20. https://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/545587/Abercrombie-asked-nominee-to-withdraw.html?nav=5031
21. Jan 26 Fuddy takes over as acting Health Director: http://www.hawaiireporter.com/abercrombie-appoints-health-director/123
22. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=13914818
23. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0007.htm
24. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017.htm

Exhibit A: Mike Evans on KLBJ (Austin, TX)
(Transcribed by me from the Jan 20, 2011 broadcast of “Austin’s Morning News” AKA “Mark, Ed, and Sgt. Sam Show”, at 590KLBJ.com. Starting at 7:45 at http://media.590klbj.com/Podcasts/133/01-20-11-_Hour_2.mp3 ,

Mike Evans: This is a uh, not a Hollywood nugget but is is so important I had to bring it to the table. Former United States Congressman from Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, has been a friend of mine for decades. When I spent time with Neil during the Obama inauguration in Washington, DC, uh, Neil told me that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii. Neil also told me that when he was in college in Hawaii he was a friend of Obama’s dad. And he remembered Barach – he called him Barry – when he was a kid. He’s actually a very good friend of the President. Neil promised that when he became governor he was gonna cut through all the red tape and gonna get Obama’s birth certificate and once and for all end this stupid controversy.

Announcer: Uh-huh.

Evans: Ye, Yesterday I talked to Neil. Said that he searched everywhere using all of his power as governor, looking at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Hospital and Queens Medical Center, where children were born back in that day. And he said, “Mike, there is no Barack Obama cer, birth certificate.”

Announcer: He’s a foreigner! We knew it from the start!

Announcer #2: Well, I thought, I thought the holder of the certificate said it was locked up and she had seen it.

Evans: Well, the governor w, demanded to see it, went to the hospital, sent all of his people, a search warrant, and he could not get it. Uh, there, he’s really good friends to the President but he says, he thinks this could cause some problems during re-election

Announcer: W
Announcer 2: (inaudible)
Announcer: Yeah, that’s why he launched the search. He believes it will harm his re-election effort.

Evans: Yeah. Well, I, but he’s a friend of Barack
Announcer: I know.
Announcer 2: Yes.
Announcer: Hey I think in his h, heart and mind he said, “I’m gonna get this, bring this to a close. We’re gonna…”

Evans: Well, that’s

Announcer: “….fix this.”

Evans: And that’s exactly true, I mean

Announcer: Yeah.

Evans: I man, I’ve known Neil for long (chuckles) long time and he

Announcer: What’s

Evans: really, he’s a left-wing nut. I mean, I love him, but uh, yeah, he was, he was, you’re exactly right. He was hoping this would get rid of this problem and that he would prove that he was born in the United States. Unfortunately it backfired on him.

Announcer: Somebody’s lying.

Evans: Movie news. George Clooney….

END OF TRANSCRIPT

Exhibit B: Mike Evans on KQRS (Minneapolis, MN)
Transcribed by Jemian on freerepublic.com from 1-20-2011 audio on KQS, found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0U_jo2jQE

Audio Recording From 1-18-2011 on KQRS. Recording at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0U_jo2jQE

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:
Mike Evans: I have a personal interest so I thought I’d share it with you. Former U.S. Congressman from Hawaii Neal Abercrombie has been a friend of mine for decades. In fact, when I first met Neal he was driving a cab in Honolulu. Well, Neal and I spent a lot of time together in Washington, D.C. during Obama’s inauguration. Neal told me then that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii, that he had…, that, that he’d had enough of being a U.S. Congressman. He also told me that…stories … he had told me many times after Barack became famous, that he was in college going to the University of Hawaii, he was a friend of Barack Obama’s dad and that he remembers Barack Obama as a little kid. He used to call him “Barry.” In fact, I did a TV interview with, uh, Abercrombie at CSPAN the day after the inauguration and we had to … we had to stop twice because he referred to the President as Barry which he … after he did he said, “I can’t do that, I gotta call him Mr. President.”

Well, when Neal promised me that when he became governor, he was going to cut through all the red tape, he was going to get Obama’s birth certificate once-and-for-all and end this stupid controvery, th.. that he was not born in the United States.

“Yesterday talking in Neal’s office, Neal says that he searched everywhere using his power as governor at the Kapiolani Women’s and Children’s Hospital and Queen’s Hospital, the only place that kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born, … there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Absolutely no proof, at all, that he was born in Hawaii.

Third Speaker: Wow!

Mike Evans: Now he went out, he LOVES Obama. I mean he purposely did this to get rid of that, that question. Now, got some egg in the face. I mean now he admits publically that there is no birth certificate.

Second Speaker: Well,… there might be an addendum to that. There is the story there is a birth announcement. But it’s been explained. His grandparents could called the newspaper and said, ‘Hey! He, we kn…, our grandchild was born. And ah… he didn’t have to be born in Hawaii for that. So its raising the issue again.”

Mike Evans: Absolutely!

Second Speaker: … after it seemed to be put to bed.

Mike Evans: And I asked him, I go, “Well, when do you remember when do you remember Barack? When’s your first memory?” And he goes, ‘I remember him playing, like, in the T-ball league.’ And I go, “Well, when he was, like, five or six.” And he goes, “Something like that.” And I go, “Well, what about before that?” And he goes, “Well, I don’t really remember him much before that.” which I thought was very odd.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Anyway.

Second Speaker: I have a question for you.

Mike Evans: Yeah?

Second Speaker: According to …ah, ah, … federal law, and I don’t know constitution law, but I assume it would be … ah … why is he allowed to be president of the United States then if he can’t prove he is a U.S. citizen?

Mike Evans: Well that’s … that’s…

Second Speaker: Was he born here? That’s the big question. (?/inaudible) That’s weird.

Mike Evans: And now now Abercrombie is the first to say that he he, that Abercrombie is a Obama lover …

Second Speaker: Right

Mike Evans : … that he’s concerned that … that is really going to be an issue during the election, re-election.

Second Speaker: So it has taken off as a, a big story again, huh?

Mike Evans: Yes.

Second Speaker: Well, well, what’s interesting about it is that this guy attacked people who questioned that he was born in Hawaii just a few weeks ago.

Mike Evans: Neal did.

Second Speaker: Yes.

Mike Evans: Yeah, I mean … I’m tellin’ ya’. Neal and I are buddies and during this whole inauguration when I was in Washington for those a ten days, I spent a lot of time with Neal, and anytime anybody would come up and bring this up, you’re right, Neal was almost militant about it. “I remember him as a kid. He’s from Hawaii, born and raised …“ so, needless to say, I’m sure he was shocked more than anybody by this whole thing.

Second Speaker: Don’t you have to produce … papers that say you were

Mike Evans: You’d think so. You’d have to, wouldn’t cha’?

Second Speaker: Well, there’s been a certificate of Live Birth, but that’s being questioned too, because you don’t have to … it’s not the official Birth Certificate.

Mike Evans: There’d have to be one at the hospital, signed by the doctor certifying birth by a … a birth. And there isn’t that.

Second Speaker: You’re kidding me.

Mike Evans: It’s like aaaa… baptism papers. It’s not worth the paper it’s written on, really.
Second Speaker: Well, Mike, how hard would it be to find out what doctors were on then.

Mike Evans: Apparently he can’t find any of that … that says that they were there.

END TRANSCRIPT
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2 posted on 04/05/2013 9:17:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; little jeremiah; ...

Ping to Part Four. If you have a ping list, could you ping for me? Thanks!


3 posted on 04/05/2013 9:19:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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PING!

Thanks!


4 posted on 04/05/2013 9:29:19 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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Sadly, all of this “evidence” will lead to nothing. The radical left wing extremist demokkkrats scumbag socialists will NEVER let anything happen to displace king hussein. We could have a live feed of him molesting a 5 year old little boy and the only reaction would be a shoulder shrug. And nambla would “back” him up since, in this case, it really is “for” the children. He and moochelle antoinette may have been forced to surrender their law licenses but he ain’t gonna be impeached and will be historically remembered as not only the first half-rican American prez but, one of the greatest. Freakin’ bizzaro world huh?


5 posted on 04/05/2013 9:32:29 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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Are you willing to accept that reality? If that’s really where America is at, then America is over.

When Mike Zullo spoke to some influential people at CPAC they said they didn’t know this evidence. I believe they all know Obama is ineligible, but I can believe that they’ve not heard the EVIDENCE because they have staffers who weed out anything from what the media ridicules as “birthers”. We already know the great hero Allen West won’t touch this because he thinks it would end his political career. Any time we give the treasonous media this much power over us we have signed the nation’s death warrant.

But there may be others who recognize just how vulnerable America is, with a nuclear-armed North Korea and Iran, and a foreign enemy combatant in control of our entire government. Ted Cruz comes to mind. Rand Paul. Louie Gohmert. If these people know the overwhelming evidence we’ve got, maybe it will give them the excuse they need, to confront the illegality and unconstitutionality of having someone commanding our military who only got into power through a coup by our 2 sworn enemies: communism and Islamism.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 9:45:46 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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C&P? HDOH? BC #? I’m sorry, I can’t break the code.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 9:55:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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C&P is cut and paste.

HDOH is Hawaii Department of Health

BC# is birth certificate number.

I don’t mean to be unclear. There is so much content to go over that I try to reduce the verbiage as much as possible, but if people can’t figure out those abbreviations I guess we’ll all have to slog through additional verbiage.


8 posted on 04/05/2013 9:59:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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There are certainly some very good people as you mentioned but, I fear the general population is so disconnected and un-informed that they vastly outnumber those of us that cherish this country and all that’s available if you wish to take advantage of the opportunity. It may only be anecdotal, but, some of the “man on the street” interviews are very revealing. The respondents can tell you everything you would ever want to know (or not know) about the cast of Jersey Shore but can’t tell you what the supreme court is supposed to do or what they do. Who or what the speaker of the house is. We pray that the country will come to it’s senses but it is extremely discouraging to see some of the idiotic goings on everyday and the sheeple buying in to it. Sad the nation has been dumbed down to that level. Inner cities are a vast wasteland of gimme, gimme, gimme. No pride in neighborhoods and no real caring about your fellow man. Thankfully I don’t live in any of those places. God bless and keep the nation strong.


9 posted on 04/05/2013 10:13:49 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: butterdezillion

I no longer maintain ping list(s). But thanks for the updates.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 10:18:48 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: butterdezillion
Remember during the first election/steal when Putin was laughing about hussein. Putin knows. The only reason he and other countries aren't speaking up is because they're enjoying the fall of the US. Why our own congress and SCOTUS don't step up is because they have blood on their hands and, as you said about West, they're selfishly too protective of their own political careers.

Frankly, I'm not so sure hussein and his handlers are too secure with Gov. Pothead's loyalty and wonder just how long before he has an overdose. Gov. Pothead can't keep the story straight if he first knew the kid as a baby being shown around socially or at t-ball practice in Hawaii at the same time he was supposedly in Jakarta. Besides, all his “I was there!!!” claims are his and his alone since Sr.’s other close friends state on that site of “Remembrances” that they had no clue about SAD or the bouncing bundle of joy.

Stolen BC. Stolen SS#. Stolen election. Stolen country.

11 posted on 04/05/2013 10:22:39 AM PDT by bgill
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To: rktman

Yeah, I know.

A lot of people won’t care until an EMP hits and they can’t use their cellphone any more. And by then it’ll be too late.

But that’s why we have people who are paid to look out for us. Will the military leadership realize that what Obama did to our guy painting targets on the roof of a complex in Benghazi is exactly the same thing he will do to an America with North Korean and Iranian super-EMP’s positioned to hit us right through a hole in our southern-facing radar? At this point having a foreign enemy combatant in our White House is not just a complex theoretical legal question to be resolved by the courts; it is an existential threat to every person residing on US soil.

At some point these people - the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting us from enemies the average man on the street has no clue about - have to wake up, and have to keep their oaths. This treason could literally get us all killed.


12 posted on 04/05/2013 10:28:23 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: bgill

Yep.

But the stakes are so high now, that those who have the ability to remove Obama have absolutely no excuse to not do so. And in fact, if they don’t do so the blood of a lot of Americans could be on their hands.

We need to let them know that we know this.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 10:31:06 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Anyone hear that Sheriff Joe is going to release info on the BC today?


14 posted on 04/05/2013 10:33:13 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: butterdezillion

Ping


15 posted on 04/05/2013 10:35:10 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

5-7pm Eastern time. It will be live-streamed at http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/audio-zullo-updates-obama-fraud-case.html


16 posted on 04/05/2013 10:40:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion


17 posted on 04/05/2013 11:27:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: butterdezillion

I was just thinking about N. Korea’s increasingly bizarre threats and now the April 10 deadline to certain embassy staff.

And myriad reports came to mind such as the recent firing of so many military generals, the litmus test used on military general as to whether they would fire on American citizens if so ordered. Also other events such as the shoulder shrug reaction to Benghazi, the recent observations on ammo stockpiling (just this morning said to be a myth).

And against this backdrop I asked myself if Obama would have the stones to shrug his shoulders at a N. Korea EMP attack on the USA or anywhere. Then I remembered how he had his minions shove his socialist Obamacare down the throats of legislators who balked at voting it into law, of which many resigned later or did not run again.

And I thought yes, it is possible that Obama and his ring would certainly be inclined to declare Martial Law in the event of a devastating EMP attack where the bulk of the population would be out of touch with each other, unable to communicate and get information.

And I thought would the members in Congress go along with all these possibilities? And I remembered Clinton’s attacks on Belgrade to divert attention from his impeachment, the lack of integrity of General Wesley Clarke and the media participation in concocting an elaborate lie of ethnic cleansing and extermination.

And so each of us must ask CAN IT HAPPEN HERE? CAN THEY REALLY GO SO FAR AS TO SHUT DOWN OUR LIVES AS WE KNOW IT?

If I have no means to get news and developments, I must rely on word of mouth to neighbors. But I have to watch what I say and ask because likely there will be neighborhood watch captains who will report what I say and ask. So this is how we become East Germany before 1991.


18 posted on 04/05/2013 11:31:06 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: butterdezillion
killed Judge John Roll, the federal judge of impeccable integrity who would have heard a DOJ lawsuit if an eligibility bill was signed into law.

There are 15 federal judges in the District of Arizona. Cases are assigned randomly in federal court. So, had a lawsuit been filed, there was only a 1-in-15 chance that it would have been heard by Roll.

19 posted on 04/05/2013 11:47:11 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t argue with anything you just posted.

What people need to realize is that the time to stand up is BEFORE you’ve been hit with an EMP. It requires an act of faith that will certainly be called a “crazy conspiracy” by the treasonous media.

The only way Noah had an ark ready is because he started building BEFORE the rain started. Everybody thought he was crazy, I’m sure. (cue the Bill Cosby audio...) If he hadn’t been willing to be called crazy, the whole human race would have become extinct.

People with their eyes open HAVE to realize how precarious our situation is here in the USA. At this point our enemies have been so strengthened, emboldened, and strategically assisted - and own defenses so compromised - that Obama’s occupation or our White House is literally an existential threat to every person living in this country.

It doesn’t get any more critical than this.


20 posted on 04/05/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Randomly assigned, like Clinton’s “Magnificent Seven” randomly assigned cases - at a private monthly meeting where they all chose who would get which cases to cover Clinton’s behind?

One of those “Magnificent Seven” was Judge Robertson, who tried to hit Hemenway with a penalty for filing a frivolous lawsuit, when everybody knew that the case had already been tried through Twitter.

Judge Roll was the one judge Holder had to worry about. Roll had angered both conservatives and liberals with his rulings; he was not owned by either side. His arguments relied on the law and Constitution, not political pressure. Even when he had to have a bodyguard because of it, he was willing to make unpopular decisions. And as I understand it, he had ruled against Obama on the ability to confiscate money and put it in private accounts.

But of course, it was just an accident that Judge Roll was shot in the aorta and died within 7 seconds. He had just happened to stop by on his way walking home from mass, according to Sheriff Dupnik - even though the reason the FBI was able to be involved in the case was because Roll was carrying out pre-arranged discussion involving official business - pre-arranged because of a phone call he received before Saturday, alerting him that Giffords would be having this event. At least that’s what the FBI officer said in the official charges against Jared Loughner. So the FBI and Dupnik have contradictory statements, but of course that is just an accident too...

We know that because Jared Loughner, who was so concerned about the corrupt government spying on him and whose defense had to do with schizophrenia and how he just “snapped” because of the schizophrenia, still wrote out “I planned ahead” “Giffords” and “assassination” on an envelope with his signature, that he put in a safe in his parents’ house just in case somebody wondered who he really meant to kill...

But in all seriousness, the Judge Roll issue is (at this point) a side issue. The fact of the matter is that a violent attack took place and suddenly EVERYBODY was blaming the “vitriol” of conservatives rather than schizophrenia. And that provided the PERFECT excuse for law enforcement to claim Obama needed a new BC in order to be safe. Especially since - as Abercrombie told Evans - there was at that point no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. According to Fukino’s HDOH, there was a BC amended in late 2006 - vital recordS (plural) that were half written and half typed, and according to the OIP, affidavits and/or other evidence filed in support of the claims made (IOW this was a late, altered BC - legally non-valid). And Abercrombie said that was going to be a legal problem because of the eligibility bills pending in places like Arizona. Abercrombie acknowledged that they had a problem there, with the sketchy documentation for Obama.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 12:18:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Hostage

When I think at how devastating and huge an EMP attack would be, I ask whether Obama would be willing to give all that up. I’ve wondered if his wife and kids are taking so many vacations because they have stuff they want to do while they still can.

Somebody mentioned in another thread the possibility of a neutron bomb, which kills people but not the infrastructure. The idea was that if China, Russia, etc were going to destroy the US they would want to leave it habitable because it is such prime real estate. And the thought occurred to me: once the people of America were killed off through starvation, chaos, etc, the communists/Islamists could come in with cities etc still intact and most of the bodies buried by DHS. And they could set up their own new electronics, grids, etc where the fried ones had been, and carry on.

And as long as Obama and his family have a nice bunker to stay in for that year or so while DHS is doing clean-up of the dead bodies, they could be fine. They’d still have ski resorts they could go to, fine dining, etc. They’d just have to make it through the extermination of the Americans first. A little delay...

Would these people be capable of this?

I think they would. I think it’s what they’ve been wanting to do for a long time.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 12:25:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
How is it we know Jared Loughner wasn't actually successfully executing a hit on Judge Roll?

"Palafox publicly stated he had no idea why he had resigned." That's awfully curious, isn't it? Is he saying he's so out of touch with his motivations that he can't begin to identify them when asked? Or are we just supposed to realize that he's called attention to what should be a big red flag, saying he was forced to resign without there actually being any investigation or hint of impropriety on his part? Palafox's honor seems nonetheless compromised for not doing a full whistleblowing. OTOH, perhaps his employment contract makes that impossible.

Does justice in Hawai'i not have any legal friends in high places?

HF

23 posted on 04/05/2013 2:20:17 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: butterdezillion
Randomly assigned, like Clinton’s “Magnificent Seven” randomly assigned cases - at a private monthly meeting where they all chose who would get which cases to cover Clinton’s behind?

OK, so your theory is that (1) there was only a 1-in-15 chance that Roll would get the case (assuming that there ever was a case, which in fact there never was), (2) Roll was the only 1 of the 15 Obama was worried about, (3) but Roll actually didn't even have that 1-in-15 chance because the random selection is fixed anyway, but (4) Obama nonetheless had Roll murdered because....?

24 posted on 04/05/2013 3:10:39 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: butterdezillion

agree, and thanks for all the work and sticking your neck out doing it!


25 posted on 04/05/2013 3:14:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: butterdezillion

Just one thing Butter, the “wrong” BC#(10641) on the COLB was first revealed by Fact-Check photos back on August 21, 2008.

They (Obama/Hawaii??) were doing things with the numbers before he was even elected. Obama didn’t control law enforcement at that point. So how did Obama get that number to begin with?

The law enforcement excuse would only work, if they decided that since Obama had already stolen Stigs number and if that information was made public he would be in danger.

Kind of like a crime to cover the crime.


26 posted on 04/05/2013 3:22:00 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: butterdezillion

A mystery wraped up in a inigma.


27 posted on 04/05/2013 3:45:23 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: butterdezillion
A mystery wraped up in a inigma.

Logical conclusion.

Remember the old saying ? " If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull crap. "

Now, in that frame of mind: A mystery wraped up in a inigma... i.e. it's all bull crap, and more of it.
28 posted on 04/05/2013 3:48:48 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: holden

We really don’t know who Loughner’s intended target was. The end result, though, was that a judge who had shown remarkable integrity was dead, replaced by someone of Obama’s choosing, and the whole world was talking about how dangerous conservatives are and how likely to kill elected officials...

Abercrombie’s office acknowledged that they had forced Palafox to resign, 3 days after they said they hadn’t asked him to resign. And that whole time AG Louie remained coyly silent on whether or not there was an investigation of a crime or not. It was not very subtle at all.

Right now I think true justice has few friends ANYWHERE within the government. Nebraska is a sad, sad joke, I’ve found. And corruption is rampant in Hawaii as well.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 4:47:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I’m not stating any theory about Judge Roll.

I AM saying that he was killed, and the shooting that killed him resulted in a lot of talk about how dangerous conservatives are, and how elected officials have to be protected from them.

Which played right into the plan for getting Obama a new, LE-dictated BC that claimed a Kapiolani birth - unlike the original written report of Obama’s birth which was amended with affidavits and/or other evidence, to which Fukino, Abercrombie, and OIP Director Tsukiyama have all referred in their public statements.


30 posted on 04/05/2013 4:52:03 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Smokeyblue

It was a crime to cover the crime.

The “Factcheck” photos actually had exif data showing they were taken in March of 2008, just a couple days before the last of the 3 breaches of Obama’s passport file. That BC# was chosen when they were working to sanitize Obama’s passport record.


31 posted on 04/05/2013 4:54:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: bgill

And a forged selective service registration.

FORGED

FALSIFIED

Speaks volumes about where his loyalties lie.

They don’t lie with the armed forces of this nation, who, down through history have bled and DIED to preserve our freedoms.

I will stop at this, lest I say more.....


32 posted on 04/05/2013 5:10:26 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: butterdezillion; MestaMachine; thouworm; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; dragonblustar; jersey117; ...
*

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Ping to Part Four.

Three events that made no sense at the time now make sense.

Summary: Three events are bizarre unless you realize what was going on:

1. Abercrombie claimed an investigation of Obama’s birth record found something actually written down in the State Archives.

2. Mike Evans claimed Abercrombie told him he had gone to the hospitals with a search warrant, and there is no birth certificate or other evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii.

3. When the story of Evans’ claims went viral Abercrombie and AG Louie forced HDOH Director Palafox to resign and lied about it while anonymously threatening to investigate him for medical billing fraud. Three days later Palafox forced them to tell the truth about firing him by saying he didn’t know why he resigned.

"I believe Palafox was the snag in the plan to create a new BC for Obama based on law enforcement saying it was necessary to protect Obama from those “crazy Arizona birthers”. ... Palafox wouldn’t create a new BC for Obama because the only record they had for Obama was non-valid and couldn’t legally be presumed as true, and the law only allows a new BC to be created for someone who was born in Hawaii.

"So Gov. Abercrombie and AG Louie got rid of Palafox and replaced him with Loretta Fuddy who (as we will see) proceeded to execute the plan – including (among other things) the unlawful shuffling of 4 August 1961 BC#’s in order to land Obama with a BC that claimed a Kapiolani Hospital birth and had the BC# that had been used on the forgery to sanitize Obama’s passport file 3 years earlier: Stig Waidelich’s."

Check out report at # 2.

Thanks, butterdezillion.

33 posted on 04/05/2013 5:16:47 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion; All
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What people need to realize is that the time to stand up is BEFORE you’ve been hit with an EMP. It requires an act of faith that will certainly be called a “crazy conspiracy” by the treasonous media.

The only way Noah had an ark ready is because he started building BEFORE the rain started. Everybody thought he was crazy, I’m sure. (cue the Bill Cosby audio...) If he hadn’t been willing to be called crazy, the whole human race would have become extinct.

People with their eyes open HAVE to realize how precarious our situation is here in the USA. At this point our enemies have been so strengthened, emboldened, and strategically assisted - and own defenses so compromised - that Obama’s occupation or our White House is literally an existential threat to every person living in this country.

It doesn’t get any more critical than this.

20 posted on Friday, April 05, 2013 12:58:35 PM by butterdezillion (,)

34 posted on 04/05/2013 5:22:11 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT

I don’t have a Ping list, but I certainly appreciate the ones I get from you two. God bless you both.


35 posted on 04/05/2013 5:28:44 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for pinging, Lucy.


36 posted on 04/05/2013 5:32:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Ok. Thanks.

That’s why it’s a criminal conspiracy for all involved.

1) Commit crimes that get you the keys unlock the bank safe to rob.

2) Pass a law that you can cover up crimes for safety reason. Because if people found out you were robbing them you’d be in fear for your life.

3) Continue robbing bank for years on end.


37 posted on 04/05/2013 5:33:20 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: butterdezillion

Excellent.

I have had no time for FR I have time for readying your articles. IMHO whatever they have on file for one BHO has a DOB in January instead of August and a different mother.

And the BHO referred to in said documnent is not the guy in the WH.


38 posted on 04/05/2013 5:43:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: muir_redwoods
I’m sorry, I can’t break the code.

Are you serious?
39 posted on 04/05/2013 5:43:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion
Are you willing to accept that reality? If that’s really where America is at, then America is over.

When Mike Zullo spoke to some influential people at CPAC they said they didn’t know this evidence. I believe they all know Obama is ineligible, but I can believe that they’ve not heard the EVIDENCE because they have staffers who weed out anything from what the media ridicules as “birthers”. We already know the great hero Allen West won’t touch this because he thinks it would end his political career. Any time we give the treasonous media this much power over us we have signed the nation’s death warrant.

But there may be others who recognize just how vulnerable America is, with a nuclear-armed North Korea and Iran, and a foreign enemy combatant in control of our entire government. Ted Cruz comes to mind. Rand Paul. Louie Gohmert. If these people know the overwhelming evidence we’ve got, maybe it will give them the excuse they need, to confront the illegality and unconstitutionality of having someone commanding our military who only got into power through a coup by our 2 sworn enemies: communism and Islamism.

YES! And, btw, Allen West is dead to me.

40 posted on 04/05/2013 5:47:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer
Yeah, HDOH is not obvious. A basic rule of style is to explain non-obvious acronyms the first time they are used. Happy to education you.
41 posted on 04/05/2013 5:49:55 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: butterdezillion

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You’re welcome, butterdezillion.


42 posted on 04/05/2013 5:58:44 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion

Lucy, thanks for the ping.

Butter, thanks so much for that intrepid investigator that lives within you.


43 posted on 04/05/2013 6:02:36 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: muir_redwoods
Yeah, HDOH is not obvious.

If you're dense, then Google is your friend.

goo·gle

verb /ˈgo͞ogəl/
googled, past participle; googled, past tense; googles, 3rd person singular present; googling, present participle

1.Use an Internet search engine, particularly Google.com
- she spent the afternoon googling aimlessly

2.Search for information about (someone or something) on the Internet
- I recently googled my 7th grade teacher and found his current e-mail address
44 posted on 04/05/2013 6:06:51 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion

IIRC, Abercrombie is a far-left progressive closely aligned with Pelosi. To me, Evans appears to have spent several days showing up on radio programs reading a script all over the country acting on direct instructions from Abercrombie.

Abercrombie’s motive in sending Evans out to do this could be blackmail, perhaps to force Barry to shower some $$$ on Hawaii or on some of Abercrombie or Pelosi’s backers that Barry was holding back on.

Suddenly Evans changes his story. That would be after Barry gives in.

The conclusion of the blackmail agreement could also include getting Barry’s cooperation in forging the LFBC and inserting the forged BC in the HI DOH archive so as to give cover to Hawaii’s complicity in providing the minimal verification of Barry’s vital records prior to the crisis that winter. At that time, even Chris Matthews got two progressives, David Corn and the black Chicago columnist to all agree that Barry “should just show the BC.”

Abercrombie’s and Barry’s attorneys would likely have negotiated mutually supporting defenses against future discovery that might be ordered in lawsuits to keep Barry off the ballot.

Layers of legal defense that would permit “plausible deniability” were built into the “release” of the LFBC image. These layers would included flying Barry’s personal lawyer to HI to witness the copying and certification and then personally transporting the BC back to DC...where Barry would NEVER be allowed to actually be seen holding the “original” copy.

I don’t personally believe that HI DOH forged the BC. That would be left to operatives that both Abercrombie and Barry would deny any association with. Even Okubo didn’t actually sign the BC but rather a signature stamp was used. “Plausible deniability” and another legal layer of defense.

They only had to tie up the legal process first until after the 2012 election and then until after Barry leaves office.


45 posted on 04/05/2013 6:11:55 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: muir_redwoods

IIRC
LFBC
$$$
BC back to DC...
46 posted on 04/05/2013 6:28:32 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I’m not the least bit dense. It’s the posters job to observe the standard rules of style. I’m sure that’s news to you.


47 posted on 04/05/2013 6:43:36 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods; Brown Deer

And I knew that but needed to be reminded. It doesn’t have to be burdensome; I just need to remember to put the full meaning the first time and say what abbreviation I’ll be using for it in the rest of the article. I apologize and thank you for the heads-up. Any input that helps me make the content more understandable is earnestly desired, so thank you for letting me know.

I did initially think it was weird that you didn’t recognize those acronyms but I’ve been so close to this issue for so long that I don’t even realize what terms might not be familiar to normal people.

Brown Deer, you’re not normal. You’re extraordinary. =)


48 posted on 04/05/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Seizethecarp

The HDOH does have a stamp with a certifying statement showing TXE instead of THE. And we do know that they forged Sunahara’s death certificate and Johanna Ah Nee’s birth certificate - and put in blatant red flags. So we know somebody at the HDOH is putting in red flags to protest having to make these forgeries. The TXE in the certifying statement and the smiley face in the signature are red flags in everything that had to do with Onaka’s certification of the document. It looks to me like they gave Obama’s BC the same treatment as they had given the Ah Nee and Sunahara forgeries.

And it even seems like the red flags in Obama’s BC were carried out to more extremes in the later forgeries. For instance, the Obama people had to use a different layer for the last digit of Obama’s BC#. Possibly because the HDOH did something goofy to that digit. Later on they did something goofy with Ah Nee’s BC# digits - made them overlapping. They also screwed up Onaka’s signature in the Ah Nee forgery - sort of like Onaka’s signature had the smiley face added in the Obama BC. Obama’s BC had the BC# and Onaka signature screwed up; so did Ah Nee’s.

At first I thought maybe they gave the HDOH a copy of the forgery that they had inserted into the passport file. And maybe they did, so that the passport BC would match the HDOH BC, in case anybody got discovery. And maybe they did. But if so, some things were either added or changed by the HDOH, or else they would not have needed to do the layers, use non-HDOH security paper, put an indistinct seal on it, or any of the other stuff.

I don’t think Abercrombie would tell Mike Evans to say the things he did. Abercrombie looks like a fool and a liar, for saying he only saw Obama when he was T-ball age after having claimed so emphatically that he may be the only one who could say that he saw Ann and Barack with the baby in Hawaii. I think what happened was Abercrombie assumed that his friend Evans would realize that what he said was not for public consumption, but Evans is an honest soul who never dreamed that his friend would try to cover up an illegal usurpation and so saw no reason to hide what was said. He acted like this would just be “egg on his (Abercrombie’s) face” - not that it would be a life-and-death thing that the HDOH and everybody else in the system would commit crimes to cover up.


49 posted on 04/05/2013 7:20:09 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Well done, butterdezillion. I admire you for your tenacious research and unwavering dedication to finding the truth. May God continue to give you strength and courage, and may all that has been hidden be revealed.


50 posted on 04/05/2013 7:34:38 PM PDT by Faith
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