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Ben Carson takes on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on the definition of "Marriage"
Daily Caller ^ | 3/29/13 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 03/29/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by Nachum

On Sean Hannity’s Fox News program earlier this week, Dr. Ben Carson, the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, offered his view on the hot-button issue of the week, same-sex marriage.

According to Carson, marriage is defined as between one man and one woman, what he called a “well-established, fundamental pillar of society.” And Carson said this institution could not be redefined by any group, including proponents of bestiality and pedophilia.

Invoking those groups drew the ire of many, but Carson went on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” to clarify his remarks, which he apologized to those who took offense.

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1 posted on 03/29/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Invoking those groups drew the ire of many

Of course it did; but, how do you stop it if you redefine it to include gays? What legal grounds do you have to restrict marriage for any group that wants it to be redefined to include them. Group marriage proponents are already getting their suits together to file so that they, too, can be recognized as married.

Once it is redefined, it loses all meaning and it is gone. Once redefined, it will continue to be redefined until it loses all meaning; which, btw, is the whole purpose of this exercise.

2 posted on 03/29/2013 2:17:32 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Nachum
I really don't think it is particularly intelligent to identify homosexuality with pedophilia or bestiality.

The obvious liberal counterarguments to this are:

1. There is no informed consent with pedophilia or bestiality, but presumably there can be between two homosexuals, and
2. Yeech!

When arguing the slippery slope position against homosexuality conservatives should stick to polygamy, and maybe incest between two adult family members. That is horrendous enough for most Americans to consider, and isn't open to the obvious liberal counterarguments.

3 posted on 03/29/2013 2:21:27 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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So let me bend your noodles with this idea.

Suppose that I decide to "marry" another straight man--and we don't even bother to lie/pretend that we are gay. Who would deny us this "right?"

If two gay men can get married to each other, why can't two straight do the same thing? Or are we now going to discriminate against straight people?

4 posted on 03/29/2013 2:22:17 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Nachum
Here's WHY Liberals think Gay marriage is OK...not complicated........

Liberal Men are Feminine and Liberal Women are Masculine sooooooo.....they think their Roles are INTERCHANGABLE.

5 posted on 03/29/2013 2:25:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Nachum

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/29/ben-carson-takes-on-msnbcs-andrea-mitchell-on-the-definition-of-marriage/
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Strange,
I tried 3 different browsers,
firefox, internet explorer, and safari,
but none of them would run that video.


6 posted on 03/29/2013 2:27:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Are you kidding??/ NAMBLA...North American Man BOY LOVE ASSOCIATION is an arm of the Democrat machine and they say that the “LOVE” is reciprical!!!


7 posted on 03/29/2013 2:28:26 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
I'm sure your "arguments" fare very well on this site with our fellow conservatives who agree with us.

They don't fare well with the rest of the population.

NAMBLA is not an "arm of the Democrat machine". They are by-and-large an embarrassment. Just like the Tea Party is an ongoing embarrassment to the RINO Republicans in DC.

8 posted on 03/29/2013 2:31:49 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You’ve got to be kidding.....name ONE Democrat embarrassed by them?? ONE.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 2:33:19 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Lysandru
...and be up front and open that its just for the medical benefits.

There's probably a bunch of things that people can get from partnerships that are cheaper if they do it as a "marriage" rather than as a limited S-Corp or similar business entity.

Imagine if in future polygamy is allowed. Then bunches of people will get "married" as large groups to save on insurance, make it easier and cheaper to grant each other power of attorney, etc.

The whole idea of being incorporated might fade away and be replaced with "marriages" that save people considerable attorney's fees.

10 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:05 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The obvious liberal counterarguments to this are: 1. There is no informed consent with pedophilia or bestiality, but presumably there can be between two homosexuals, and 2. Yeech! When arguing the slippery slope position against homosexuality conservatives should stick to polygamy, and maybe incest between two adult family members. That is horrendous enough for most Americans to consider, and isn't open to the obvious liberal counterarguments. Maybe ar Pro gay marriage rallies we should get some freepers to go over the homosexual side and hold signs that read "I wanna marry my " Just to poison the well so to speak! Bonus points for a getting your non-related spouse to have a sign saying "I want to marry by Brother" with an arrow pointing to you and you holding a sign reading "I want to marry my Sister" with an arrow pointing to her! The whole consenting adults things totally ignores gross incest!!!
11 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:16 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The obvious liberal counterarguments to this are: 1. There is no informed consent with pedophilia or bestiality, but presumably there can be between two homosexuals, and 2. Yeech! When arguing the slippery slope position against homosexuality conservatives should stick to polygamy, and maybe incest between two adult family members. That is horrendous enough for most Americans to consider, and isn't open to the obvious liberal counterarguments. Maybe ar Pro gay marriage rallies we should get some freepers to go over the homosexual side and hold signs that read "I wanna marry my " Just to poison the well so to speak! Bonus points for a getting your non-related spouse to have a sign saying "I want to marry by Brother" with an arrow pointing to you and you holding a sign reading "I want to marry my Sister" with an arrow pointing to her! The whole consenting adults things totally ignores gross incest!!!
12 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:34 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Lysandru

Many women and men have gotten married for reasons other than love, lust, or a desire for procreation. If we have some kind of change in the current law defining marriage as man/woman, I don’t see how the powers that be can prevent that caveat from also taking effect.

Next up—polygamy and incest/marriage between blood relatives.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 2:37:36 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

The obvious liberal counterarguments to this are:

1. There is no informed consent with pedophilia or bestiality, but presumably there can be between two homosexuals, and
2. Yeech!

When arguing the slippery slope position against homosexuality conservatives should stick to polygamy, and maybe incest between two adult family members. That is horrendous enough for most Americans to consider, and isn’t open to the obvious liberal counterarguments.

Maybe ar Pro gay marriage rallies we should get some freepers to go over the homosexual side and hold signs that read “I wanna marry my (relative name here) “

Just to poison the well so to speak!

Bonus points for a getting your non-related spouse to have a sign saying “I want to marry by Brother” with an arrow pointing to you and you holding a sign reading “I want to marry my Sister” with an arrow pointing to her!

The whole consenting adults things totally ignores gross incest!!!

(sorry for the re-post had to fix the formatting)


14 posted on 03/29/2013 2:38:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Nachum

Man I can’t stand to listen to that snarky, condescending Be-atch!


15 posted on 03/29/2013 2:38:58 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (Welcome to the new America.)
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To: Lysandru

Doesn’t a marriage need to be consummated?
Oh for the good old days when we understood what that meant.


16 posted on 03/29/2013 2:41:45 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ann Archy
Much of the entire LGBT "community" opposes NAMBLA:

Fags & Lezzes Oppose Pedophiles

Of course you can read that and continue to believe otherwise. You might think that secretly the fags and lezbos support NAMBLA and they're only pretending to oppose them.

Maybe it's all one big conspiracy led by the disembodied wired-up head of Gramsci floating in amniotic fluid and giving directions to his socialist minions.

17 posted on 03/29/2013 2:43:05 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

That is the problem when we commingle the state with religion. The state recognizes the covenant I made with my wife before God. The state did not convey that status on us.

The state should not be in the marriage business, period.


18 posted on 03/29/2013 2:46:36 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Lysandru

Actually your scenario is not that far out there.

Suppose your neighbor is single and works somewhere with excellent health insurance.

Support you get cancer and have no health insurance.

Suddenly your neighbor looks very handsome and for the right fee, he will “marry” you so you get his health insurance.

You can always get a divorce after.

Don’t think this will happen?

Got a bridge to sell you...cheap.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 2:46:50 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Nachum
It is amazing how quickly one goes to the bigot card. Since I don't agree that two men involved in sodomy or two women involved in mutual masturbation is equal to the type of relationship that I have with my wife.

By the way our union has produced produced four, soon to be five, new completely unique humans. BTW none where exactly planned and the last one, due April 17th was completely unexpected.

Name ONE gay relationship that has naturally produced any. What benefit to society are the sodomites relationship?

20 posted on 03/29/2013 2:47:00 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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