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You're In the New Army Now
Sultan Knish ^ | 26 Jan 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/27/2013 5:03:43 AM PST by expat1000

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Wow - again.
1 posted on 01/27/2013 5:03:45 AM PST by expat1000
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2 posted on 01/27/2013 5:06:13 AM PST by expat1000
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This is full of hyperbole, just utter nonsense.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 5:09:48 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Everyone is entitled to an opinion; for now.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 5:40:18 AM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Everyone is entitled to an opinion; for now.


5 posted on 01/27/2013 5:40:18 AM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Everyone is entitled to an opinion; for now.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 5:40:35 AM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: Future Snake Eater

This is more accurate than not.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 5:44:37 AM PST by jcb2009 ((I can't tell who the Chi-Coms are anymore))
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To: expat1000
zero's for muslims, 'cause he IS one,
n' zero's for faggots 'cause he IS one,
n' zero's for women 'cause he IS one,
n' zero's for death 'cause he IS.

Just ask the flies buzzing around him and the mice that flee from a sinking ship.

8 posted on 01/27/2013 5:49:06 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Odd, I found it insightful - a prescient look at our new softer, gentler military and military policy.

When the powerful are pansies, the power is pansified.

Some may call it hyperbole - others may call it prophetic.

9 posted on 01/27/2013 5:57:44 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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To: expat1000

The new Army: This is your weapon, this is your gun, one is for fighting the other, your mate’s bum


10 posted on 01/27/2013 6:03:46 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Future Snake Eater
This is full of hyperbole, just utter nonsense.

Easy to state an opinion - takes a few more cells to back it up. Kindly share your wisdom with us so we don't keep following the "idiot" who writes this stuff. Or better yet, start writing your own versions of whatever he puts out so we can compare notes.

11 posted on 01/27/2013 6:08:55 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: expat1000

Spot on.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 6:09:02 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

He describes the feminasation of our military. It is complete.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 6:28:29 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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He presents an image of the military that fits with a few loose stories here and there that you all want to believe simply b/c Obama is in charge. Fags still have to pull their weight. Chicks are in for a rude surprise. The yammering about how our Soldiers behave in Iraq and Afghanistan is obviously taking briefings from the field grade princes and flag officers in BIAP and BAF and applying it to the trigger-pullers on patrol. I doubt they would've approved of some of my Soldiers beating the crap out of a couple of dudes they found in an alley in Mosul getting it on one night, but they did. Oh well.

Few here seem to understand that we're not automatons. We receive a mission, we make a plan, we execute it. As long as it's within the framework of the commander's intent, we have broad latitude to accomplish the mission. Sometimes people get killed in those missions. It's been that way for millenia. Soldiering is a dangerous job. To denigrate these particular deaths as being for some "international humanitarian" purpose as opposed to Soldiers executing a specific tactical mission and receiving enemy contact in the course of it is just stupid. Especially since it's born of a hatred of the CinC and his buddies.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 6:39:04 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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I see by your page that you are a Capt in the Army - God Bless for your service. I spent 24 years in AF (1974-1998) and have seen the long-term erosion of the military due to the social experiments that are pushed via the military. Many are true Patriots and Professionals, but we have been slowly infused with Leftists who are more apt to follow the paradigm of what Greenfield wrote. I don’t think the tipping point has been reached, but i am still with the DOD and was talking with an E-6 the other day who wondered what the military would do if ordered to fire on Americans to enforce something like gun confiscation - I told him he should be able to figure it out for himself - he was among those who might be called to commit such atrocities and that he had to weigh it against his oath to the Constitution and what he knew was right. The fact that good men and women even wonder a little bit about such stuff is reason to worry about what has been done to the military institution. I went through my career knowing that I would never follow such illegal orders and that those around me were either of the same mind or were very aware that they would likely be put down by their own if they were to stray in such directions.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 7:01:04 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: expat1000

The US actually has a military need, but not for world class soldiers and equipment, which we already have.

What we need is a low end light infantry, to do duties like peacekeeping and disaster relief. They would be supported by, and have their transportation provided by, the US military. It is just too expensive to use our regular personnel for “minimum wage, long term” missions.

A billion dollars a month, when you only need to spend 10 million, is just not cost effective. Likewise, it lowers the combat readiness of our military, which is dangerously expensive. You do not use highly trained professionals to do guard duty for three years, as we are doing today.

Importantly, this is a military type unit, if not organic to the US military, so certain rules would apply.

The first of these is that would be a uniformed paramilitary, who could not be legally quartered in the US or allowed to travel here as such. This eliminates the very real risk of a posse comitatus violation, a corrupt government trying to use them against the people.

They would be led by regular officers and senior NCOs from the US military. However, being offshore, they could recruit both US citizens and non-US citizens, willing to work for room, board, medical and dental, and a wage.

Likewise they would be under private contract with the US government, so if they were ordered to do something wrong or disastrous, they could refuse.

In any event, they would only be equipped with some small arms, not for serious combat, but just for a little self defense if needed. They would only enter foreign countries with bilateral agreements not to prosecute or extradite to the ICC those under US auspices.

The cost savings of doing this for a few missions might add up to enough money to buy an aircraft carrier, or at least retain an awful lot of soldiers who would otherwise be booted out.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 7:08:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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The fact that good men and women even wonder a little bit about such stuff is reason to worry about what has been done to the military institution.

I wouldn't worry about it. Some will, some won't. The fact that he's asking the question is a good sign, I think.

Still, it's ridiculous for anyone in authority to think that they will have the military locked down to the point where they can count on unquestionable loyalty in the face of such orders. Like I said in a similar discussion, if the Soviet military fell apart on such orders, how could ours possibly be expected to go along with it?

17 posted on 01/27/2013 7:16:02 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Still, it's ridiculous for anyone in authority to think that they will have the military locked down to the point where they can count on unquestionable loyalty in the face of such orders. Like I said in a similar discussion, if the Soviet military fell apart on such orders, how could ours possibly be expected to go along with it?

I agree that they would be in for a big surprise - I also believe that their egos are big enough that they might actually believe it. Especially with all the political animals being put in the positions that were once reserved for warriors.

18 posted on 01/27/2013 7:19:24 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: expat1000

SFL


19 posted on 01/27/2013 7:20:22 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: RFEngineer; Future Snake Eater
Our military has been wrecked on purpose by traitors who want to see us destroyed in the next "real" war. (Not a drone war fought from air-conditioned containers from 5,000 miles away.)


20 posted on 01/27/2013 7:35:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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