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To: trebb
He presents an image of the military that fits with a few loose stories here and there that you all want to believe simply b/c Obama is in charge. Fags still have to pull their weight. Chicks are in for a rude surprise. The yammering about how our Soldiers behave in Iraq and Afghanistan is obviously taking briefings from the field grade princes and flag officers in BIAP and BAF and applying it to the trigger-pullers on patrol. I doubt they would've approved of some of my Soldiers beating the crap out of a couple of dudes they found in an alley in Mosul getting it on one night, but they did. Oh well.

Few here seem to understand that we're not automatons. We receive a mission, we make a plan, we execute it. As long as it's within the framework of the commander's intent, we have broad latitude to accomplish the mission. Sometimes people get killed in those missions. It's been that way for millenia. Soldiering is a dangerous job. To denigrate these particular deaths as being for some "international humanitarian" purpose as opposed to Soldiers executing a specific tactical mission and receiving enemy contact in the course of it is just stupid. Especially since it's born of a hatred of the CinC and his buddies.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 6:39:04 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I see by your page that you are a Capt in the Army - God Bless for your service. I spent 24 years in AF (1974-1998) and have seen the long-term erosion of the military due to the social experiments that are pushed via the military. Many are true Patriots and Professionals, but we have been slowly infused with Leftists who are more apt to follow the paradigm of what Greenfield wrote. I don’t think the tipping point has been reached, but i am still with the DOD and was talking with an E-6 the other day who wondered what the military would do if ordered to fire on Americans to enforce something like gun confiscation - I told him he should be able to figure it out for himself - he was among those who might be called to commit such atrocities and that he had to weigh it against his oath to the Constitution and what he knew was right. The fact that good men and women even wonder a little bit about such stuff is reason to worry about what has been done to the military institution. I went through my career knowing that I would never follow such illegal orders and that those around me were either of the same mind or were very aware that they would likely be put down by their own if they were to stray in such directions.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 7:01:04 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Future Snake Eater; trebb

I thank you both for your service and for your perspective.


24 posted on 01/27/2013 8:23:48 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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