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30 Shotguns and Pistols, Ammunition; found hidden in wall for fear of gun bans in UK
Gun Watch ^ | 26 January, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/25/2013 6:03:59 PM PST by marktwain

Edited on 01/26/2013 7:41:02 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A secret arsenal of guns and ammunition hidden in the wake of the Dunblane massacre have been found stashed behind a false wall by a builder renovating a house.

Builder Simon Berni, 41, was shocked to discover a secret haul of more than 30 shotguns and pistols as well as hundreds of rounds of ammunition when he began working on a south Wales property.

He said: 'It was an incredible arsenal - full, absolutely choc-a-bloc with eight shelves of fire arms and ammunition.'

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The guns were wrapped in newspaper dated March 1996 - just days after the Dunblane massacre in which 16 children were shot dead.

Police believe the guns were unregistered and their owner hid them out of fear of losing them when strict new firearms laws were brought in following the Dunblane shootings.

More at dailymail.co.uk here

This is the result that President Obama and the "Progressives" want. They do not want to go door to door confiscating guns. They just want to make them illegal so that 40 years from now, when your nephew finds them, he will be "shocked" and will dutifully turn them in to police; terrified that he might somehow be held responsible for their presence.

It is not the guns they hate. They enjoy having people under their personal direction, such as their personal bodyguards, or if politicians, police and military that they direct, having lots of guns.

They just do not want *you* to have them. They "only" want them to be illegal so that they can gradually destroy the Gun Culture and the spirit of independence that it supports. They hate and detest the idea that the government serves at your pleasure, and not you at their pleasure.

That is what civilian disarmament is all about.

Dean Weingarten

Link to dailymail.co.uk here


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunban; guncontrol; hidden; secondamendment; uk
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This is the trap that we are being pushed towards. People are saying "When they come for my guns, I will fight!"

Fine words, strong words, except they will not do it that way, and if they do, the place to fight is not your home!

1 posted on 01/25/2013 6:04:02 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Bump


2 posted on 01/25/2013 6:07:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: marktwain

Nobody wants to fight and I pray it doesn’t come to it.

Perhaps if we shout enough right now it won’t come to a shooting fight.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 6:08:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I would rather have a two-way shooting fight now or soon than face the alternative unarmed.

Of course, I'd prefer that the far left defer to the Constitution so that we can remain at peace. The problem is that peace seems disturbingly unlikely as socialists infringe on an increasingly broad range of fundamental God-given and constitutionally guaranteed human rights.

4 posted on 01/25/2013 6:18:01 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: marktwain

Exactly right.

When they show up they will be wearing a jacket and tie.

“Excuse me, ma’am, is your husband at home? We want to double-check our records for the guns he purchased several years ago. He’s not here? Would you mind coming with us, ma’am? You can clear things up just by answering a few questions at our office. Your husband—he isn’t the type to grow...angry, is he? Are there children in the home? Grandchildren?”

And even if they don’t take someone downtown they will do the dirty work still wearing their jackets and ties, through fines, taxes, garnishes, penalties, eviction orders.

Only then will the force be brought.


5 posted on 01/25/2013 6:19:39 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: marktwain

A lot of people will hide their weapons

The police will come to confiscate them and they will either give them up or face jail. The first few arrested or killed will be made an example of, Given hard jail time to convince other to give up their guns . After the initial few have been jailed or killed , most will hand their guns over.

If we do not want to have our guns taken we must form groups, no one can stand alone. Do not think for one minute that our police will not confiscate weapons. We must either prepare for war or decide to gve up our weapons. It’s that simple. I do not believe enough Americans will fight for their weapons to make a dent in the confiscation plan.

I guess we will see. How many people do you know who are willing to sacrifice their lives and careers and families to keep their guns. That is what defeated Australia, England, and it will probably defeat us.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:18 PM PST by Venturer
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To: marktwain

Dude had some nice ones stashed there too. I think I spot a Colt Navy and a Thompson SMG.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: marktwain

Odd way to treat potentially valuable antiques, all piled up like that


8 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:49 PM PST by BlueStateMadness (Two commonly violated premises: you can save people from themselves, and the free lunch myth)
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To: marktwain

Pfft around my neck of the woods. we’d call that a “starter stash”...


9 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:59 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: marktwain

This is the result that President Obama and the “Progressives” want. They do not want to go door to door confiscating guns. They just want to make them illegal so that 40 years from now, when your nephew finds them, he will be “shocked” and will dutifully turn them in to police; terrified that he might somehow be held responsible for their presence.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 6:26:05 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: marktwain

When people ask me what I’m going to do when they come for my guns, I say that’s the day I’ll die.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 6:31:00 PM PST by 38special (The Department of Education wastes money)
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To: marktwain

When people ask me what I’m going to do when they come for my guns, I say that’s the day I’ll die.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 6:31:00 PM PST by 38special (The Department of Education wastes money)
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“Odd way to treat potentially valuable antiques, all piled up like that”

I believe they were segregating most of the wood from most of the metal preparatory to going to the smelter or being burned.


13 posted on 01/25/2013 6:31:44 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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“When people ask me what I’m going to do when they come for my guns, I say that’s the day I’ll die.”

But what about after you have died naturally, and your grandkids are asked for them?

Heck, they will probably be able to get an extra food ration for them, maybe even be given an award for “communitarian child of the month”, or some such.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 6:35:25 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Venturer

The difference is there are 50 million gun owners in the US.

If a small percentage of them fight it will be enough.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 6:37:22 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

And this yutz called the police. Moron.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 6:41:24 PM PST by skeeter
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To: marktwain
Unlike a lot of sad sack gutless whiners that have been posting on the Freeper lately, I am not willing to surrender one single inch. I was born an American and that means I have rights. Many people died so that I could have those rights, the least I can do is LOUDLY declare my support of the second amendment, vote in EVERY single election for the most conservative candidate (whether I want to have his babies or not), be a member of the NRA, and occasionally shout at people on the internet.

I also totally support any time a conservative wants to be obnoxious at a Dem rally, make viral videos, start stupid petitions and any other silly thing that they want to do. Some of you guys seriously need to STOP grumbling every time a Birther makes a post or a goof-ball starts a White House petition. You don't have to personally get off your front porch grandpas, just stop shaking your fists at the conservatives that do. :p

17 posted on 01/25/2013 6:48:06 PM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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When people ask me what I’m going to do when they come for my guns, I say that’s the day I’ll die.

There! Thats what an American sounds like!

18 posted on 01/25/2013 6:51:56 PM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: 38special

When people ask me what I’m going to do when they come for my guns, I say that’s the day I’ll die
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I agree 100%

Have always said that if ever marched into a back room with 10 or 12 people and somehow get on the floor, unless I am #1 or 2 in line there is going to have to be a foot print on my back in order for you to shoot me in the back of the head..

And if you think I am ‘dumb enough’ to dig my own grave you have another problem on your hands.
I mean if a couple of bazookas are holding guns on you and hand you a shovel to dig a grave you have to be dumber than a bad of rocks to dig it
OF COURSE I guess there is always the possibility that once dug they will shoot each other and expect you to cover them up.....yea right.....


19 posted on 01/25/2013 7:03:37 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: BlueStateMadness

And that handgun in the middle of the picture is a replica of an 1846 Colt Walker .44 black powder revolver.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 7:05:35 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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