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I continue to believe there are some recalcitrant criminals, who shake their fists at God, who deserve the ultimate punishment.

But I now believe there are some convicted offenders who are truly repentant; who deserve forgiveness and mercy notwithstanding their crimes.

1 posted on 11/26/2012 12:27:08 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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I leave it up to God. I don’t think what I believe really matters to anyone other than God and myself.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 12:33:08 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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I always thought those poor Menendez boys should have been treated with leniency. After all, they were orphans.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 12:37:22 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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All that mercy crap is just the liberals’ way of saying that no one is responsible for anything - there is no free will.

In the liberal mind, the only ones who deserve punishment are people who say un-PC things.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 12:37:47 PM PST by I want the USA back (I love annoying liberals.)
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You can forgive them all you want.

Society should not. Let them do their time first.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 12:39:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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I now believe there is no one beyond God’s redemption.
Execution won't interfere with that one way or the other.
7 posted on 11/26/2012 12:39:24 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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Of course there should be mercy, that in no way removes the personal responsibility and punishment for the crimes.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 12:40:25 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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I watched a show the other night...a sports documentary about two young men who combined to kill a great basketball player in Detroit for nothing other than a shove.

They made a point that while one of the two spent 20+ years incarcerated and then continued to be a career criminal - the other one came out a new man and is now giving lectures in Detroit about how to not “go down the wrong road”. They bragged about the 50% recidivism as if it were a coup.

I suppose I’m getting a tad mean in my old age (or coming closer to my grandfather’s philosphy)..but I know how to keep recidivism at 0% for all murderers.

If you ned somebody to give lectures in schools how about letting the guy who has worked every day for UPS - spent 10 years as a box kicker - then got promoted to night shift manager.


9 posted on 11/26/2012 12:40:46 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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There is nothing that I know of that would remove the possibility of redemption in God’s eyes of any individual where their criminal sentence is still carried out to the full extent of the laws of man.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 12:42:08 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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I’m for the victim of the crime pardoning their killer. When they do, sounds fair to me.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 12:42:50 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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I watched a show the other night...a sports documentary about two young men who combined to kill a great basketball player in Detroit for nothing other than a shove.

They made a point that while one of the two spent 20+ years incarcerated and then continued to be a career criminal - the other one came out a new man and is now giving lectures in Detroit about how to not “go down the wrong road”. They bragged about the 50% recidivism as if it were a coup.

I suppose I’m getting a tad mean in my old age (or coming closer to my grandfather’s philosphy)..but I know how to keep recidivism at 0% for all murderers.

If you need somebody to give lectures in schools how about letting the guy who has worked every day for UPS - spent 10 years as a box kicker - then got promoted to night shift manager - then made day foreman - and now has a nice house and is putting his kids through college.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 12:43:44 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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Nothing emboldens sin more than mercy.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 12:48:00 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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if one commits a crime, the price must be paid. Period.

If that criminal is trulrepentantnt, then he/she is right with G_d and whejudgmentnt comes, they have nothing to fear. Before that day, they have to be punished for what they did. If it is death. So be it.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 12:56:42 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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Being merciful would be to execute them within 6 months of the convictiuon.

More merciful to the killer not to be living in prison and more merciful to the victims relatives.

Over 600 killers on death row in California and 99% will die from old age.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 1:03:48 PM PST by Venturer
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Mercy should consist of a dignified public hanging, a nice hood over the head to prevent ropeburn to the neck and hide the face of the perp from the sadistic and, most of all, some hearty hymn singing to comfort the perp and prepare him to meet his maker before the trap door is sprung.
19 posted on 11/26/2012 1:23:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Mercy should consist of a dignified public hanging, a nice hood over the head to prevent ropeburn to the neck and hide the face of the perp from the sadistic and, most of all, some hearty hymn singing to comfort the perp and prepare him to meet his maker before the trap door is sprung.
20 posted on 11/26/2012 1:24:23 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I agree completely that no one beyond God’s redemption. I know that for a fact, based on the best possible authority. Why is that relevant? God may forgive a pedophile, a rapist, or a murderer, but does that mean we should bet the safety of the next potential victim on a genuine reform? Certain criminals should be locked up forever, not because we choose not to forgive but because we choose to err on the side of caution once they have stepped far enough outside the scope of acceptable conduct.

I am not willing to bet any child's safety on the sincerity of a pedophile's remorse or on his "good behavior" in a prison where he doesn't have access to children. I am not willing to bet my wife's or daughter's safety on a rapist's conversion. Similarly, I won't bet an innocent person's life on a murderer's change of behavior. The merciful response includes balancing mercy to the innocent against mercy for the guilty. I may forgive the criminal and still not be willing to forget. God's forgiveness is what matters for the criminal, but the safety of the innocent should be a major factor in decisions on mercy for the guilty.

22 posted on 11/26/2012 1:34:59 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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There is always God’s redemption, and actually I’m surprised that the young killers you named got as long as they did for a non-premeditated killing in an argument, even if the killer was a gang member. In any case, most states do not allow execution of anybody that age.

As for adults guilty of premeditated murder, especially depraved killers (such as the one who was finally and way too late put to death in CA), as it was said once, there’s nothing that clarifies the mind like the prospect of hanging.

In my opinion, they’re more likely to repent and find God’s mercy if they’re sentenced to death than anything else.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 1:37:45 PM PST by livius
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If a murderer truly repents and pays for his sins, he will have a chance at going to Heaven when he dies.

Society’s job is to control crime by making criminals pay for it, thus discouraging others from stealing and killing because they fear the penalties, which will be justly applied.

If people commit deliberate murders, then they should face the death penalty. And if they subsequently repent while on death row, then as the saying goes, let God sort them out.

And if a Christian has contact with such people, he should urge them to repent and/or convert, not work at letting them go free, provided that they were justly convicted.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 1:43:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Give these animals mercy by throwing the switch or pushing the plunger on the syringe.But get it done.

It takes way to long to execute these murderous thugs.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 1:44:44 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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Biggest problem I see with this story is the perp who got to live and extra 13 years on death row.

If we executed those who commit murder in under a year from the time they are convicted, the murder rate would drop radically.


26 posted on 11/26/2012 1:59:47 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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