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Maybe Minorities' Values Need Changing
Jewish World Review ^ | Nov 13, 2012 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/13/2012 4:29:49 AM PST by expat1000

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To: expat1000

That’s “racist.” /sarc


21 posted on 11/13/2012 5:41:49 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: ari-freedom

You do know ...that is a quote from the article. It’s italics.

Second, did you bother to read past the first line? Just below the dotted line is a rant from someone who didn’t go to that liberal university telling me why he will vote democrat in the future....


22 posted on 11/13/2012 5:46:17 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: expat1000

The challenge is to instill a set of values that has no immediate material relevance. Hard work, honesty, self-restraint, humility ... how do those stack up against idleness, scams, self-indulgence, and arrogance? How does the promise of a brighter tomorrow stack up against a paaaaarrrrtyyyyy today?

We know the latter values aren’t sustainable. Any thinking being can understand that. So the solution for the Left is to paint them as “rights:” the “right” to murder your child after you have irresponsible sex; the “right” to free housing; the “right” to cable TV and an obamaphone. In short, the “right” to live off the fruits of someone else’s labors. The White Man deserves to have his wealth confiscated and redistributed. After all, he only attained that wealth through the exploitation of others. And all of a society’s wealth belongs to all of its members, not just the chosen few. Remember, you didn’t build that.

How do we combat that marxist appeal? How do we market bourgeois principles among the (self-)marginalized proletariat?

THAT is our challenge.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 5:50:38 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: expat1000

Thanks, I got my new tag line - and maybe a bumper sticker.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 5:57:05 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: expat1000
"If you want fiscal conservatism, the only path that has any long term chance of success is through the rebuilding of the family. The only way that people will be less dependent on the government is if they have stable social and family structures. Absent fathers mean single families. Single families mean that the government is now everyone's father. There is no way to break this cycle without also breaking democracy."

Republicans have to be courageous enough to tackle this. Even when blacks talk about this (Bill Cosby, Juan Williams), they are shut down and called traitors.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:56 AM PST by randita
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To: expat1000
What we have here is NOT a failure to communicate...or moving to the center or giving illegals the "pathway"...or any other suggested remedies for "fixing" the R's "problems"...

What we have here simply, are tens of millions of uneducated, unemployable people whose vote counts as much as the most productive among us.

The unions and yes....dear hearts...."greedy" businesses have over the years driven the production of "labor intensive" goods out of the US to places where the work is done "cheaper" and with NO union interference..

..SO...we have finally arrived at the point at which many "thinkers" and philosophers have, over the years, opined we would be:

..When people learn that they can vote themselves LARGESS from the public treasury, then its all over. Our Republic cannot withstand an assault on its wealth by tens of millions of people whose only (and preferred?) means of survival is the federal government.

It is going to be a long and hard road back, if we can ever come back since the aforementioned hordes have "elected" people who are hell bent to help them accomplish their dead-beatness.

The only thing that "could" change things is that manufacturers of consumable goods...flip flops, clothing, throw rugs, bath towels, etc....come back to the US and thus employ the less educated people who can do manual labor..

This, of course, assumes that many of the dead-beats want and are willing to work

26 posted on 11/13/2012 6:31:58 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: EBH

justify your choices any way you want. I dont agree. leeching govt money just cause it’s there or you think you and your family made a bigger sacrifice then any other person who works, spends much time away from family and daily puts themself in harms way in areas of our country or abroad, does nothing to make me think you make any sense other then you feel entitled which you are no more entitled then the average american. thank you for your service, but how often do you say that to others doing menial jobs that allowed you to do your service?


27 posted on 11/13/2012 6:44:52 AM PST by freeB
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To: ari-freedom

>>They don’t get rich.

Really? The Jesse Jackson family? Pelosi? Obama? Sharpton? Reid? It’s about money and power - them getting both. Bringing down the right is a minor side effect - not motivation.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 6:54:07 AM PST by expat1000
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To: cripplecreek

They used to have the same American values.

Proof that not one American voted for Obama.


29 posted on 11/13/2012 6:59:26 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: expat1000

Absolutely the case.

But where do you start? Particularly with the black community? Things just seem to continually spiral down worse and worse for them, yet they are firmly stuck in the ideological trench.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 7:00:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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>>But where do you start?
Maybe here..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2958524/posts


31 posted on 11/13/2012 7:25:37 AM PST by expat1000
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Our only hope for America is that every conservative takes upon him or herself the project of learning what American and conservative values are, coming to understand what leftism stands for, and learning how to make the case for those values to women, young people, blacks and Hispanics. That is what my radio show, latest book and Prager University are about. And while I am, happily, hardly alone, there are still far too few of us who understand "the vision thing." Surely the Republican establishment has not.
Think where we might be if Karl Rove understood that.
The nearly universal response — meaning the response offered by the liberal media and liberal academics (and some Republicans) — is that the Republican Party needs to rethink its positions, moving away from conservatism and toward the political center.
In my heart of hearts, I do not believe in the very existence of “the political center.” Certainly there are nuances of emphasis which can be politically significant - but in general if you are anywhere near “conservative”
(which belongs in scare quotes because we believe in and promote progress of, by, and for the people just as “progressive” belongs in scare quotes because “progressives” believe in progress of, by, and for the politicians)
then any movement away from conservatism is movement from a defensible position to an indefensible one.

Rush illustrated the point beautifully yesterday by pointing out that no matter what the “center," as it conceives itself, of the Republican Party might do to position the party as “pro-choice,” there would still be people - indeed, millions of people - whom the journalistic left could and would promote as being the heart of the party for whom “pro-choice” is anathema. So that there is no possible political profit in moving from the principled position toward the “liberal” position unless you are willing and able to position the party all the way to the left of the Democrats. And, even as they will condemn your lack of principle, the Democrats will still outflank you to the left.

The only possible result of the attempt to "moderate" conservative principle is internal damage to the Republican Party. The true path from Democrat voter to Republican voter is the path from “liberal” voter to “conservative” voter. It is the Road to Damascus. The scales have to fall from the eyes of the blinded. And as the saying that “a young conservative has no heart, an old liberal has no brain” illustrates, it does happen.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 9:37:57 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Rush illustrated the point beautifully yesterday by pointing out that no matter what the “center," as it conceives itself, of the Republican Party might do to position the party as “pro-choice,” there would still be people - indeed, millions of people - whom the journalistic left could and would promote as being the heart of the party for whom “pro-choice” is anathema. So that there is no possible political profit in moving from the principled position toward the “liberal” position unless you are willing and able to position the party all the way to the left of the Democrats. And, even as they will condemn your lack of principle, the Democrats will still outflank you to the left.

But the other side of that is, as Daniel Greenfield recently said, why flaunt an unpopular position especially when the candidate in question is unlikely to do anything about it?

He used the example of gay marriage which Obama opposed until the polls told him he was okay to go with it. Prior to that the Democratic machine would let that special interest group know they supported it, but not make it one of the issues that everyone assoicates with that party. On the right, we do the opposite. Trumpet pro-life to the masses that the left can then manipulate into an anti-woman stance and for what purpose when there is not a whole bunch that a president can do about it anyway? Not smart.

33 posted on 11/13/2012 5:07:32 PM PST by expat1000
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Trumpet pro-life to the masses that the left can then manipulate into an anti-woman stance and for what purpose when there is not a whole bunch that a president can do about it anyway? Not smart.
What choice is there about “trumpeting” an issue when a Democrat in journalists’ clothing demands an answer on the issue?

There simply is no substitute for knowing your position and defending your position in season and out.

I think we can agree, in retrospect, that Paul Ryan could have - and should have - done a “I paid for this microphone” response to Joe Biden’s heckling. The correct response would have been to answer the first question fully - no matter how many interruptions and changes of subject that Biden and the moderator attempted to impose. Lather. Rinse. Repeat, until the moderator concedes that Ryan is going to make complete, logical answers, and that she cannot prevent that no matter how far in the tank she is willing to appear to be.

34 posted on 11/13/2012 6:36:57 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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What choice is there about “trumpeting” an issue when a Democrat in journalists’ clothing demands an answer on the issue?

Sidestepping tough questions is politics 101. I'm sure you've seen it a million times by politicians of every stripe, including your favorites.

35 posted on 11/13/2012 7:06:42 PM PST by expat1000
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