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Fox News in Big Trouble when A La Carte Arrives
http://www.TableOfWisdom.com ^ | 11/9/2012 | Scott Ryan

Posted on 11/09/2012 12:24:13 PM PST by publius321

For the most part everything played out as I feared in this February 16th, 2010 article Coming Sequel to the Romulan-GOP Schism.

The thesis of our party splitting our conservative votes over multiple candidates, thereby electing the ONE weak candidate in the race became the reality. The pundits of Fox News who are mainly responsible for this outcome are now telling us we need to further abandon the fundamental principles upon which our party was founded. We need to further -become- the Democrat Party to defeat them as though this were simply a sporting event devoid of any moral rectitude.

Once again, they are wrong. Once again they betray us. We lose because conservative principles have not been competently articulated by a GOP Presidential nominee since Ronald Reagan. We have not had a true conservative presidential nominee since Ronald Reagan.

Sure we could finally start a new party. BUT why should we? The notion that we would need to start a new party is patently absurd. We are the MAJORITY. The liberals running the GOP need to be run out on a proverbial rail. There is NO REASON why we should have to abandon OUR party to a minority of 30% (at the most).

It is TIME for us to take over leadership of our party. My favorite founders Hamilton, Adams and Washington, unlike Jefferson were passionately against the French Revolution from the beginning and were prescient in their predictions of how tragically it would end. As bad as the French Revolution was, I cannot resist the metaphor that came to my mind after November 6th, 2012. If we have to have a figurative "reign of terror" to finally extricate these people from the GOP national leadership, than that is what needs to be done. Let us not forget their treacherous actions at the convention in Tampa to arrogate more power onto themselves. Remember their penchant for private jets and strip clubs with our donations. Their attitudes can be likened to the French aristocrats, not because of wealth but because of their condescension, impropriety and their breach of fiduciary responsibility as leaders. On that note I say - Storm the damned Bastille. It is time to stop pussyfooting around with these apostates.

Here's the message for the GOP establishment: There needs to be an immediate, mass exodus by these people at the RNC - or we are coming for them. Here's a message for the "Architect" Karl Rove, Fred Barnes and the entire Fox News round table who repeatedly manipulate our party every election: Disappear. Retire. You have done enough damage. Go out gracefully. We need to forget you. If cable offered "a la carte" right now, Fox News would be off of my cable package and replaced by TheBlaze TV. In fact, they will be replaced the minute I get the news. Conservatives have warned Fox for the past six years and yet they have given us the one finger salute. That is what is going to happen in a matter of time - so get your popcorn ready.

As I propounded in the "aforelinked" column in 2010, a mandatory runoff between the top two vote leading presidential candidates MUST be promulgated in each and every state where the leader has less than 51% of the party vote. In the following video I elaborate on this concept and once it is codified there will NEVER again be a hijacking of our presidential nomination. Never again - will the majority of the party be forced to accept the weakest advocate for our fundamental principles. Never again - will the 30% wag this dog.

(Video here) This full article that I wrote contains several significant back-links that I could not get in here. See blog for back-links and video if you would like.

Best regards.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: fox; news; rnc; rules

1 posted on 11/09/2012 12:24:19 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

I see no evidence we are the majority any more. Maybe we are the real RINO’s, maybe we should all become independents and simply vote for the best candidates even if they are minor party


2 posted on 11/09/2012 12:27:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: publius321

I hardly watch Fox anymore. Personally, I would rather get my news from interwebz.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 12:37:26 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

Faux News has always sucked, and now they are just as liberal as the rest of the channels (not that they were all that conservative to begin with)


4 posted on 11/09/2012 12:38:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: publius321

but “Frontrunner” Mitt had what voters crave...

He had ‘electability’


5 posted on 11/09/2012 12:40:01 PM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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To: Mr. K

He had executive hair.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 12:40:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Mr. K

That was some BS wasn’t it?

I would bet if Newt had debated Obama the crap would have hit the fan, especially about Benghazi.

Mitt just grinned while 4 Americans died.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by Venturer
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To: publius321

Fox lost the “conservative” construct years ago — it was a ploy to garner viewership — they are all washed up - fake - and no different than CNN or the rest of them...

I don’t even watch them anymore — a big waste of time...

The whole USA MSM is a waste...I think RT News has better coverage - and that’s coming out of Moscow!..or maybe the BBC...

US News sources cannot be trusted or listened to...


8 posted on 11/09/2012 12:45:54 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: publius321
The party is divided up among a number of factions. First, there's the GOP-e. This consists of the talking heads and professional mumbletypeg players ~ the Roves for example. Then they have their well-wishers ~ Coulter, et al, and a trick bag of potential candidates like Christie, Rubio, and that crowd. We know who they are.

Finally they have followers ~ that maxes out to about 15% of the party faithful.

Second, we come to the Defcons, Socons, Fiscons, Traditionalists and Constitutionalists ~ they're the other 85%.

In this group it is expected that people will also have links, if only philosophical, to the other coalition partners.

There's no such expectation with the GOP-e.

If we have to dump those people, then so be it. I'd start at the top with the immediate purge of Preibus and his friends, and work our way down through the state committees ~ every one of whom who voted for Preibus need to be purged and the sooner the better.

We can give them an easy way to start ~ Preibus can simply admit to an extramarital affair with David Petreaeus to get this ball rolling. One scandal ties into another, and pretty quick you get the party cleansed of the losers!

9 posted on 11/09/2012 12:50:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K
'lectibility ~ Teddy Kennedy talked about that in that famous drunken Ted sound byte Rush used to run.

He must have had it ~ once!

10 posted on 11/09/2012 12:52:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: publius321

You crybabies should stop whining. Do you really think that Foxnews was THE problem? FoxNews was the ONLY station that kept hacking at the Benghazi story until some whistleblowers started to leak useful information. Then, they just put it on TV for seemingly 24 hours a day. This allowed a good third of TV viewers to learn about it. Let me tell you, without them, there would have been 0 mention of Benghazi collectively in the media. Without Fox News the Left would have a total monopoly on their propaganda. Are there any other sources for information? sure there are. However, how many people actually get their news from those other sources? Not many. It would be back to the time when there were only 3 channels and all of them liberal...except worse, because in those days the media kept their partisanship very subtle. Today, they are to the left of Castro. So yeah, keep blaming Fox News if you feel like it. I will continue to support it and encourage the people who work there.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 12:55:24 PM PST by winner3000
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To: muawiyah

You’re right. Start with Preibus for certain.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 12:55:27 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

You crybabies should stop whining. Do you really think that Foxnews was THE problem? FoxNews was the ONLY station that kept hacking at the Benghazi story until some whistleblowers started to leak useful information. Then, they just put it on TV for seemingly 24 hours a day. This allowed a good third of TV viewers to learn about it. Let me tell you, without them, there would have been 0 mention of Benghazi collectively in the media. Without Fox News the Left would have a total monopoly on their propaganda. Are there any other sources for information? sure there are. However, how many people actually get their news from those other sources? Not many. It would be back to the time when there were only 3 channels and all of them liberal...except worse, because in those days the media kept their partisanship very subtle. Today, they are to the left of Castro. So yeah, keep blaming Fox News if you feel like it. I will continue to support it and encourage the people who work there.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 12:56:26 PM PST by winner3000
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To: BCW

I’m watching Fox News right now...they just had a commercial that said BENGHAZI in big, bold letters and a teaser about Justice Janeane’s show tomorrow. Think any other cable outlets are discussing Libya? We need Fox news.

But we need to let Fox news be the CENTER of the political spectrum (which it is) and form a far right network to counterbalance MSNBC, the gay network.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 1:00:53 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: winner3000

“Do you really think that Foxnews was THE problem?”


Yes, Yes I do.

Sep 19, 2012 05:22 PM
Fox Owns the Mitt Romney Candidacy
http://youtu.be/P_0xRejWNuE


15 posted on 11/09/2012 1:00:58 PM PST by publius321
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To: GeronL
Maybe before we go off half cocked we should look at states where we were successful, like my state of Kentucky for example.

There are 515,00 more RATS registered in Kentucky than Republicans.

State turnout was 59.16% of registered voters.

Romney 60.51%, Obama 37.81%

We won a House seat in a primarily RAT district by defeating a 3 term RAT incumbent (Chandler).

The only RAT who won a House seat was Yarmuth because his opponent didn't have any money.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 1:05:32 PM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: ez; All

“But we need to let Fox news be the CENTER of the political spectrum (which it is) and form a far right network to counterbalance MSNBC, the gay network.”


This is an important statement that warrants copying All. This rhetoric about “far right” betrays who the RINOs are - every time. It demonstrates a lack of understanding of principles.

“Far right” is jargin of the left. RINOs, like liberals think that being moderate magically makes them the most correct as though both sides were divided 50/50 with equal amount of error. How prosaic.

Yes, I’m “far correct”. I’m extremely correct. That’s because of I have my moral compass given my God 2,000 years ago.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 1:05:54 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321
Sure we could finally start a new party. BUT why should we?

Sure... Let's just stand around kickin' that dead horse... that'll work...

18 posted on 11/09/2012 1:06:37 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: GeronL
I see no evidence we are the majority any more.

You need to read up on the Reagan Revolution and Limbaugh's 'See, I told you so'. That was at the end of the Conservative's 40 years in the wilderness, and everyone believed there were no Conservatives anymore. Look what happened.

They are there, and more numerous than anyone imagines.

19 posted on 11/09/2012 1:10:31 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: publius321
If you think Fox News was the problem you need to broaden your vision.

I just wish they would get rid of Shep Smith and Juan Williams. They are both idiots...and libs, IMO.

I wish Fox would drop "Fair and Balanced" and just be "Fair." There isn't balance OR fairness on any other channel.

20 posted on 11/09/2012 1:11:54 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: publius321
OK...this article is only so much sewerage.

The title states, "...When a la carte arrives."

Then the only other reference to a la carte is this;

If cable offered "a la carte" right now, Fox News would be off of my cable package and replaced by TheBlaze TV. "

#1. Cable does not offer a la carte. And it never will.

#2. If this jerk is going to select GBTV over FoxNews then he has no credibility in my book.

Plus, I do not think GBTV is available on anything but the 'net.

21 posted on 11/09/2012 1:13:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: anoldafvet

Yeah, I know. I am kind of sick of all the nastiness towards our side during the election.

We actually help the left beat up on us.

Kind of despicable really.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 1:15:55 PM PST by dforest
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To: publius321
Here's the message for the GOP establishment: There needs to be an immediate, mass exodus by these people at the RNC - or we are coming for them.

How? They hold all the levers of party power and the Romneyists changed the convention delegate rules. Just like all those who said "we'll hold Romney's feet to the fire" -- it's sound and fury, signifying nothing.

We tried it their way on Tuesday and got fewer votes than the last time we tried it their way four years ago. It's time for a different way.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 1:16:44 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: publius321

Cavuto just announced that Petraeus would not be testifying in front of the committee next week. Something smells bad here.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 1:19:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: muawiyah

The GOP needs to do what the Indianapolis Colts did, clean house, from top to bottom.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 1:19:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dforest

How conveeeeeenient.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 1:20:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: roamer_1

I agree but Scott’s point is we are really the majoirty then we should aim our fire at the leaders in the GOP and kick them out. he told them they better quit or retire gracefully or in shame or as he put it people are coming for them.

That may not be enough. I support creating a new political party. A conservative Party of America.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:38 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: publius321

I’ve read some good rants here at Free Republic. This is not one of them.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:50 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Cable will soon have to offer A la carte. They only resist it because of their leftisit agenda to force people to pay for all the left-wing M-TVs, Bravos and other homosexual, deviant propaganda that depends upon their abuse of shareholder assets for survival.

How many parents would cognizantly choose these M-TV’s to teach their children casual sex, the trivializing of teen pregnancy and all of the other disgusting *&^%$# with which they inculcate?

So we agree there is no cable a la carte. I guess where we diverge is that the market forces are evolving to the point where they will be forced to offer the channels that we want as the technology is there and alternatives are coming.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 1:23:08 PM PST by publius321
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To: Mozilla

It’s time for Texas to take its rightful place and assert control over the party....We are the only large state that reliably votes Republican, we have twice as many electoral votes as the next biggest Republican state, and yet, we have no say over the nominee, it’s decided even before we have our primary. That’s wrong, and the Texas GOP needs to stand up and demand we take our rightful place in the Party.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 1:23:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GSWarrior

Feel better now GS? Whatever loser.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 1:34:34 PM PST by publius321
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To: Colonel_Flagg; Mozilla; All

“How? They hold all the levers of party power and the Romneyists changed the convention delegate rules. Just like all those who said “we’ll hold Romney’s feet to the fire” — it’s sound and fury, signifying nothing.

We tried it their way on Tuesday and got fewer votes than the last time we tried it their way four years ago. It’s time for a different way.”


I have no problem going either way. No dogmatism here. If we have to, I have no problem with leaving and starting a new party. I just think it is ridiculous how this small fraction of the party can have us by the balls and make us leave.

It really is absurd. But if we must leave, I think we should justr call our new party - “Thee Republican Party” or “The Original Republican Party”. How’s that for originality? Or how about officially naming it “The Party of Lincoln”.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 1:41:02 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

Not a bad start.

The Framers’ Party would do it for me.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 1:45:12 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: dfwgator

Here’s a excerpt from an op-ed link is at the bottom.

“Deja Vu All Over Again-Another “can’t lost” moderate...loses”

“...Lord insists we need more “New Reagans” — people of all backgrounds, all races, all religions — who are well-versed in conservatism.

And where did Marco Rubio, now hailed by the Republican establishment as a 2016 favorite, come from? Not from the RINO establishment. It backed Charlie “Tan-in-a-Can” Crist and fought Rubio tooth and nail. It was the Tea Party and Constitutional Conservative movement that gave birth to Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, etc.

There are flawed candidates, to be sure, among those backed by the conservative wing of the Republican Party. RINOs point to Sharon Angle and Richard Mourdock, for example, forgetting that no one wins 100 percent of their slate. Until the afternoon of election day, when the unions started busing in voters from places unknown, Angle was in fact leading Harry Reid handily.

And one inappropriate and/or misconstrued remark by Mourdock (and a crackpot third-party candidate) helped cook his campaign.

It’s not the conservatives who need to go away. It’s the RINO establishment that should make themselves scarce. Once again, a mushy centrist — who supposedly would appeal to wide swaths of the electorate — lost in a race that should have been a slamdunk.

And in this existential showdown between liberty and tyranny, Mitt Romney could not even attract the same number of voters as... John McCain. Constitutional conservatives, Tea Party conservatives, and fiscal conservatives don’t need to retreat. The RINO country club set needs to cede control to the true heart of the party. And if they refuse to cede power, we will defeat them as we have time and time again.”

Link:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/11/deja-vu-all-over-again-another-cant.html


34 posted on 11/09/2012 1:46:37 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: winner3000
Thank you for your statement. I have close friends who only get their news through the ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Comedy Channel, and The Daily Beast filter. Their view of reality is totally skewed.

Fox gives both sides a soapbox to express their views, but I really wish they would stop the people representing the two sides from talking over each other. Some say this is why they can't watch Fox news. They prefer the civil tone on CNN. What they forget is they only receive the Democrat/Socialist viewpoint.

35 posted on 11/09/2012 1:47:31 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: publius321

FOX News, the only network exposing Fast and Furious and the Benghazi incident. I’ll keep FOX and the koolaid drinkers can switch to CNN or MSNBC.

It WOULD be nice to see Geraldo, Juan and Shep get the boot.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 1:56:09 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: winner3000

Good post.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 1:57:11 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

Right now Fox is the best available. The Blaze will get on cable and it will surpass Fox because they will not insult us by subjecting us to drunken imbeciles like Bob Beckel and socialist cretins like Juan Williams. Equal time to propigate platitudes and fallacies does not constitute “balance”.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 2:02:37 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321
I'm ignoring your personal comment....

Fox News needs competition from the right. It would result in a better product. Not talking about Glen Beck. A real network. I think our best hope is for one of the three majors to shift focus. I have already seen signs that CBS wants to leave the "liberal plantation."

39 posted on 11/09/2012 2:04:17 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Colonel_Flagg; All

“How? They hold all the levers of party power and the Romneyists changed the convention delegate rules. Just like all those who said “we’ll hold Romney’s feet to the fire” —it’s sound and fury, signifying nothing.” - Colonel

OK, here’s a suggestion. How about I establish an escro fund and we hire some private investiagtors to investigate their past activities at these events. That would PROBABLY do the job.

Just for good measure, as far as we can legally - we keep these private investigators andf track them everywhere they go.

Or- these people can just honor the wishes of the majority and leave NOW.

By best suggestion for hard ball for now.

Scott


40 posted on 11/09/2012 2:09:48 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

This is what happens when you pick the electable guy.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 2:09:54 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: publius321

Remind me never to get you angry. :)


42 posted on 11/09/2012 2:11:56 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: publius321

I thought the title was referring to “a la carte” cable channel choice (if we ever get it), instead of the present “bundle” system; then I saw nothing about that in the excerpt.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 2:18:35 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Colonel_Flagg; All

“Remind me never to get you angry. :)”

LOL. Hey, we have been intensely trying to get our party back from the liberals for a decade and every time we get the same one finger salute.

That’s why I said it is time for a “reign of terror” in the gOP because these people are swindlers. NO DECENT PERSON of moral character would resist promulgating a rule requiring a run-off primary in each state where the front-runner earns less than 51%.

Yet these hijacking scoundrels play the same rhetorical games as the Democrats they ardently appease and demonize the MAJORITY of this party for wanting simple fairness.

I’m ready to play Robespierre here, storm the damned Bastille and pull out the metaphoric guillotines here.

This country is #$%^&* because of these people. I’ll open the escrow and let’s start raising donations. Let’s start with Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 2:31:10 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321
While I agree with your post in principle...I disagree most strenuously (keep in mind I've been drinking since 11:30 pm on Tuesday night) with what you perceive as any sort of impetus for 'Cable' to change to an à la carte system. "Their Leftist agenda" used in the context you present is a misnomer. The FCC is run by a Leftist. Their boss is a Leftist. Why would they offer any sort of system that would take ratings away from the likes of Bill Maher? A system to give The People what they want but not what Central Control wants them to see? Why? Why do you think they call it 'programming'?

I have been hearing about à la carte since 1986. It never happens. In fact, it is so far down the list of priorities it's not funny.

However, 'Cable' should be brought to bear and offer what their customers want. A menu. All of their "On Demand" services are designed around this concept...except the actual offered packages. It would be financially ruinous for them to do so. Ergo, they will not...IMHO.

Other than that, I have no strong feelings about it one way or the other.

Stay Safe FRiend and keep your powder dry.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!

45 posted on 11/09/2012 2:37:22 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: publius321

ping fior later


46 posted on 11/09/2012 7:17:29 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Plus, I do not think GBTV is available on anything but the 'net.

It was recently added to the Dish lineup; Channel 212.
But it's not as good as Beck's old show on Fox.

47 posted on 11/09/2012 8:54:54 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911
But it's not as good as Beck's old show on Fox.

That I used to watch on occasion. Beck doesn't really 'float my boat'.

48 posted on 11/10/2012 4:43:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: winner3000

While I am not a big Fox fan anymore, I did turn to them after the debates. It was the one channel where you could hear a less liberal spin on the debate. The focus groups were quite entertaining.

But election night, the TV was muted. Fox played a game with calling states so that the Electoral count was always tied or nearly always tied to keep viewers tuned in. Not calling TX for Romney until later so that they could get enough votes for Obama to keep that count tied was an example. I have no idea what other channels did.

Thankfully, this site was repaired in time to support commentary here.


49 posted on 11/10/2012 4:52:28 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: publius321
Our country is gone. It's lost. Neither political party cares about conservatism. The only reason Republicans even say the word is to get votes so they can all continue to milk the teat of of the taxpayers.

It's over. There's no hope. We're going to crash. That's the reality. Our government has turned its' back on God, and God, the source of all blessings, has removed his hand from our government.

50 posted on 11/10/2012 4:58:03 AM PST by DouglasKC
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