Posted on 11/08/2012 3:41:20 PM PST by Anti-Hillary
Wot? I'm not trying to make a point, I'm wanting clarification. Are they considering those that belong to Black Liberation Theology churches as Evangelicals?
Why do you *bet* I'm not an Evangelical?
BTW, the term Evangelical 500 years ago in France meant PROTESTANT, and it still does. If you want to say Pentecostal, say Pentecostal or Holy Roller. There are also black Catholics. They voted for Obama.
Just the way it is ~ he's still "historic", and my guess is he'll be the last black candidate of a major political party who runs for President for over a century.
He really screwed up. They're voting for him out of a sense of solidarity. It's a mistake and Jesus will dispatch them all to Hell, but they did it.
that includes blacks you damn fools here
average Catholic here thinks anyone who isn’t Roman is an Evangelical
idiots
Do you know what Black Liberation Theology is? It doesn’t belong in the Evangelical category.
3 million in Texas voted for Obama so that’s probably half right there.
What are you trying to prove? This is nothing new, as there are always tares among the wheat, and while the 21% who voted liberal is grievous - and consider that it aparently included blacks and Latino evangelicals (you forgot to even give a source: http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx) - and you are attacking the most conservative Christian group there is.
Take a look here: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html
Some RCs are eager to blame the 21% of evangelicals who voted like 50% of Catholics.
Who is our Republican leadership?
The brand that's got the most adherents is smaller than the Nation of Islam anyway.
AME, Baptists, Methodists ~ if black ~ or part of Jimmy Carter's division of the Baptist movement, have Evangelicals who voted for Obama.
Groups like the Primitive Baptist, probably didn't vote ~ and that's true for the ones who are black or white. They don't particularly care about Mormons ~ they just don't vote.
>even 22% of gays & lesbians voted for Bush in one of the elections...2004<
And Pew states that “Romney received as much support from evangelical voters as George W. Bush did in 2004. (79%) and more support from evangelicals than McCain did in 2008 (73%). Mormon voters were also firmly in Romney’s corner; nearly eight-in-ten Mormons (78%) voted for Romney, while 21% voted for Obama. Romney received about the same amount of support from Mormons that Bush received in 2004.
57% of Protestants overall voted for Romney, while 42% supported Obama. Catholics as a whole were evenly divided in 2012 (50% voted for Obama, while 48% backed Romney) - http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
By attacking evangelicals it seems almost like someone is attempting damage control for another religious group.
What is your definition of 'Evangelical'?
I am not sure that I believe the vote totals we are being asked to accept. I see too much evidence of too much fraud to believe ANYTHING we are being told about this election.
Just because people call themselves Christians does not mean they are Bible believing, Christ’s shed blood on the Cross at Calvary, burial and resurrection from the dead, and sitting at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. Many so called Christians still think they can work and earn their way into Heaven. Wrong! Paul makes that clear. However, cults preach a different gospel, and Paul also says anyone preaching another gospel will be accursed. When they say 80% or something like that call themselves Christians, that usually means people say, “well, I am not a Jew, I am not a Muslin, I am not a Buddist, etc.” Thus, I must be a Christian. Or, they came from a Christian family. Grandpaw, Grandmom, dad or mom were a Christian. So, I am. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Check out 1 Cor 15: 1-4 for the gospel of grace. Only by acceptance of Jesus Christ, and He made it clear that the only way was through Him. So, this, calling themselves Christians, does not actually mean they are Christians.
My question was/is...are they combining the BLT church votes in with the Evangelical vote count? I'm just curious if they did, as some BLT churches pass themselves off as Christian churches.
Who are they? Not one of the big ones fur shur.
BTW, you are worried about the splinter in your brother's eye and you have a log in your own. That log is made up of the 60 million Catholics, non believers, moslems, Jews, Buddhists, and others who voted for Obama.
Kvetch about the whole bunch, not just Conservatives who you think might have not voted for your boy.
NOTE FOR RECORD: people who imagine something like the LivePrayer Church dot com are meaningful religious bodies with gazillions of members probably don't get out much. There's no excuse for that.
Remember, the crowd telling the pollsters they were Evangelicals who voted for Obama were likely to be Democrats and they lie. Always assume Democrats always lie when it comes to politics.
You are making yourself excited about something that simply cannot be known from the data ~ even Rev. Wright's church is part of the Church of Christ (puritan) crowd ~ an ancient Protestant movement, yet he teaches BLT. We know it's BLT because we've heard his tapes and we know where those concepts come from. They didn't change their church name though.
Goodnight, Gracie!
rofl,
I hope you read the title of the story ~ right there ‘SELF DESCRIBED EVANGELICALS’ ~ which means ‘NO ONE KNOWS IF THERE”S ANY TRUTH TO THE CLAIM’
Clear eyes. Nighty nite.
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