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TIME TO FIRE THE LOSING COACHES
Mr K | Mr. K

Posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:53 AM PST by Mr. K

This is the time of year when all the talk on the radio is about which coaches with losing records will be fired.

"Reince" Prebus should be first


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
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He is not up to the job
1 posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:57 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Mr. K

Amen to that! Time to clean house!


2 posted on 11/08/2012 5:45:44 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

I’m not sure what to do with national pollsters knowing that the establishment pollsters were giving good information and our trusted pollsters were feeding us pablum to keep us from giving up.

I want the unvarnished facts, and I don’t want “our side pollsters.” I want straight shooters unemotionally delivering facts. I think people are far more likely to roll of their sleeves and work harder than they are to turn defeatist and simply give up. Giving up is not a conservative value.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 5:52:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: tsowellfan

Yep. And either fire Rasmussen or put an end to early voting and get serious about ending vote fraud.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: tsowellfan

Prebus is an embarrassment. He made himself look like an arse with his cocky attitude and reassurances that we were doing better. In fact he couldn’t even get more turnout which was a killer and he didn’t get enough pressure to keep guys like Akin or Mourdock (both over the edge guys) from running. We lost 2 Senate seats that should be conservative (note not over the top wacko) but conservative seats. Now we have McCaskill and Donnelley in a Senate with 55 Dems (and 2 Indys who will caucus with them) and 45 Republicans of which 12 are moderates like Kirk from IL and other one from Maine who are not line in the sand guys/gals.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:05 AM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: xzins

Who are these pollsters on our side lying to us?

I saw Gallup and Rasmussen within three points of the final, Dem cheating-boosted, results. I think they were both right that Romney was in the lead by a reasonable bit two to three weeks ago, and then it tightened again.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 5:55:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GerardKempf

You make very good points but the bottom line - he lost he needs to go.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 5:58:38 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: xzins
The pollsters werent' the problem ~ if you'd been following my posts on the matter ~ the entire technology has been made obsolete by the invention of universal CALLER ID and CALL WAIT and answering systems (computer based, phone service provider based, handset based, etc. ~ pret near universal).

A pollster calls and you look to see who called before you answer or use the call back feature.

Response rates are down to 9%! That disaster is compounded by the fact that some select pressure groups are able to misrepresent their numbers disproportionately up to 11 times normal simply by responding to all polls!

None of the polls turned out correct, but some folks using outside information were able to deduce events without actually referring to the polls ~ they gave you numbers based on their educated guesses ~ not on their polls, or anyone else's polls.

This is called AUGURY, not POLLING.

The Romans used that practice effectively for several centuries ~ right down to the ruse of random events, to wit, turning a bunch of birds loose and watching how they flew off. Worked on the Goobers in ancient times; still works on the Goobers.

8 posted on 11/08/2012 5:59:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K

Anyone who worked in the highest levels of the Bush administration or the Mc-Romney campaigns must now be considered persona non grata in GOP circles. We must remove them from positions of power in the party.

Their strategy of being Democrat-lite, while trying to play up likeability instead of policy and vision, has destroyed the national GOP.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:59 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: 9YearLurker

I think WE HAVE BEEN HAD (again)

I saw lines like I never saw before, and yet total R turnout was DOWN?????

I think this was MASSIVE voter fraud. The polls oversampling Dems +11 were a SETUP because if the true polls showing a huge R lead were shown and THEN Obama won, we would be screaming

They knew they were able to manufacuter votes at-will and pre-planned the polls to reflect it to avoid a meltdown.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 6:02:10 AM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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To: xzins

“I want straight shooters unemotionally delivering facts”

Could not agree more, I think part of it is the disdain which the establishment has for Conservatives, they think we are all a bunch of uneducated hicks who need to be feed lies to get us to vote..


11 posted on 11/08/2012 6:02:43 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: Mr. K

Not out of the realm but don’t know how we prove this other than some examples in North Carolina.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 6:08:20 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: All

The message didn’t lose because the message wasn’t communicated. Mitt Romney was the most qualified person we had running for office in a long time. He was deemed by a majority of people to be the most qualified in the area people wanted to see improvement, the economy. He didn’t win because the media embargoed him and accepted Obama’s definition.

We’re playing a 21st century game with 20th century thinking and messaging. Back in 2001, we entered the era of the permanent campaign and we just campaign once every two years. That won’t flush anymore.

The National Socialists used to have party offices in every locality and they campaigned for every vote. Even when they lost, they increased their visibility. They identified disparate groups that felt they weren’t represented and tailored messaging to each of them. Even if they opposed each other, they just told them what they needed to hear to get their vote. They recognized that all they needed was a 50+1 plurality to get where they needed to go and it was achieved by any means necessary. They had very attractive people go to every public function and represent, they had people that were full time paid staffers that just wrote to newspapers and blamed the problems on the Jews, the Zionists, the bankers, the shopkeepers. It was a constant drumbeat, day after day, issue after issue the media jumped on board. They divided and conquered.
This is what the Democrats have been doing since 2005.

Guess who the Jews are? us.

It’s not Reince, it’s not Rove, it’s us. We need to dedicate ourselves to the permanent campaign and if we refuse, we do so at our own peril.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 6:09:34 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Mr. K

I think there’s a pretty good chance of that. How about Romney’s real-time voter-tracking application—was it only counting GOP-registered voters? The tricky part is that they only would have had to skim a couple percent of the vote in a handful of states. I don’t think 10 million votes were vaporized, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a well-place half million or so were.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 6:12:44 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: montanajoe

I don’t think you have to worry about Priebus and the Priebus brand. He saw to that himself. He will not survive the fallout for two reasons: First, the GOP under his “leadership” failed to grasp the strategy and strength of the opposition. In wartime this would get a general’s army massacred. Second, he conducted the most expensive campaign in GOP history for an incredibly poor result. So, whatever can be said about his ability to manage money before the campaign, his ability to manage it during a campaign cancels that out and then some.

I won’t say anything about his publicly perceived persona.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 6:14:18 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: GerardKempf

Rainsay’s backstab was *the* evocative moment this election. As soon as he declared war on the conservatives, he was done. We stayed home and let Romney bury himself.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 6:14:18 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Uncle Chip
You can't "fire Rasmussen" as he is not employed by us, we use his privately owned.

Ending early voting is a MUST!

17 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:02 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Mr. K
Thinking now is the time to establish the T.E.A. Party for 2014 mid-terms.

Screw the GOP!

18 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:34 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: montanajoe; xzins

This isn’t directed directly at you but human nature says otherwise. Even on our side, when we are given the cold-hard facts that “we” don’t like, we’ll deny it’s true. I’ve seen it too many times on this site when they don’t believe this or that and that they have all of this anecdotal evidence that “proves” the opposite.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:02 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: xzins
I want straight shooters unemotionally delivering facts.

OK, here's a fact:

No one who is identified primarily as a social conservative can win a statewide race anywhere in the United States.

The best cover for socon beliefs is liberty - i.e., what socon families need most right now is to be left alone by the state. But first we must come to terms with the no more Akins - no more Mourdocks issue, which I imagine will be very difficult.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Mr. K
I did a piece on Preibus yesterday ~ several points are worth considering here.

(1) The party fired Mike Steele even though he'd presided over the greatest electoral win in 70 years (in 2010).

(2) Preibus, whatever he did, and he did some damaging things to several candidates down ticket, also presided over the Romney debacle.

(3) Ordinarily even those who only preside are rewarded when the party wins. Imagine what we should do with those who presided over a loss.

That's what we have to do with Preibus ~ if only to encourage future RNC Chairmen to get their act together.

Now, who else needs dumped? Well, we could start with every single individual there at the RNC who voted for Preibus. Their state committees should be encouraged to dump them out of Republican politics! That way we solve the Preibus problem root and branch.

I'd dump Gillespie as well. He contributes nothing to victory.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Belteshazzar

Newt Gingrich should be the next GOP party leader after Prebus is SUMMARILY FIRED THEN SHOT THEN P!SSED ON


22 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:44 AM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Really, “Conservatives” stayed home ? So that means you stayed home. Great . Thanks.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 6:21:58 AM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Mr Fuji
You may be right, most Conservatives claim they are reacting intellectually to events but when you get down to their reasoning it more often than not is simply emotion just like the folks on the left.

But personally I cant stand it, drives me up the wall, I'm a big boy I can handle the truth...

24 posted on 11/08/2012 6:22:25 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: Mr. K
Every 20 years the first serious election after a redistricting will be the presidential election.

About 40% more people show up for this type of election as compared to a mid-term congressional election.

Redistricting frequently involves consolidating some polling places and creating new ones in other locations.

That's why so many voters are surprised when they show up to vote and there's this huge crowd.

The folks who show up at nearly empty polling spots that'd usually been overcrowded are only pleasantly surprised.

Being pleasantly surprised is not news. You didn't hear about that.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 6:25:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GerardKempf
BTW, Mourdock was billed as a Fiscal Conservative, and he is. He is also a Social Conservative.

His predecessor, Lugar, would have continued to be the senior ranking Republican in the Senate, and with a Republican majority he'd been naming committee chairmen.

With Lugar out, Orin Hatch, the senior senator from Utah would have been the senior Republican senator in a Republican organized senate.

Outside interests came to Indiana with the money to finance Mourdock's primary race. Did they stick around to finance Mourdock's campaign in the general election, or were they just happy enough to put their boy Hatch in the catbird's seat?

Well, that was a big risk wasn't it ~ and the risk takers lost, but so did Mourdock, and the entire Republic will probably go down the drain simply because "they" wanted Hatch to be the senior senator with all the power that goes with that exalted position ~

Frankly I didn't support Lugar because he's clearly become a drooler ~ and the Senate is oversubscribed to that custom.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jim Noble

Akins and Murdoch’s problems were not that they were social conservatives. Their problems were their tongues flapping without engaging their brains. They made totally unpalatable statements that became huge soundbites for their opposition.

It doesn’t take a great brain to say simply “my religion leads me to respect all life as sacred until we have these issues decided by elected legislatures and not by unelected judges. I’m a great believer in “due process of law.”


27 posted on 11/08/2012 6:35:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Mr. K

The coach doesn’t make the plays or the fumbles. It’s the players..................


28 posted on 11/08/2012 6:39:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Bainbridge

I voted for Cruz and Goode. But I know plenty of other conservatives who stayed home rather than vote for Romney. It didn’t cost him here in Texas, but it did in other places of the country.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 6:42:02 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Mr. K
They knew they were able to manufacuter votes at-will ...

That's why I say electronic voting machines should be outlawed in ALL elections..................

30 posted on 11/08/2012 6:42:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: xzins

When the RNC announced they were cutting off Akin and Mourdock and Akin and Mourdock only - that was a disaster. They cut their own throats. The result - lowered turnout.

Had the RNC stood behind their nominees and did their job - the Republican party would have won this election.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 6:44:51 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Akin and Murdock aren’t the first ever candidates ever to say something stupid or misspeak during a campaign. They won’t be the last. Cutting off your own candidate is a self-defeating strategy. Best just to have the guy apologize for not saying what he really meant.

Joe Biden said there’s not one day he’s been proud to be the running mate of Obama. Shouldn’t he be allowed to correct that to what he really meant?


32 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I’m sure Joe was telling the truth.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 7:00:03 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I could help but wonder. :>)


34 posted on 11/08/2012 7:02:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I couldn’t help but wonder. :>)


35 posted on 11/08/2012 7:03:10 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I couldn’t help but wonder. :>)


36 posted on 11/08/2012 7:03:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Jim Noble

“No one who is identified primarily as a social conservative can win a statewide race anywhere in the United States.”

The only success of the night was by a bold social conservative tea-partier. Ted Cruz proves you wrong.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 7:03:21 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Oh,You voted for Goode. Great. Thanks.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:40 AM PST by Bainbridge
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