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Evangelicals plunge America into darkness – mislead polls and stay home on Election Day
coachisright.com ^ | NOVEMBER 8TH, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:55:02 AM PST by jmaroneps37

The experts are wringing their hands trying to figure out why Romney didn’t win, but now we know: the 14 million missing voters from Romney’s column are Evangelicals.

Evangelical Christians may not be evil people, but they helped an evil president become an evil dictator on Tuesday. The exact numbers aren’t in but clearly the vast majority of Evangelicals stayed home on Election Day.

They weren’t dealing with a storm or a personal family emergency. They stayed home because they made a conscious decision to allow our Marxist enemy to continue ruining our lives rather than have Mormon Mitt Romney as our president.

They draw their grounds for such a twisted thought from their interpretation of the Bible which they take literally – except of course for the part about handling poisonous snakes – that’s where a more modern interpretation of Scripture takes hold.

The Evangelicals’ hatred of Romney burns so brightly it blinded them. Self- flagellation and a willingness to aid and abet a clear enemy became preferable to them – consequences be damned.

Evangelicals profess to be pro-life against Gay “marriage” for religious freedom a strong protective bond with Israel and for a strong and effective military yet on Tuesday they stayed away by the millions and imperiled all they say they believe in.

They stood on principle, so they will say, so they hate the Republican Party for nominating Romney as well. They did not even consider the danger they put America in – Romney and the RNC hurt their feelings and they wanted the “revenge” Barack Obama urged.

Skipping the top line for the sake of saving America never occurred to our Evangelical neighbors. If Evangelicals had just done this we would have a Republican Senate and a stronger hold on the House...

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KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012analysisreligion; 2012electionanalysis; blame; christianvote; evangelicals; pimpmyblog; pw; romney2012
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To: Mike Darancette

Question is why are good people so stupid?

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Question is back to you. Do you beleive this article? Do you really beleive Christians voted for Obama or simply not voted? Read the replies on this thread by Evangelicals. Read thousands of other replies on hundreds of other threads by the Religious Right. We voted for Romney.

This article is wrong. Way wrong. Maybe your question about why good people so stupid had to do with with the Repubs are so stupid as to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?


81 posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:26 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Will88
Lots of sweeping claims in this article without a shred of statistical evidence to support it. And Romney won all the conservative states where the greatest numbers of evangelicals live.

That doesn't preclude that there may have been evangelicals in the battleground states which Romney needed who didn't vote.

Is there any evidence of an evangelical “boycott” in the battleground states where the election was lost?

There is a reduction of 3 million votes from the 2008 election. If the same people who had voted for John McCain had showed up, Romney would have won. We don't yet know exactly who these 3 million were that did not show up. They might be evangelicals, and so far I haven't heard a better explanation.

Do you have any better idea why we lost 3 million votes we had four years ago?

82 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jake8898

Why were R poll watchers thrown out in the critical states?

Why were the exit polls hashed out by media before anybody would present anything to the public?

Do you really and truly believe that half of the voters said that the most important issue was Hurricane Sandy, which is supposedly a natural event that nobody controls and for which Obama did NOTHING? I repeat, NOTHING.

Do you really believe that Blacks showed up in droves to vote for Obama even though a lot of them have pastors who spoke out against Obama?

If the polls you say were so consistent were accurate, then why is Nate Silver being lauded as the lone voice who “got it right”?

And my last questions: What would prove you wrong? How would we ever know whether fraud had occurred, or whether this was the way people really voted?


83 posted on 11/08/2012 7:18:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TurkeyLurkey
Missing ballots, more than we can imagine Massive voter fraud and intimidation Ignorance of the issues Disinterest Disgust Busy being entertained Drugged are some other reasons

Number one reason is that most people get their news from Liberal Democrats Hired from New York City (Voted Barack 79% in 2008) and who join a Union.

You can't play football when all the referees are opposing team members dressed in Ref's uniforms.

The media are like Machine gunners emplaced on a hill above us and who riddle us with withering fire every time we try to emerge out of our fox holes. Till we destroy them, we will continue to lose good men from their fire.

84 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:51 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Do you have any better idea why we lost 3 million votes we had four years ago?

This thread might provide some useful information for you:

Evangelical Christian voters turned out in record numbers according to a national post-election survey done by the Faith and Freedom Coalition.

85 posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:50 AM PST by Will88
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To: tiki
One could not be swayed and though she voted she just skipped the presidential race. I heard from others that there were many of them with that attitude.

I am not convinced it is evangelicals, but currently I don't have a better theory as to why 3 million votes didn't show up.

86 posted on 11/08/2012 7:26:41 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: jmaroneps37; All

Record Evangelical Turnout Was Overshadowed by Youth and Minority Voters For Obama

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 9:05 AM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/record-evangelical-turnout-was-overshadowed-by-youth-and-minority-voters-for-obama/#comments


87 posted on 11/08/2012 7:34:29 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Fiji Hill

So why blame the people who wouldn’t back him?


88 posted on 11/08/2012 7:35:33 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: jmaroneps37

BS! Look at the maps folks! With few exceptions again the rural areas voted republican. It’s the urban places that consistently stay poor and vote rat. That is where the real problem is. Urban versus rural!


89 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:14 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Jake8898
So we should compromise our principles now because someone might be silent later? How about we stand on our principles both times?

Reid said before the election: “A Democrat Senate will not work with a President Romney”

Boehner said after the election: “Republicans will agree to a tax hike under the right circumstances”. Like the economy will be less hurt by Republican tax hikes than Democratic tax hikes... Obama didn't have to win the House it seems.

Why couldn't Boehner say “We will work with a President Obama to the same extent Harry Reid promised the Democrats would work with a President Romney”. And answer every question that way for the next 4 years. Remind everyone who started the partisanship. The Democrats promised to blame Bush “forever”. They meant it, and its working.

Is it too much to ask for Republicans to be as steadfast in their principles as the Democrats are to theirs?

90 posted on 11/08/2012 7:50:17 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: jmaroneps37

If these people sat out both 2008 and 2012 they are not a “voting bloc” at all.

I’m disgusted at these phonies.


91 posted on 11/08/2012 7:53:35 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I'm a huge supporter of the social issues, but the cold hard facts is that there are more of them than us. Truthfully I have no idea what is going to happen to the Republican Party. Running a Black, Lesbian, Atheist Woman wouldn't bring the other half over. Until this nation falls on its face and repents...........
92 posted on 11/08/2012 8:05:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: jmaroneps37

This defeat was already created 40 years ago. Yes, a lot of people said they’d rather stay home than vote for a Mormon and I’m sure a good chunk of them did so. Some are even bragging about it now on their blogs. But let’s face it: Dems had single women, Hispanics, and college educated youth, none of whom give a hoot about the country but want what they want and will vote for the man who gives it to them.


93 posted on 11/08/2012 8:07:29 AM PST by stellaluna
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To: DiogenesLamp

The media is another reason.

But the bottom-line reason is that this nation has turned its back on God.


94 posted on 11/08/2012 8:07:45 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: righttackle44

I am an evangelical with heavy libertarian leanings. I vote in OH when I vote.

I did NOT vote for Romney because he spent 95% of his conservative career working against our interests and for the enemy. His nomination was a slap in my face and I took it that way.

I and others including JimRob warned the GOP that there would be hell to pay if Romney was selected. Well I guess they figured they could win without us.

Oops.

But I guess that’s our fault because the GOP steamrollered us and expected us to line up like good little soldiers.

F*** them, F*** Romney and F*** everyone who says its our fault the GOP can’t get their head out of their A** after we’ve been yelling at them until we’re blue in the face.


95 posted on 11/08/2012 8:11:57 AM PST by delapaz
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To: jmaroneps37
....clearly the vast majority of Evangelicals stayed home on Election Day.

They weren’t dealing with a storm or a personal family emergency. They stayed home because they made a conscious decision to allow our Marxist enemy to continue ruining our lives rather than have Mormon Mitt Romney as our president.

They draw their grounds for such a twisted thought from their interpretation of the Bible which they take literally – except of course for the part about handling poisonous snakes – that’s where a more modern interpretation of Scripture takes hold.

The Evangelicals’ hatred of Romney burns so brightly it blinded them. Self- flagellation and a willingness to aid and abet a clear enemy became preferable to them – consequences be damned.

Coach knows this how, exactly? He can't use exit poll data, because he's simultaneously saying they didn't show up at the polls.

96 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:14 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: butterdezillion

Butterdezillion wrote...”Do you really and truly believe that half of the voters said that the most important issue was Hurricane Sandy, which is supposedly a natural event that nobody controls and for which Obama did NOTHING? I repeat, NOTHING.

Do you really believe that Blacks showed up in droves to vote for Obama even though a lot of them have pastors who spoke out against Obama?

If the polls you say were so consistent were accurate, then why is Nate Silver being lauded as the lone voice who “got it right”?”

50% did not say Sandy was most important. 42% said it was important to them. But, I do believe that there are millions of uninformed doofuses who vote because they feel it’s their duty and are easily swayed by photo ops despite no real action.

Yes, blacks will show up to vote for him regardless. If they listened to their pastors there wouldn’t be a 70% illegitimacy rate amongst that community.

Look at Real Clear Politics. The polls all showed obama winning save one or two. Nate Silver is not a pollster. What he does is collects all of the polls and plugs them into his formula that then spits out a percentage chance of victory. He’s lauded by the left because unlike polls which had obama up by about 1% on average, his model was saying obama had a 91% chance of winning on monday before the election.

Fraud happens, but it would take a great deal of work and several hundreds of people to pull it off on a large enough scale. And, people can’t keep secrets. It would come out. Besides the states Romney lost like Fl. Oh. and Va. all have republican governors and in the case of Ohio, a very active republican secretary of state who oversees the vote.

Blaming it on fraud doesn’t help the party make the needed adjustments to win in 2014 and 2016. It says,”There’s nothing wrong with the GOP, nothing needs to be tweaked, we just got screwed.”


97 posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:02 AM PST by Jake8898
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To: jmaroneps37

What about Catholics hoss?

they are more of ya’ll and you still voted majority Obama

out of the hundreds of folks I know and 95% are white Southrn Baptist, PCA, MoSyn or AOG or Southern CofC

every one voted for Romney...enthusiastically

you jerks who toss around evangelical usually don;t even know what it is or the differences...it’s like “you people”

to most Catholics..anyone who ain’t one of them or Episcopalian or Orthodox and goes to church regular is an evangelical

and that is a lot of folks...many of whom have nothing else in common...nearly all blacks are evangelicals by that measure for instance

Rick Warren too or Osteen etc...and some of their followers are PC as hell

I do not know why the vote was low..it was lower across the board but fell much more for Obama than for Romney hence the smaller spread

the problem was demographics more than anything..and that is only gonna get worse...no matter how much the stupids here stick their head in the dirt

white conservative churches down here really pushed this vote trust me and everyone was motivated

i think folks will be better able to tell who stayed home at some point

but you cannot escape that Romney was not our best pick and did not have base appeal...the base appeal was get rid of Obama and that was not enough

i suspect you find his lack of appeal spread across our spectrum...in coming weeks we will see who stayed home but it looks like about 3 times more stayed home for Obama than Romney at this point compared to 2008


98 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:41 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 5thGenTexan

5thGenTexan wrote: “So we should compromise our principles now because someone might be silent later? How about we stand on our principles both times?”

Voting for a guy who might get us a 6-3 or 7-2 Supreme Court is compromising principles? The Supreme Court obama constructs will impact us for 15-20 years!

5thGenTexan wrote “Why couldn’t Boehner say “We will work with a President Obama to the same extent Harry Reid promised the Democrats would work with a President Romney”. And answer every question that way for the next 4 years. Remind everyone who started the partisanship. The Democrats promised to blame Bush “forever”. They meant it, and its working.”

Because he has to appear to be agreeable for now. If he doesn’t and Sequestration and the “fiscal cliff” happen, the Republicans will be blamed. Remember the Left OWNS THE MEDIA. That is why 53% of the dopes that made up the electorate still believe Bush is to blame for the economy rather than Barney Frank and his ilk.

The Left owns the mass media. We get blamed for every negative.


99 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:37 AM PST by Jake8898
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To: jmaroneps37; blam; Ohioan; mrsmel; re_nortex
You know...for a damn Yankee...as usual

you got a lot of nerve jackass

my home state of Mississippi is 40% black

and nearly 95% what you turds call Evangelical

Whites down there voted 90% for Romney

you are blowing out yer ass....looking for a scapegoat

when you live in a liberal cesspool you have lost control over

what a joke some of ya’ll are

just like it has always been...you can't get your own house in order but you are the very first to point fingers at everyone else

Protestants even counting blacks voted 57% Romney

Catholics...you I bet..voted 51% Obama...I'm disappointed but not BLAMING CATHOLICS..I blame non whites..very simple..and northern white KAPOS

What was the white vote in New York numbnuts?

let's look it up class...CNN 2012 exit polls

oh here it is...49% of whites in New York voted for Romney

now let's look again...in 90% Evangelical Mississppi...90% of whites voted for Romney..and I'll betcha most white Catholics in MS voted Romney too...

so pray tell Thaddeus...wherein does the real problem exist?

painful ain't it son?

and I give these lessons free of charge

class dismissed boy

PS...it gets worse...do you have any notion how many more white votes there are in NY than MS?...a lot...now get to work up there and quit blaming the world

100 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:09 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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