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STARVE THE BEAST: How to GO GALT and Avoid Paying Taxes (Without Moving or Quitting Your Job)
Reaganite Republican ^ | 08 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/08/2012 2:30:56 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

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To: JCBreckenridge

Much obliged, JC


101 posted on 11/08/2012 7:13:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: panaxanax

Good find- thanks!


102 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:13 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

I’m debating increasing my pretax contributions to retirement. I know the investments will likely be dropping over the next 4 years, but it should decrease my taxable income. That is if I am not mistaken in my thinking.


103 posted on 11/08/2012 9:11:55 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: All

Another one from FReeper Mad Dawgg (via bolobaby):

“One of the best ways I’ve found to “starve the Beast” is to “legally” lower the amount the Gub’ment withholds from your paycheck.

Just take the maximum allowable deductions. Yes, it may mean you have to “pay” come tax time BUT if just 10% of the people who receive paychecks would do this it would put a severe crimp on the Washington “looter’s” cash flow! Just stash the extra cash somewhere and come tax time if you need it to pay Uncle Obama well then you have it.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2956374/posts


104 posted on 11/08/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

bump


105 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:29 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Real Cynic No More

Comprehensive and informative, thx


106 posted on 11/08/2012 9:44:17 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: JimRed

It will send a message to everyone: elections have consequences


107 posted on 11/08/2012 9:53:33 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: stonehouse01
Don’t forget the library - Excellent source of free materials!! Reading, CD’s. everything.

It's not free. It costs taxes -- taxes everyone in this discussion are trying to avoid paying. Irony, thy name is Free Republic.

OK... back to lurking.

108 posted on 11/08/2012 10:09:49 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All

“It costs taxes — taxes everyone in this discussion are trying to avoid paying.”

They already pay those taxes as property taxes, so quit yer bitchin.


109 posted on 11/08/2012 11:44:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: ZinGirl

Knowing my daughter, I am sure she told people how she was voting.

Knowing the area where she works, it would have been preaching to the choir, literally!


110 posted on 11/08/2012 12:27:00 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Reaganite Republican

Practical advice.

emailed and noted

THANKS


111 posted on 11/08/2012 12:31:59 PM PST by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: JimRed

and the salesmans reply was???


112 posted on 11/08/2012 12:41:33 PM PST by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: JimRed
What ever happened to "buy American"? Besides, Toyota make that most hated of vehicles, the lib-driven Prius!

Get a frigging clue. It ain't 1973 any more. The Toyota Camry has been the most American car for several years now-- both in parts content and assembly. Most so-called "imports" are more American than many big-3 sh@tboxes, and they aren't made by Bolshevik union thugs.

113 posted on 11/08/2012 3:43:48 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Rightly Biased
and the salesmans reply was???

OOOOOH!

114 posted on 11/08/2012 4:35:23 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Excellent! Add me to any related PING lists please!


115 posted on 11/08/2012 4:43:37 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (I'm PISSED!)
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To: verga
Rather than address the point of the comment, you are attempting to discredit the message by attacking me.

How typically liberal!

But....I know that you are a **professional** educator and would **never** use this debating tactic with your emotionally and educationally immature students. To do so would be emotional child abuse, especially since it would be coming from a person in power.

For as often as we see you use this on Free Republic, I am completely confident that you would never do this in your government owned and run, socialist-funded, single-payer, and godless classroom ( compulsory for all students whose parents can not pay the jizya needed for their escape.)

116 posted on 11/08/2012 4:49:30 PM PST by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
I love the facts:

1) I live in your head rent free 24/7/365.

2) You wake up with the night sweats calling my name.

3) I can still rely on the advice of Dr. Johnny fever: "It is bad luck to take advice from a crazy person."

BTW the topic was going Galt and avoid paying taxes, not whining about a system that you refuse to attempt to fix.

117 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:44 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Reaganite Republican; Bushbacker1
For working stiffs, like me, increase your withholding dependents by two or three and that’ll lessen the amount being sent to the coffers. You can't do anything about FICA or Medicare/Medicaid, but you can with your withholding.

Just take the maximum allowable deductions. Yes, it may mean you have to “pay” come tax time BUT if just 10% of the people who receive paychecks would do this it would put a severe crimp on the Washington “looter’s” cash flow! Just stash the extra cash somewhere and come tax time if you need it to pay Uncle Obama well then you have it.”

I’m going to add a very strong word or two of caution regarding the above advice.

First of all the number of allowances from withholding you claim on your W-4 do not necessarily have anything to do with the number of dependents you can claim on your 1040. What you claim on your W-4 are withholding “allowances” not “dependents”. In other words, a person who is single with no dependents could claim any number of withholding allowances above the one for themselves depending on their personal tax situation, i.e. they might have a good number of allowable deductions (losses on investments, the purchase of a home, moving expenses, medical expenses, etc.) so that when they file their taxes for that tax year they are still not under withheld. Conversely a married person with four dependents might claim Married but withhold at the higher Single rate and 0 allowances if they have other income not related to employment, capital gains on investments or a second job.

When you file your taxes if you owe more than $1,000, you may be charged a penalty for underwithholding plus interest from the time the IRS determines the tax should have been withheld and paid. However, if your withholding from the previous year was equal or above your tax liability for the previous year, you would not be penalized under the “Safe Harbor” rule.

But if you miscalculate and cannot pay the taxes owed when you file your return on or before April 15th, the IRS will charge you additional penalties plus interest for every month the tax balance remains unpaid. I know, been there done that, not pretty.

Also be advised that if you knowingly file a fraudulent W-4, i.e. claim an unreasonable number of allowances or claim “Exempt” when you are not entitled to, you could face a fine up to $1,000 and a year in jail.

I am a certified payroll professional. I sometimes see employees claim well over 10 allowances (I’ve seen 99 allowances) on their W-4 or claim “Exempt” from federal withholding. Under the current law, I do not have to report this to the IRS as used to be the case. Unless the form is known to me to be fraudulent; i.e. they modify the form to take out or add language, give me a form other than the IRS form W-4, fail to sign it or verbally tell me they are filing a fraudulent form so as to evade paying taxes, I am to accept it without question. I will however “gently caution” anyone claiming over 10 allowances or claiming “Exempt” to be sure that they understand the consequences of under withholding, but as we in payroll say, “We are not the W-4 police” and if someone underwithholds, that’s on them not the employer. I'm also not a tax advisor and cannot give personal tax advice other than to ask, "are you sure this is what you want to do? I've found that sometimes people misread the W-4 instructions regarding claiming “Exempt” to think that if they didn’t owe taxes the previous year, they can claim “Exempt” when what that actually means is that they didn’t have to “pay” any taxes in the previous year (100% of all taxes withheld were refunded) and don’t expect to have to “pay” taxes in the current year – very rare except in such cases of part time employees under 18 who are fulltime students and some retirees, very low income earners. When I explain that, many employees have told me, "no, that's not what I want" and give me a corrected W-4.

Also be aware that if the IRS determines you have filed a fraudulent W-4 or have in a previous year, claimed too more allowances that you were not entitled to, the IRS may send your employer a “lock in letter” in which the IRS will determine the number of withholding exemptions allowed that stay in force until the employer receives a notice from the IRS that the “lock in” is no longer in effect.

One more word of caution: if the so called “Bush tax cuts” are left to expire, if you had more than $2,500 in FSA withholdings in the previous year or any number of the coming Fiscal Cliff/“Taxmageddon” provisions, whatever you had withheld in the previous year, even if your income and number of dependent have not changed, it may not be enough in 2013.

The best advice; with all considered, is to have only enough withheld as to neither owe taxes nor get a refund when you file your return. You don’t want to get a big refund (that’s the government getting an interest free loan on your money) but you need to be careful to not be underwithheld and end up owing penalty and interest over and above the tax. That takes some work and planning and may mean you might need to change your withholding allowances for 2013 and or change them based on changes in income or anticipated deductions during the year.

If you use Turbo Tax or H&R Block software to file your taxes, they have some good W-4 calculators. There are also other free calculators available on the web like paycheckcity.com or your employer’s payroll processors like ADP.

118 posted on 11/08/2012 5:12:57 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: verga
The topic is about starving the beast.

One of the best ways to do that is to remove one’s child from the government's owned and run, godless ( therefore religiously NON-neutral), socialist-funded, single-payer K-12 schools.

If there are fewer kids being indoctrinated in the government Marxist indoctrination camps, there is **more** opportunity to reduce taxes for all and to have money returned to the taxpayer's pocket.

Since you are evidently one of the smarter professional teachers, I am certain that you should be able to understand this simple economic principle. But....Maybe they don't teach basic economics in the nation's colleges of education. Given the rock bottom SAT scores of most education majors, economic principles may be a little much for them.

119 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:12 PM PST by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga
that you refuse to attempt to fix.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is impossible to fix a single-payer, compulsory-use, and socialist program. Programs such as this need to be abolished and privatized. Our Marxist controlled, government owned and run, socialist-funded, single-payer, and compulsory-use indoctrination camps ( misnamed “schools”) can not be reformed. We must begin the process of privatizing K-12 education.

One of the definitions of “Going Galt” is starving the beast. One of the most effective ways to do that is to remove one’s child from the government indoctrination camps. It has been estimated that it costs up to $17,000/per child/year. Whew! That's a **lot** of money that can be returned to our nation's citizens and businesses. This is money that can be invested in privately owned and run schools, as well as business and investments. This means **lots** of private sector jobs, the life-blood of the economy.

Since you are one of the smarter government teachers, I am certain you understand this principle. As for you colleagues?...Well!... They weren't the brightest bulbs on our nation's college campuses.

120 posted on 11/08/2012 7:47:33 PM PST by wintertime (:-))
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