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Mourning in America---Why we lost.

Posted on 11/07/2012 9:39:42 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

It's really quite simple. I get it. It had nothing to do with Mitt Romney. He ran a very disciplined and focused campaign. Far superior in resources, focus,organization, and discipline than John McCain's. None of the Republicans running this year could have defeated Obama. The reasons are clear and obvious to me:

Barack Obama is implementing here in the US the very same policies Hugo Chavez has successfully implemented in Venezuela: Take over key industries. Get the majority of the population dependent on entitlements and government support programs to secure their votes. Raise taxes and redistribute wealth away from the dwindling productive classes. Ignore our colossal debt.

This has been going on for centuries. In ancient Rome politicians in the Republic and later the emperors bought off or subsidized the urban, often shiftless and unemployed urban masses with free food and entertainment and public spectacles. This was done through government largesse and increased taxes on the decreasing productive members of the society.

The problem is no one really cares---not even with spectacle of Europe collapsing under monstrous debt levels and unsustainable entitlement programs. With $16 trillion in debt, one could plausibly argue that the US is already effectively bankrupt---we have more debt than all of the EU countries combined.

The other problem is NO SENSE OF URGENCY about any of this. Looking at the overall vote totals, 14 million fewer voters particpated in the election than four years ago. John McCain actually received more votes than Mitt Romney.

Democracy really cannot work, Our founding fathers set up a limited government constitutional republic, not an unlimited government mass democracy. Our founders feared mob rule and for good reason. They knew the masses would eventually vote for themselves more benefits at the expense of others. That is why they set up the Electoral College and required voters in federal elections to be property owners. A very wise idea in retrospect.

The situation is made worse by our dysfunctional public education syatem. Where young minds are inculcated at very young age by neo-Marxist teachers unions and later radical university professors where they are taught far more about Martin Luther King and Cesar Chavez and social justice than they are taught about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Patrick Henry, and Benjamin Franklin. If our young people were properly instructed, they would know that the entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit the power, size, and scope of the Federal Government, and leave most powers to state and local governments while at the same time protecting inndividual liberty and private property rights.

Our pathetic pop culture, depraved Hollyweird celebrities, not to mention a professional news media nearly 90% in the tank for the Democrat Party in every election simply hasten our plunge into the abyss.


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 9:39:44 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Your right on!!! As long as we give people free stuff then we lose!!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 9:42:08 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

From my son’s Facebook page: Looks like a lot of cheating going on:

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Seth Alu

11 hours ago.

Something that is bothering me right now:

Scott Walker (R), governor of Wisconsin, wins the statewide election for governor of Wisconsin in 2010. He is later recalled. He wins his recall. In a statewide election he wins twice. The republican wins a statewide election twice in Wisconsin. Yet in a statewide election tonight the democrat wins. Who are these people in Wisconsin that voted for
Scott Walker (R) - voted for him twice, most recently on 5 June 2012, just 5 months ago, where he won by a 53% to 46% margin - who are these people that only 5 months later vote for Obama (D) by a 52% to 46% margin? How does this make sense? And if this does not make sense, then what else out there is all contradictory to common sense logic?

If somehow this does makes sense to anyone else, can you please explain it to me?

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Tina Marie Munton Just gotta scratch your head and then prepare Seth.

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Seth Alu More:

I’m looking at counties. Here is Marinette County:

Walker got 61.9% of the vote. He got 10,267 votes. Barrett got 37.6% of the vote. He got 6,242 votes....See More

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Seth Alu More:

Here is Door County:

Walker got 56.8% of the vote. He got 8,401 votes. Barrett got 42.7% of the vote. He got 6,308 votes....See More

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Seth Alu More:

Here is Marathon County:

Walker got 62.1% of the vote. He got 36,352 votes. Barrett got 37.2% of the vote. He got 21,809 votes....See More

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3 posted on 11/07/2012 9:42:52 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

America will not survive the next 4.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 9:42:52 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Based on moderate relatives that live in a swing state, it was because of all the crazy talk rhetoric coming from a few extremists (the rape comments, etc).

It was just enough to push those on the fence over to the other side. GOP has to own that in order to win the next round. Can't bury our heads in the sand. Extremists hurt us greatly in this election. Need to shut them up the next time around.
5 posted on 11/07/2012 9:44:30 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Logical me

The media, just lie in 1992, did not vet properly their candidate. Then they go on to pose a reporters and journalists.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 9:46:01 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
They knew the masses would eventually vote for themselves more benefits at the expense of others. That is why they set up the Electoral College and required voters in federal elections to be property owners. A very wise idea in retrospect.

The problem with it is that (a) in time of war, the property owners always send the children of the non-property owners off to fight and die, and (b) the mass media make it impossible to keep the decadence and greed of some - a minority - of property owners under wraps; the political dynamic will then be used to paint all property owners to look like the most awful property owners.

7 posted on 11/07/2012 9:46:48 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

we lost quite simply because

1 the media have been ignoring issues and covering up for their messiah and the media need to be called out over this.

2. black racism, I say this because blacks would not have come out to vote for a white obama, they voted not on issues but color and that put him over the top in VA, OH, FL.

3. we have too many, far too many dopey thick stupid idiots which have no idea what they are voting for and just think they;re smart because they hear a talking point or bumper sticker slogan and then keep repeating it

4.voter fraud, voting more than once, non registered folks voting, throwing out obervers, intimidation and fighting photo ID, illegals voting, machines not working and going to obama when pressed for Romney

That is why we lost and when you look at the results they do not make sense.
5% more union votes, in OH, come on there is no way that happened.
MD voting for homosexuality, please so now black voters support turd poking.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 9:47:07 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“None of the Republicans running this year could have defeated Obama.”

I disagree... A number of them could have. Mitt never had the support of the base. He’s not a conservative. The votes he got from conservatives were just votes against oboma. He was perhaps the least ogf two evils.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 9:51:35 AM PST by babygene
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The Constitution was great but it had a key flaw - the Commerse clause. Big enough loop hole for the enemies of the Constitution to drive a tank through.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 9:52:04 AM PST by DManA
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To: DLfromthedesert

some of these results don;t add up.

MD blacks and churches voted for homosexuality, ER NO WAY.

Grayson gets booted out two years ago but then voted in now by a big margin.
What you said about Walker, he wins twice and then the same voters vote for oabma,doens;t make sense.
military votes in VA went split and was the only state where this happened and that was a swing state.

Look something is not adding up here and then we know about observers were being thrown out.
Broward county here always waits for all counties to report then they report last to see how many votes they need.
Philly threw out obervers so how many votes were put in there.

jobs lost, homes lost, debt, chick fil a protests, 2010 elections

This election does not make sense at all and seems very fishy but of course the DOJ will not look into it and if the GOP does then the Dems cr racism whilst ignoring the black racism which brought ut them to vote for the non white guy


12 posted on 11/07/2012 9:52:15 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The Constitution was great but it had a key flaw - the Commerse clause. Big enough loop hole for the enemies of the Constitution to drive a tank through.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 9:52:15 AM PST by DManA
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I guess many of you freepers live in suburbs or in rural areas and don't live in the cities( I don't know)? But in the cities I see it being overrun by foreign immigrants (legal and illegal). So you have almost 30% made up of immigrants, hispanics, and blacks . And those 30% vote almost 90% for democrats/socialism/tyranny. These including the Kenyan Obama people are not Americans like we are . They don't share our values of self reliance and limited government and freedom.there is a foreign invasion going on , an invasion invited in by democrat traitors. This is war but and we have to realize it is us real Americans vs these foreigners and democrats.
14 posted on 11/07/2012 9:53:41 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: manc
1 the media have been ignoring issues and covering up for their messiah and the media need to be called out over this.

Bingo. Or to paraphrase the great philosopher James Carville, "It's the media, stupid."

15 posted on 11/07/2012 9:53:41 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Simple: More and more people in the wagon and less pulling it.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 9:53:49 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

All day long all we heard were reports that voting was very heavy... I had to stand in line- for the first time ever.

And now they say millions FEWER people voted?

My voting place had the scanner fail just before I voted. I had to stick my vote in an ‘emergency bin’

4 more scanners, in heavy (R) districts, also failed that day (as reported on a local radio afternoon show)

I saw the woman who broke it- she put in her ballot and then for some reason yanked it out, which ripped it in half and jammed the machine. She then left without a word, not caring if her vote was cast or if she could get another ballot.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 9:54:24 AM PST by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: DLfromthedesert

Walker got 61.9% of the vote. He got 10,267 votes. Barrett got 37.6% of the vote. He got 6,242 votes....”See More”

I want to see more! and I agree, it does not add up.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 9:55:37 AM PST by DonkeyBonker (Amerca going down the tubes after Nov. 6th.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

It’s really nothing that dramatic. We keep running big government “republicans” that don’t excite (actually annoy) the fiscal and Constitutional conservatives. If we run somebody that doesn’t have a history of socialized medicine or restricting free speech we’ll win. If we keep running democrats with a R after their name, we lose even if the r-crat wins.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 9:56:32 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu

Exactly so.

“It had nothing to do with Mitt Romney”

“It had everything to do with Mitt Romney”

We could write a Dicken’s book.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 9:58:55 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

We Lost because we sent the Wrong man, Unprepared, to the Wrong fight.

Dems win because they have no scruples at all. It’s about Win at any and all costs period. And they’re very good at it. Lie, Cheat, Steall, they balk at nothing.

Our Party bosses shoved Romney at us who blathered on about being a completely different man as President than he was as Governor.

And enough people Saw it, Smelled it, and Disbelieved it, so that we, Lost.

If we’d Had a Conservative we’d have aced this election, but what we Got, was a Lying, Big Government RINO, lowlife.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 9:59:40 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: StolarStorm

I don’t necessarily buy that argument. While Akin and Mourdock made foolish gaffes which cost them their elections, Romney easily carried Missouri and Indiana. A more instructive race to look at might be Scott Brown in Massachusetts. There you had the perfect RINO Republican moderate in a northeast state. Never made a single gaffe and was a capable state senator and non threatening US Senator. Moderate or liberal on all of the social issues. But that wasn’t good enough for the voters of MA who decided they were more comfotable with a radical doctrinaire left wing ideologue who never deviates from radical left ideological purity. Truly frightening that the voters selected this individual for the US Senate. Akin’s and Mourdock basically threw their seats away with their boneheaded comments, they could have easily been carried in on Romney’s coattails who carried both states by comfortable margins. Every Republican should know by now you never mention abortion and rape in the same sentence.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 9:59:49 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Too early to say why we lost, because certain things just don’t add up. Ok, so this was a +6 D election per exit polls...so how does the House of Reps stay R in that kind of election? People far smarter and knowledgeable than us need to delve into the data and find out what happened.

But let’s start out with the facts, the first and foremost being that Obama barely won. Let’s stop pretending that we got crushed. If anyone listened to Charles Krauthammer last night, he had the right take on this. There is no need for soul searching he said, there is just a need to GOTV and deal with the huge non-white gap.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 10:02:55 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

People keep saying this, despite all the evidence against it.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 10:05:01 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Respectfully, BS!

We lost becaue we didn’t turn out and vote. Part of that might just be that we ran a moderate (left) Republican..again. We simply can’t compete with “Obama Phone” with an “Obama Phone” with fewer minutes.

McCain Palin=59.9M votes
Obama Phone 2012=59.2M Votes

W 2004= 62 (?)M votes.

It ain’t the demographics, it’s GOPe squish canidates. We need conservatives. Ryan isn’t a bad choice.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 10:06:01 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Respectfully, BS!

We lost becaue we didn’t turn out and vote. Part of that might just be that we ran a moderate (left) Republican..again. We simply can’t compete with “Obama Phone” with an “Obama Phone” with fewer minutes.

McCain Palin=59.9M votes
Obama Phone 2012=59.2M Votes

W 2004= 62 (?)M votes.

It ain’t the demographics, it’s GOPe squish canidates. We need conservatives. Ryan isn’t a bad choice.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 10:06:23 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

This just doesn’t compute. Vote cheating doubtless was one reason. But Obama got FEWER votes than he did last time. And Mitt Romney got far FEWER votes than McCain, even though McCain was a lousy candidate, too.

Romney was even worse. He pulled out all the stops attacking his fellow Republicans, but he did very little against Obama. He “won” the debates mainly because Obama was completely unprepared for the first debate. But there was nothing impressive about Romney in the debates.

The numbers tell the story. Millions of people who should have turned out to vote did not, because they refused to vote for Romney.

Was that their fault? No, it was the pundit’s and GOPe’s fault for ONCE AGAIN putting forward a candidate that the base didn’t want. You’d think they’d learn after about 10 times, but they’d rather lose than put anyone into office who refused to go along with their corrupt, pork-laden program.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 10:07:17 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
50.1% are not willing to risk any attempt to roll back the nanny state.
28 posted on 11/07/2012 10:07:24 AM PST by Machfour
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
We have to figure out something to combat voter fraud, the foreign invasion, and the media.

1.The democrat party is a criminal organization which we all know did massive voter fraud.

2. democrats have been importing millions of foreign immigrants legal and illlegal . these foreigner together with blacks and hispanics make up almost 30% of the population and they vote democrat 90%

3. The media creates a false reality and adds at least 15% to any democrat candidate.The media uses a syllable a Republican says and hammers that into every potential voters mind (maccaca, etc). A Republican can't ever make a mistake or say a wrong word ever, or anything that can be spun badly ever. Meanwhile democrat Obama gets away with murdering 4 Americans and covering it up lies yet no one knows about it.

We in Louisiana even with the chocolate city of new olreans had 70% voter turnout and we voted 60% to 40% for Romney.
Alabama, OK, and others seemed to be the same.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 10:09:17 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Dead Dog

We in Louisiana even with the chocolate city of new orleans had 70% voter turnout and we voted 60% to 40% for Romney.
Alabama, OK, and others seemed to be the same. What more could we have done?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 10:11:22 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“We didn’t lose. We just ran out of time.” (Lombardi I think)


31 posted on 11/07/2012 10:12:26 AM PST by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: StolarStorm

Yup. We need somebody more liberal than Romney next time. That’s the ticket.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 10:18:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
You make good points, but that is what I was told by relatives that do shift their votes b/w both parties. The comments went national and the effects were not limited to local races. I also blame the fact that Romney is just another socialist (Romneycare). So on one had we scared off moderates with some pretty crazy stuff, and on the other hand our base wasn't energized.

Have to get the Libertarian leaning members back into the fold if we want a big enough tent to win future national elections. And guys like Santorum or Romney aren't going to help us do that. The coalition that Reagan put together has fractured ... and I do blame the extreme religious right for that. Small government. Stay out of people's personal lives. Freedom. Nationalistic. That's where we need to get back to.
33 posted on 11/07/2012 10:18:51 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Democrat_media
We in Louisiana even with the chocolate city of new olreans had 70% voter turnout and we voted 60% to 40% for Romney.
Alabama, OK, and others seemed to be the same.

That's the part I can't wrap my mind around.
For the first time in my 48 years of voting, I had to wait in line over a half hour in my little rural precinct, never had to wait over 5 minutes before.
We had next to no campaigning by R/R in the state, but the turnout was massive.
Are we that big of an anomaly or did something corrupt happen in swing states?
Things just don't pass the smell test for me based from what happened here.

34 posted on 11/07/2012 10:23:27 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Dead Dog
Not turning out is a symptom. We lost for a number of reasons and I disagree with you about Ryan. Ryan is one of the reasons we lost.

Reasons we lost include:


35 posted on 11/07/2012 10:30:01 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: babygene

You can’t blame the results on anything or anyone except changing demographics in the US. There are simply simply more of “them” than us. What puzzles me is the low voter turnout, when everyone was posting yesterday about the long lines they had never seen before. Sounds like there may have been some voter fraud going on, on a major scale.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 10:30:25 AM PST by NotTallTex
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To: The Cajun

Look at the county maps. You’ll see the problem.
Yes Louisiana is conservative and so is Tennessee. And Romney won both. But we are sparsely populated. The vast majority of county’s vote conservative. But we are countered by super high populated cities and coastal cities that vote for democrats.

We need an effective plan to educate those densely populated cities and get them to swing conservative.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 10:36:59 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: babygene
What makes people believe that 50% or more voters are hard-core conservatives?  Not all republicans support these views.

Obama won because we are dissolving into the minority.   The left wing has been expanding it's base while we fight over whether a candidate has every single last value that we think a conservative should have.  For some it's abortion, for others it religion, for still others it is whether he washes his car on Sunday.  If a candidate does not possess every one of these traits he is labeled a RHINO and then claim that is the reason he lost .. it is not.

We are losing because the Democrats are appealing to more voters than the Republicans are ... sad but true.    They also commit voter fraud, lie, etc but that is another matter altogether.    It's disgusting, but it is effective.

38 posted on 11/07/2012 10:39:20 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: newheart

One could also argue “it’s the demographics, stupid.”

Yes the media has always been in the tank for the Dems, making our efforts doubly more difficult.

But now it looks as as if we having demograhics working against us as well. I think Romney got close to 60% of the white vote, enough to trigger a Reagan or Nixon like landslide a few decades ago, but not enough to win anymore.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 10:40:08 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: DannyTN
We need an effective plan to educate those densely populated cities and get them to swing conservative.

If that is truly the case, we are lost, as the old cliche says, "You can't fix stupid".

40 posted on 11/07/2012 10:41:41 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
Yeah the democrats committed voter fraud in other states.Still proud of us here in Louisiana, crowds were massive here in our state 70% voter turnout, voted 60% to 40% for Romney. Now with that amendment we passed we have the most gun rights of any state also.What else can we do secession?
41 posted on 11/07/2012 10:42:14 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: The Cajun
"You can't fix stupid"

We have to try. And by that, I mean, we have to fix the GOP so that they don't nominate someone who doesn't represent us. And we have to fix the citizenry so that they understand what is best for the country and vote for who is best for the job and not skin color or blind party allegiance or who promises the biggest handout.

42 posted on 11/07/2012 10:45:59 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: babygene

I disagree... A number of them could have. Mitt never had the support of the base. He’s not a conservative. The votes he got from conservatives were just votes against oboma. He was perhaps the least ogf two evils.

On the money. In a race between a liberal republican and a liberal democrat, the liberal democrat wins every time.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 10:48:57 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Democrat_media
What else can we do secession?

I will not discount that as an option.
And yes, I'm very proud of our state today.
I know we are often laughed at for being not too sharp hicks, think we disproved that big time yesterday.

44 posted on 11/07/2012 10:50:45 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: DannyTN
And we have to fix the citizenry so that they understand what is best for the country and vote for who is best for the job and not skin color or blind party allegiance or who promises the biggest handout.

Lofty ideals, but time ran out...............Seriously.

45 posted on 11/07/2012 10:53:24 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: softwarecreator
"If a candidate does not possess every one of these traits he is labeled a RHINO and then claim that is the reason he lost .. it is not. "

While it's true that we do tear each other down over individual traits, the fact is that this was a bad candidate. He didn't suffer just in one or two traits, he missed the boat on most of them.

I truly couldn't decide which was better Romney or Obama. When it came to the economy both had pros and cons, but really neither had a clue. When it came to social values, I hated them both. In the end, I voted third party, which I've never ever done before.

46 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:18 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: The Cajun
"Lofty ideals, but time ran out...............Seriously. "

It's not something we can accomplish in one election. It's going to take a serious long term plan to fight stupid.

47 posted on 11/07/2012 11:04:54 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Close, but not quite there.

My opinion is that the Republicans in general and Conservatives in particular either do not or refuse to understand the mindset that is the "squishy middle" out there. As we did with the Muslims in the mid-1970s, we want to think that this group will listen to reasoned arguments and act rationally when the pluses and minuses are added up.

This could not be further from the truth!

I note a Facebook entry this morning from a friend and former colleague whom I lump into this middle group.

Election ....check!
Now back to the more important issues...DWTS, The Voice, RHOBH, and The 49ers!!!! Lol!!!

As long as I've known her, she is quite apolitical, more worried about her aging mother, her struggling daughter and her upcoming wedding than the impending "Fiscal Cliff", Benghazi or the Arab Spring. Where does she and others like her get their news and views of the world?

Well, you get the picture. Fox News is biased, but the above named sources are fair and balanced.

How do we remedy this? Or, more precisely, CAN we remedy this? That, my FRiends, is the $16 Trillion (and rising) question!

48 posted on 11/07/2012 11:07:22 AM PST by ssaftler (It's mourning in America.)
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To: The Cajun

It’s kind of like growing up in Louisiana and fighting the “I know he’s a crook, but I like him.” mentality.

(Attitude towards Gov Edwards for those not from Louisiana)


49 posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:05 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: The Cajun

“What else can we do secession?

I will not discount that as an option.
And yes, I’m very proud of our state today”

A lot of others in Louisiana agreed with me on seceding here last night:

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/b/50/Political-Talk.aspx


50 posted on 11/07/2012 11:16:24 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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