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Politicized, Militarized Homeland Security Department Unveils New Panzer Division
Reaganite Republican ^ | September 25, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 09/25/2012 4:04:42 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

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To: Travis McGee

As crazy as this sounds, I don’t feel safe with the government being in charge of my safety.

Just a hunch. Don’t mind me.


61 posted on 09/25/2012 8:03:28 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Reaganite Republican
I wonder how likely it is that a newly elected president Mitt Romney will reverse all of this DHS bull crap. These vehicles (and the 1.2 billion rounds of ammo) are clear and present threats to the liberty of We The People.
Will he toe the line and just shrug his shoulders (as I suspect he will) or will he show some backbone and axe these projects?
62 posted on 09/25/2012 8:06:58 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: varon
Why is this a surprise to anyone? Obama stated, plain and clear, that he was going to create a Civilian National Defense Force as powerful as the military.

And recruits for this force will be carefully screened and psychologically profiled. Any applicants who may have qualms about obeying orders or firing upon who they're told to fire upon will not be hired.

This is the "Standing Army" that the founders warned us about, an army not for use against external threats, but for use against our own citizens as the means by which the federal government enforces its will.

63 posted on 09/25/2012 8:07:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Dead Corpse

” I don’t care how well armored your vehicle is... You need to get out of it at some point.”

Good point.


64 posted on 09/25/2012 8:19:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee; Dead Corpse

” “Special Response Teams.” That seems to be the new Fedspeak for this program.

Special Response to whom? “

Not to illegal immigrants, that’s for sure. That leaves ?


65 posted on 09/25/2012 8:23:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee

>>Every fed must decide:
Liberty, or Tyranny?
Death to all traitors!<<

I don’t think we should be aiming at their army, the LEO who is all geared up as a soldier. I think we should be aiming at their supervisors, their superiors, the man or woman who gave the orders to send these troopers out against the people. The man or woman wearing the best of business suits, the man or woman riding in the rear of the government vehicle that is driven by a state trooper.

Mr. or Mrs. Bureaucrat,
Use Caution:
If you issue orders to lock up groups of American citizens, you will, in effect be signing you own death warrant. You will become the target of every American deer and duck hunter. If you warrant the protection of a company of men, then your relatives will become the targets.

We won’t give you reason to use the recently purchased 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition to kill American citizens. You can be confident that we too have already stockpiled enough ammunition to defend ourselves, our families and our Country. I don’t expect that we will need to kill more than 100 of you contemptible, highfaluting political mongers before the others see and correct the error of their ways.

Step wisely and step lightly when it comes to trampling on the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of these United States.


66 posted on 09/25/2012 8:24:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I don’t want to take DHS’s side, and we all see the nefarious purposes of such vehicles. They should have the posse comitatus act shoved down their throats.

But, what if DHS has decided that they are going to be unable to protect America’s cities to the extent that massive upheaval, in the face of forced mass evacuations are necessary? Let’s face it, we are grossly unprepared to have a dozen of our cities “dirty nuked” simultaneously. What if Iran, or some other terrorist entity came through Mexico with dozens of dirty radiological devices, and detonated several devices in a dozen of our largest cities? The resulting casualties from just the panic to get out would be massive. Of course the economic costs would devastate our already sick economy. I don’t have a good feeling about a civilian agency having such weaponry, but does it really matter, if they are already planning to violate the posse comitatus act, openly? I am not sure of the armour on these MRAP’s, but armor does provide some level of protection against radiation, especially the kind you would expect from a dirty nuke attack.


67 posted on 09/25/2012 9:12:03 AM PDT by krogers58
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To: Reaganite Republican

Makes me wish I had a M5 Stuart or better, a Sherman Jumbo parked in my driveway. B-P


68 posted on 09/25/2012 9:16:33 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Noumenon

“Every can has its opener...”

Indeed...it’s called “thermite.”


69 posted on 09/25/2012 9:29:27 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (I fart in Muhammed's general direction!)
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To: Reaganite Republican; Travis McGee

Living near a military base, I don’t pay too much attention to the unit designations on the armored vehicles I see running around. I guess I ought to start looking a little closer.


70 posted on 09/25/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Charles Martel

A John Deere 544K loader could flip one of those APV’s like a turtle. Very common piece of construction equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTy8HFW2GHQ


71 posted on 09/25/2012 12:14:31 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (I spent all my money on women & booze, the other rest I just plain blew)
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To: OB1kNOb

not bulletproof per se

but run-flat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGxl4dTDWIM


72 posted on 09/25/2012 12:22:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Mouton
...think of this, a completely unarmed populace verses these vehicles and their wide eyed army of takers.

I prefer to think of a media, unused to the requirements of living under constant threat.

73 posted on 09/25/2012 12:41:43 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Travis McGee

Since we know the feds are not interested in securing the border, and don’t mind 12 million illegals already in the US, and aren’t interested in stopping the vandalism and violence of the OWS types, and don’t seem to mind when Holder’s people destroy neighborhoods and flash mob businesses ... exactly who is left to be the targets of 1.4 billion rounds of ammo and urban assault vehicles?

Go look in the mirror. The get ready for it, because it is coming.


74 posted on 09/25/2012 12:59:02 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Travis McGee
You recently mentioned the fervent prayer that some ten prosperous years down the road, your writing would be looked back on as the work of a kook. That reminded me of the following image, which took me a while to find in Oleg Volk's archive:

It seems to fit this thread, too.

75 posted on 09/25/2012 1:18:33 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Gaffer

It is seriously starting to look that way. When did my country morph into Communist East Germany ?


76 posted on 09/25/2012 1:41:11 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Nebr FAL owner

The article spelled it out clearly. The DHS is expecting “push back”......push back from who the hell whom?

They have these to suppress and oppress citizens, period.
If I saw one in my neighborhood, I’d sure as hell not think of them as friends. Enemies morelike it.


77 posted on 09/25/2012 1:46:05 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Ezekiel; All

Special Response Teams haven’t we heard that before ? Can you say Einsatzkommando boys & girls? Sure you can if you try.


78 posted on 09/25/2012 1:47:25 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: CodeToad

With heavy duty truck transmissions & turbo supercharged diesel engines can do better than 70mph on paved roads.


79 posted on 09/25/2012 1:55:59 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Travis McGee

I agree.

If Obama wins, its the end of this Republic it looks like


80 posted on 09/25/2012 1:59:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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