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Sterilization for 15 Yr Olds Needs No Parental Consent Under ObamaCare - Effective 8-1-12
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 8-27-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 08/27/2012 7:50:03 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

This literally made me physically ill when I read this headline: Obamacare Begins Child Sterilization Without Parental Consent. According to the guidelines of ObamaCare, children as young as 15 years old can be sterilized at no cost, and with no parental consent. I assume this means both boys and girls. If a 15 year old wants to be sexually active, how attractive might sterilization be? No worries - forever, and who wants kids any way. I can see the 15-year-old brain processing it in a quick minute. I believe more 15 year olds, and even 16 and 17 year olds might lean to this option thinking it uncomplicates life for them and bawling babies are a nuisance anyway - who wants them.

The "Required Health Plan Coverage Guidelines" set forth by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states: "Non-grandfathered plans and issuers are required to provide coverage without cost-sharing consistent with these guidelines in the first plan year.that begins on or after August 1, 2012.All [FDA] approved contraceptive methods, sterilization procedures, and patient education and counseling for all women with reproductive capacity."

Under Oregon State Law, the state's revised statutes (ORS) defines "informed consent" for 15-year-olds independently pursuing reproductive sterilization as being "(a) Based upon a full understanding of the nature and consequences of sterilization pursuant to information requirements set forth in ORS 436.225(1); (b) Given by an individual competent to make such a decision; and (c) Wholly voluntary and free from coercion, express or implied."

So you need parental consent to contract a state-sanctioned marriage under the age of 18 in the U.S., but you, all by yourself, can give full consent to the irreversibility of sterilization at 15? Chances are, you do not even know your future spouse, yet you're already determining his or her fate as well?

Oregon's consent form, specific for the sterilizations of 15 to 20-year-olds, reads, "I understand that the sterilization must be considered permanent and not reversible. I have decided that I do not want to become pregnant, bear children or father children." In the case that the patient does not speak or read English, an interpreter is permitted to assist the patient "to the best of [his] knowledge and belief" in the signing away of the patient's reproductive capacity. Source: Catholic Online

Most days now, the outrage gets to be way to much. I pray it erupts like a monstrous rush of hot, molten volcanic lava on election day, November 6th. This evil went to work in Oregon on August 1st. How many young boys and girls will be victims before this can be reversed? If my 15-year-old daughter took this action in secret, I can't even begin to tell you what I would do to some very specific persons before someone put me in chains for the rest of my life.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: dhhs; obamacare; sterilization; teensterilization

1 posted on 08/27/2012 7:50:13 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

Unacceptable. If my child cannot make the decision to own and carry a gun for her self defense, she cannot vote, she cannot be considered an adult for personal decisions, then I’ll have to adopt the stance that if anyone touches my underage daughter for any reason I consider inappropriate, including for sterilization, they will be utterly and completely destroyed by my hand in the most foul way I can devise.

In other words, I couldn’t care less what the law says... touch my child and you will wish you’d never been born.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 7:54:36 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

Doesn’t this fly in the face of State Age of Consent Laws?

You can’t have intercourse legally but you can can get cut, crimped, tied and fried w/o parental consent?

Mind Boggling. Pelosi was right...


3 posted on 08/27/2012 7:56:10 PM PDT by One Name
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To: maggiesnotebook

If true this election is over


4 posted on 08/27/2012 7:56:39 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: scooby321

Ping for later consumption.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 8:00:16 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: maggiesnotebook
Satanic. Just plain Satanic
6 posted on 08/27/2012 8:00:44 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: maggiesnotebook
I'm not gonna look at the link because it's a blog, but the language cited in this excerpt shows that a 15-year-old could not get sterilized without parental consent. The Oregon law cited specifically says consent has to be "given by an individual competent to make such a decision". That's a pretty straightforward legal term meaning someone who is over 18 and who is not mentally unsound. I'll immediately retract my analysis (and be completely horrified) the first time I hear of an actual rather than a hypothetical 15 year old being sterilized.
7 posted on 08/27/2012 8:00:47 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: maggiesnotebook

Eugenics.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 8:00:47 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (The First Amendment is a large caliber weapon. USE IT !!!)
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To: maggiesnotebook; All

Didn’t Dictator Hitler also try to alienate children from their parents?

Question: What will Dictator Obama try to do next?

Answer: Anything that he wants to because the RINO Party is scared to Impeach Obama, and the sheep-like voters are s i l e n t - - -


9 posted on 08/27/2012 8:05:53 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: scooby321

“If true this election is over”

The election may not even happen. If it does, the media will do everything it can to make sure truth is not part of the voter’s choice.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 8:17:54 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: LonelyCon

LonelyCon, I provided a link to Catholic Online as well as my blog. Before it says “individual competent to make such a decision,” it says ““(a) Based upon a full understanding of the nature and consequences of sterilization pursuant to information requirements set forth in ORS 436.225(1);”

Who makes the decision that there is a full understanding and what 15 year old can have a “full” understanding of such an important life event? It won’t be the parent.


11 posted on 08/27/2012 8:18:16 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

A compromise - anyone whose parents are voting for 0bama can be sterilized.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 8:21:10 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (I'm voting AB0/RYAN)
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To: maggiesnotebook

This will become real. This will not be undone. If Obama wins or if Romney wins. It is here to stay. Plan accordingly.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 8:23:36 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: maggiesnotebook
Under Oregon State Law, the state's revised statutes (ORS) defines "informed consent" for 15-year-olds independently pursuing reproductive sterilization as being "(a) Based upon a full understanding of the nature and consequences of sterilization pursuant to information requirements set forth in ORS 436.225(1); (b) Given by an individual competent to make such a decision; and (c) Wholly voluntary and free from coercion, express or implied."

The feds shouldn't be telling insurers what they do and do not cover, but how is the consent issue related to ObamaCare? Seems likea matter of Oregon state law, not Obamacare (or any other federal law, for that matter).

14 posted on 08/27/2012 8:27:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: maggiesnotebook

It’s late, and I have much on my mind with my sister going downhill (speaking of medicine), but...what really has this to do with UhbamaCare?


15 posted on 08/27/2012 8:44:00 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Graewoulf

I had a girlfriend once whose mom had joined the Hitler Youth.

They gave everyone who joined a nice wool coat. Red if I recall.

Splitting families is a devilish tactic.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 8:56:10 PM PDT by One Name
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To: maggiesnotebook

“We voters are poor little lambs
Who have gone astray,
Bah, bah, bah.”

Ever fearful of the dreaded PC Police, the once mighty American voters have morphed into sheep.
And so the Once Great Nation of America, fades into History - - - .


17 posted on 08/27/2012 9:27:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: maggiesnotebook

this admin sends condoms to 11 year olds, but soon they might not be considered mature enough to buy a soda

bizarro world leftists


18 posted on 08/27/2012 9:48:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: maggiesnotebook
If the said young uns cant support their offspring, then they should be sterilized.

It's not as cruel as it sounds. They procreated once, and there, their burden to society should end.

Why should the responsible citizens be financially compelled to not procreate to support the irresponsible ones that do?

19 posted on 08/27/2012 10:07:47 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: maggiesnotebook
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.

I have a feeling we will be finding out much more in the coming years.

To be fair, I don't think many of the regulations are even written yet in the Health Care bill or Dodd/Frank. We can't know whats in them or what effect it will have until they are issued.

If Romney is elected, do we really think he will dump this and not replace it with something just as stinky? I have insurance, leave me alone!!

20 posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:25 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: maggiesnotebook

To sterilize oneself to become more promiscuous is very shortsighted. When one discovers such promiscuity comes with the consequence of disease, they will learn the folly of their behavior.


21 posted on 08/28/2012 12:03:38 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: chuckles
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.

The 15-year-old-no-parental-consent issue here is an Oregon state law, not ObamaCare.

22 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:53 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Conscience of a Conservative, the law was written by DHHS. Oregon is implementing it.


23 posted on 08/28/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: jonrick46

jonrick46, a 15 yr old doing this would likely have little parental guidance or involvement in their lives. “Folly” is a word someone this young knows nothing about.


24 posted on 08/28/2012 7:58:20 AM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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