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5 Ways How NOT to be a Prepper
thesurvivalmom.com ^ | 8/11/12 | thesurvivalmom

Posted on 08/12/2012 1:24:42 PM PDT by Kartographer

1. Don’t believe every wild conspiracy you read on the internet or receive via forwarded email

2. Firearms and ammo are part of a well thought out survival and preparedness plan but shouldn’t take the top spot

3. Don’t model your, “preps” after those of some person

4. Don’t stash a few #10 cans of Mountain House, buy a Glock and a few boxes of ammo, a bottle of bleach, and call it good.

5. Don’t think that purchasing power equals preparedness.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
From our own ChocoChipCookie's blog. Go Lisa!
1 posted on 08/12/2012 1:24:51 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 08/12/2012 1:27:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; ChocChipCookie

Bump and thanks!!

(Of course, I get flamed, occasionally, for making some of these points on Prepper threads... ;))


3 posted on 08/12/2012 1:33:03 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer
My purchase this week:


The original Vietnam Tomahawk, SOG's F01T-N Tactical Tomahawk is the latest incarnation of one of history's most unusual weapons. This versatile piece of equipment handles a number of tasks including excavation, operations breaching, obstacle removal, and extraction, which makes the F01T-N an ideal tool for military and service personnel.
4 posted on 08/12/2012 1:33:15 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

This has turned out to be a great ping for me. Thank you.


5 posted on 08/12/2012 1:34:27 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (R&R isn't just a railroad in Monopoly anymore!)
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To: Uncle Ike

Want to trade scars? ;-)


6 posted on 08/12/2012 1:35:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

” Want to trade scars? ;-) “

Not a chance - you are the undisputed champ when it comes to flame scars...

(Keep up the good work... ;))


7 posted on 08/12/2012 1:37:41 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

How much and where did you get it? Thanks.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 1:37:58 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Kartographer

>> 2. Firearms and ammo are part of a well thought out survival and preparedness plan but shouldn’t take the top spot

Of course not!

Firearms and Ammo — two different things, so they take the top TWO spots. :-)


9 posted on 08/12/2012 1:41:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Kartographer
The original Vietnam Tomahawk, SOG's F01T-N Tactical Tomahawk

I want one of those. Where did you get it?

10 posted on 08/12/2012 1:43:48 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (R&R isn't just a railroad in Monopoly anymore!)
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To: Kartographer
Start a Chocolate black market!
11 posted on 08/12/2012 1:44:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum; NewJerseyJoe

I got mine from Amazon with free shipping. You can go under Google shopping search SOG’s F01T-N Tactical Tomahawk, but with shipping Amazon had the best deal I found.


12 posted on 08/12/2012 1:49:19 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; NewJerseyJoe
Very cool find!!

Joe, I'm in NJ as well. Read your page. We have similar views.

13 posted on 08/12/2012 1:54:39 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (R&R isn't just a railroad in Monopoly anymore!)
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To: Kartographer

Been prepping for a couple of years. I’ve learned a lot from your threads and the people on them and have been upgrading my storage methods. I’m getting ready to retire within a year and have enough provisions to carry my wife, children and grandchildren at least a year. If SHTF doesn’t occur at least I won’t be eating cat food in my retirement.


14 posted on 08/12/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: Kartographer

1. Don’t believe every wild conspiracy you read on the internet or receive via forwarded email

Only the wild conservative conspiracy theories are true. All the liberal ones are lies.

2. Firearms and ammo are part of a well thought out survival and preparedness plan but shouldn’t take the top spot

There’s (1) firearms, (2) ammo, (3) archery equipment, (4) tactical tomahawks, hatchets, and battle axes, (5) tactical knives, (6) quarterstaff, nunchucks, and tactical baton, (7) tactical ballpoint pens, and so many more things to include before you bother with food, water, sanitation, entertainment, communications, light, fuel, and similar trivia.

3. Don’t model your, “preps” after those of some person

But don’t make it up completely from scratch either. I’m modeling mostly after Kartographer - not after the woman from Dilbert.

4. Don’t stash a few #10 cans of Mountain House, buy a Glock and a few boxes of ammo, a bottle of bleach, and call it good.

You at least need trade goods: coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, and napalm.

5. Don’t think that purchasing power equals preparedness.

That’s why in addition to credit cards, my preps include cash, coins, gold, silver, diamonds, cigarettes, and whiskey.


15 posted on 08/12/2012 3:29:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer
One of my essentials is a solar shower, Many manufacturers available and thse get water so hot it is capable of pasteurization. Good for hygene and even disinfecting water in sunny weather.
16 posted on 08/12/2012 4:07:37 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Kartographer
BudK has some close knock-offs pretty cheap:

one for $39

here is the whole list
17 posted on 08/12/2012 4:08:59 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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18 posted on 08/12/2012 4:19:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Kartographer

Nice model. I prefer the wooden handle myself. If the shaft breaks, which CAN happen when bonking the hard head of some commie pig, you can always fashion a new one from good hickory.

I think, (but I’m pretty sure) the tomahawk was an English or Irish import to the country. American nations knew a good thing when they saw it and adopted it as their own.

Now, some one of you who has for real knowledge of the history of this marvelous tool, pleas educate me.

(BTW, a folding entrenching tool is a good stand in any day.)

As for gunz and bulletz. Single shot fold away camping .22 with stinger or hyper velocity rounds. Fit in your pocket. Or, better yet, one of those old over-under 20 gauge/.22 combos. Break down to small carry, can kill birds and beasts, and ammo is cheap and plentiful. Especially in a barter situation.


19 posted on 08/12/2012 4:31:29 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Pollster1

While we’re on the subject, don’t EVEN forget about peroxide, bandages, quinine pills, iodine pills, and a consideration for any maintenance meds you may be jacked up on.

Much of the need for those meds may go away if you are FORCED onto a more healthy diet.

But think it through, if you are a type 1 diabetic, and you don’t have a supply of insulin, you are pretty royally effed and your days are numbered.

A good med supply kit, sutchers (sp?) sutcher needles, syringes, (yea, a box of diabetic syringes are really useful when you need to administer some emergency antibiotic.)

I could go on and on. Each person’s needs are different. But don’t wait till you are down to your last blood pressure pill to realize that “sh!t, what was I thinking?”


20 posted on 08/12/2012 4:40:06 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
While we’re on the subject, don’t EVEN forget about peroxide, bandages, quinine pills, iodine pills, and a consideration for any maintenance meds you may be jacked up on. A good med supply kit, sutchers (sp?) sutcher needles, syringes, (yea, a box of diabetic syringes are really useful when you need to administer some emergency antibiotic.)

I agree on peroxide, plue rubbing alcohol - both are cheap. I have thread and needles, both new in sealed packages, but my primary suture option is superglue. I recommend buying packs of 3-5 disposable tubes twice a year, and using them for normal household use after a year. That way you always have 2-3 packs, and you know the shelf life for the brands you buy. Superglue is recommended for wound closure and a whole lot easier on everyone than sutures. I have a lot of sterile gauze pads, bandages, and similar. I put $100 into fish antibiotics (pharmacy grade, legal, and cheaper than prescription), so I'm covered there too, probably for a LONG time even in a crisis. Remarkably, no one in my family is on any regular medications, so we're not the model for everyone.

21 posted on 08/12/2012 4:53:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer

Need to know is an issue. Be careful who you tell and how much you tell.

22 posted on 08/12/2012 4:58:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer
I've long been an advocate of tomahawks as they are exceptionally versatile. SOG is a good make, but if you'd ever want to practice the art of throwing them, you'd be better with a smooth wooden handle, like the Cold Steel copy of the original Viet Nam 'hawk...


23 posted on 08/12/2012 5:03:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Kartographer

#6 OPSEC


24 posted on 08/12/2012 5:28:52 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Kartographer; NewJerseyJoe

Thank you for the info. I just ordered two from Amazon. One is enough to give you free shipping...$27.18 each. Looks like a great tool! And it comes with a belt holder.


25 posted on 08/12/2012 6:06:38 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum; NewJerseyJoe

I bought that exact tomahawk for my son in law last Christmas for $20 at WAL-MART, of all places. When I realized what a great deal it was, of course I went back to get my own and they were GONE. Not sure how much they cost now if you can find them, but I bet it’s more than $20.


26 posted on 08/12/2012 6:14:52 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: Pollster1; ConradofMontferrat

“...quinine pills...”

Quinine...best source is Schweppes Tonic...mixes well with gin... :) (if it’s not Schweppes it isn’t Tonic)

Hope you have lots of both in your stores, especially when I come to visit...


27 posted on 08/12/2012 6:28:52 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Walmart .com list $27.18 almost the same as Amazon.


28 posted on 08/12/2012 7:08:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ConradofMontferrat

A cheap supply of sterile bandages can be had by purchasing sanitary napkins for women. A brand name is Kotex, but many stores carry a house brand of the product. The pads and liners (unscented) are individually wrapped and handy as hell for treating wounds.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 9:02:53 PM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: Kartographer

Costco online has a SOG package with a machete, hatchet, and a really cool multitool for $129.


30 posted on 08/13/2012 5:21:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Kartographer
I'm getting to the point that I need a root cellar (no basements in my area). We're still continuing to "prep" even though we call it canning and saving up for a rainy day.
31 posted on 08/13/2012 2:14:01 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: outofsalt; Kartographer

Thank you. I never heard of this before. Just ordered it from Amazon. When I looked at the reviews, the first one was from a military mom who sent her son in Afghanistan one. He liked it so much she bought three more for his unit.

I always learn something new on these threads.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 8:19:52 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: Kartographer; Focault's Pendulum

You can find them at Sportsman’s Warehouse. I got a tactical tomahawk at Walmart last year when Christmas items came out. Walmart may do it again this year.


33 posted on 08/15/2012 7:45:47 PM PDT by Redcitizen (What's on your end of the world music playlist?)
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