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Tricia Wittmann-Todd would deny youth an authentic understanding of joy
La Salette Journey ^ | April 16, 2012 | Paul Melanson

Posted on 04/16/2012 8:44:27 AM PDT by cleghornboy

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To: cleghornboy; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; RnMomof7; HarleyD; fish hawk; Alex Murphy; ...
"Your hostility toward Our Lady speaks for itself. You stand against Sacred Scripture and the Tradition of the Church. By insulting Our Lady you insult her Son, Our Lord Jesus.

I would strongly urge you to repent of this sin."

You clearly have lost the ability to read my posts. I embrace, or shall I say have been embraced by, the Lord Jesus Christ. It is your cult which has dropped the flashlight and is wandering off into the dark.

Col. 2:18, "Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on VISIONS he has seen, inflated without cause by HIS FLESHLY MIND, and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God."

We will cling to the head, alone...you are welcome to continue to cling to visions you have seen with your "inflated fleshly mind." Remember this warning when the trump sounds.

21 posted on 04/17/2012 9:02:22 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Worshipping and praying to anyone but God through Jesus is not Christianity. It’s a faith full of totems and relics and graven images and its not Christianity.

They can do and say whatever they want, believe whatever they want. They post a lot of articles proclaiming themselves as the only true Christian Church but I have yet to see as Catholic Church named after Jesus.


22 posted on 04/17/2012 9:33:14 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Have you ever had a Catholic explain to you what they do with Gal. 1:8? But though we, or an Angel from Heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Last time I read my “Gospels” I could find NOTHING of which this person is pushing. Yet, millions have chosen this anti Biblical road to travel down.


23 posted on 04/17/2012 12:52:08 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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"Last time I read my “Gospels” I could find NOTHING of which this person is pushing. Yet, millions have chosen this anti Biblical road to travel down."

Great point.

24 posted on 04/17/2012 4:18:47 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Why do Catholics pray to Mary and the saints when Sacred Scripture states that there is one Mediator between God and man – Christ Jesus? (1 Tim. 2:5).

When Catholics pray to Mary and the other saints in Heaven they are not bypassing Christ, whom they acknowledge as the sole Mediator between God and man. They are going to Christ through Mary and the other saints. They are asking Mary and other saints to intercede for them before the throne of Christ in Heaven. “For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.” (James 5:16). How much more availing is the unceasing prayer of the sinless Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ! St. Paul asked his fellow Christians to intercede for him: “Brethren, pray for us.” (2 Thess. 3:1). And again: “I beseech you therefore, brethren, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the charity of the Holy Ghost, that you help me in your prayers for me to God . . .” (Rom. 15:30). Christ must particularly approve of our going to Him through Mary, His Blessed Mother, because He chose to come to us through her. And at Cana, He performed His first miracle after a word from His Mother. (John 2:2-11).

It is clear in Sacred Scripture that the saints in Heaven will intercede for us before the throne of Christ if they are petitioned in prayer (Apoc. or Rev. 8:3-4), and it is clear in the records of primitive Christianity that the first Christians eagerly sought their intercession. Wrote St. John Chrysostom in the fourth century: “When thou perceivest that God is chastening thee, fly not to His enemies, but to His friends, the martyrs, the saints, and those who were pleasing to Him, and who have great power.” If the saints have such power with God, how much more His own Mother.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 7:21:33 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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Why do Catholics believe that their Church is the one true Church of Jesus Christ? Wouldn’t it be more reasonable to believe that Christ’s true Church is a spiritual union of all Christian denominations?

Catholics believe that theirs is the one true Church of Jesus Christ, firstly, because theirs is the only Christian Church that goes back in history to the time of Christ; secondly, because theirs is the only Christian Church which possesses the invincible unity, the intrinsic holiness, the continual universality and the indisputable apostolicity which Christ said would distinguish His true Church; and thirdly, because the Apostles and primitive Church Fathers, who certainly were members of Christ’s true Church, all professed membership in this same Catholic Church (See Apostles’ Creed and the Primitive Christian letters). Wrote Ignatius of Antioch, illustrious Church Father of the first century: “Where the Bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be; even as where Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church.” Our Lord said: “There shall be one fold and one shepherd”, yet it is well known that the various Christian denominations cannot agree on what Christ actually taught. Since Christ roundly condemned interdenominationalism (”And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.” Mark 3:25), Catholics cannot believe that He would ever sanction it in His Church.


26 posted on 04/18/2012 7:24:13 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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Mary and the “Saints” are simply dead people, they have no more power than YOU and I do.


27 posted on 04/18/2012 7:28:43 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Wrong. Sacred Scripture (God’s Holy Word) says that Mary is “full of grace.” The angel Gabriel calls her “full of grace” and “blessed among women” in Luke 1: 28. You and I are not “full of grace,” Mary is. This was necessary since Mary would become the mother of the Christ child. God’s Holy Word calls Mary “full of grace” and “blessed among women” and yet you would oppose God’s Word and imply that Mary is “nothing special.” This sets you against God’s Word.

The Saints aren’t “simply dead people.” They stand before God’s throne and God’s Word, which you obviously have no respect for, says that they will judge the world along with Christ.

This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.


28 posted on 04/20/2012 3:43:16 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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When Catholics pray to Mary and the other saints in Heaven they are not bypassing Christ, whom they acknowledge as the sole Mediator between God and man. They are going to Christ through Mary and the other saints. They are asking Mary and other saints to intercede for them before the throne of Christ in Heaven. “For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.” (James 5:16). How much more availing is the unceasing prayer of the sinless Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ! St. Paul asked his fellow Christians to intercede for him: “Brethren, pray for us.” (2 Thess. 3:1). And again: “I beseech you therefore, brethren, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the charity of the Holy Ghost, that you help me in your prayers for me to God . . .” (Rom. 15:30). Christ must particularly approve of our going to Him through Mary, His Blessed Mother, because He chose to come to us through her. And at Cana, He performed His first miracle after a word from His Mother. (John 2:2-11).

It is clear in Sacred Scripture that the saints in Heaven will intercede for us before the throne of Christ if they are petitioned in prayer (Apoc. or Rev. 8:3-4), and it is clear in the records of primitive Christianity that the first Christians eagerly sought their intercession. Wrote St. John Chrysostom in the fourth century: “When thou perceivest that God is chastening thee, fly not to His enemies, but to His friends, the martyrs, the saints, and those who were pleasing to Him, and who have great power.” If the saints have such power with God, how much more His own Mother.


29 posted on 04/20/2012 3:46:11 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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