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1 posted on 03/29/2012 5:56:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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CW2 Ping

CW2 openly discussed at American Thinker.

2 posted on 03/29/2012 5:58:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Responsible Americans of all political stripes should seek to keep our political conflicts within the boundaries constitutionally laid out for change.

We've tried this ad nauseum. Our "Representatives" don't wish to represent us any more than we wish to be bothered by the government. The American "experiment" has failed and is turning into a crusty mess at the bottom of history's petri dish.

Sadly, the intellectual genius and spiritual enlightenment of our Founders is lacking on one or both fronts in an overwhelming majority of our electorate and trying to find someone or a group of men who would be willing to pledge their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor will be akin to searching for a conservative in the Republican party. Too many wolves among us.

4 posted on 03/29/2012 6:08:58 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Travis McGee
Is there any reason to believe that the republic is in danger of revolutionary activity?

They have been at it for a century and we are just now asking this question?

Restoring America is now the revolutionary activity and the danger is that there is not enough of it.

8 posted on 03/29/2012 6:20:57 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Travis McGee

Why are we afraid to discuss it? Commies have been openly screaming Revolution for years. And they made it to the White House!


11 posted on 03/29/2012 6:27:31 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping for later


12 posted on 03/29/2012 6:27:59 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.)
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To: Travis McGee

It’ll never happen. Most people don’t want that kind of trouble, and those who do are few and disorganized — and some of them are just plain kidding themselves.
The govt has the power to squelch discontent from those few who are serious enough to call for govt attention.
It can take your job, bank accounts, home, car, guns, all your assets, plus your children and your liberty and your sacred internet access, between sunup and sundown. Without firing a shot.
Still feeling rebellious? It can do the same to your friends, family, employer, neighbors; so don’t count on them. That leaves your dog, and he’s dead.
Now let’s be real. The only civil war that will be permitted is the one where unionists, panthers, and community organizers riot, occupy, vandalize, and burn someone else’s stuff. And even that will have a time limit and a limited objective.
In the end (prior to the Second Coming), the people who make the most babies, win.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 6:36:06 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Travis McGee
I don't want war. I don't want millions of my fellow Americans to lie dead or dying from conflict. I do not want to take up arms against those running our Government.

I also refuse to live on my knees. I refuse to subject my children to being raised as dependent slaves of the Nanny State. I refuse to allow my earnings to be taken from me to support causes that are the very definition of Socialism and anathema to our Constitution and heritage as Americans.

Our government is out of control. It no longer heeds to bonds of the Constitution and the system of checks and balances was discarded for political expediency long ago.

If we are to survive as a Nation, this needs to change. Radically so...

14 posted on 03/29/2012 6:48:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Travis McGee

The people gave away, or actually sold it for “Federal Dollars” their Republic a long time ago, my Friend. What the 2008 election proved and the 2012 election will affirm is that a majority of those who vote and claim that the “participate in the Democratic Process” continue to affirm they prefer to live the “secure” lives of a Governmental Slave to the uncertainities of freedom and personal responsibilitiy. Just in my short lifetime I have seen it go from people distaining and refusing Governmental handouts to demanding Govermental handouts. Once that threshole is crossed, freedom becomes merely an illusion.


16 posted on 03/29/2012 6:56:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

If you want revolutionary change and a return to our historic roots, it’s simple. Completely remove the welfare state. The hurt can be minimized if it’s done gradually and with intelligence. Case closed.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 7:57:54 AM PDT by No One Special
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Economic deprivation of society at large was not a factor Brinton found to be of significance (Anatomy, at 32). However:

... what provokes a group to attack a government is not simply deprivation or misery, but an “intolerable gap between what people want and what they get[.]” (Anatomy, at 30)


And the word “get” is not what I believe some of us expect, or feel entitled to, for lack of a better term...

We simply want the Federal government to live within its means, and stay out of our lives as much as possible...

The more that happens...Prosperity, both economically and socially will occur, it has to...

A total rejection will need to have happen to ensure some form of continuity to the next iteration of this country, if the bubble bursts...

But as someone here said earlier, it’s going to take the same kind of people (they know a few) of Founding Father caliber to step up and fix/rebuild this nation...

I’m not so sure there are enough people like that to do the job...Furthermore, the country and the world haas changed quite a bit since those heady days of the Continental Congress and those white guys in wigs first got together to figure this thing out...

But that doesn’t mean we cannot go back and study what and how they did it...

I would though like to propose a thought process, plant a seed...

If the Federal government shut down due to fiscal insolvency, and no remedy is immediately put into place to correct the problem, not delay the inevitable by spending bills just to keep them running...

I believe the congress, Senate and administration should step down immediately and a process for a national election within one week be allowed to take place, however impractical that may be, if they cannot be good stewards of our expectation to correct their fiscal irresponsibilities, then it is obvious we have the wrong people in there...

But again, we are talking about political cowards, and they tend to do things that do not put themselves in any jeopardy...

Just my opinion, shootin’ from the hip...So to speak...


24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Travis McGee
With its uninterrupted history of peaceful transition of power through elections,

except CW I and reconstruction. southern states did not participate in national elections.

38 posted on 03/29/2012 12:10:22 PM PDT by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: Travis McGee

We murder our offspring
We put our returning veterans of war on government watch lists
We elect “leaders” solely because they will take fewer freedoms away
We debate the role and place for our enemies amongst us
We accept that whole sections of our populace want and demand what they have not earned
We sit idly and discuss the fact that the Founders of our great country would have been at war by now...


43 posted on 03/29/2012 3:19:17 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Travis McGee
when it starts, those that have refused to work and carry their own weight better hang onto their azz cause they will be some of the first to go...

no pity for the lazy

44 posted on 03/29/2012 3:19:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
In truth, we haven't had a functioning republic since the late 1960s, perhaps before then. Historians will someday argue about when the American republic really collapsed. I reckon some will put it as early as 1932.

The fact is, we've been living on stored-up cultural capital for many years now. Once the last of the Depression-era children die off, that cultural capital will be almost completely used up. At that point---beware.
88 posted on 04/03/2012 1:54:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (Romney Inc. -- Now attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party.)
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