Posted on 03/18/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by parksstp
March 18, 2012. St. Louis. Its midnight Missouri time and there is still no sign of any winner in the Missouri Caucus. In fact, there are no vote totals, news reports or even a Missouri Republican Party Caucus website. It was there earlier. Now, it simply says, the page doesnt exit. News accounts from earlier in the day before the media black-out detailed near riots from one caucus site to the other as Ron Paul supporters battled the state GOP leadership.
Some of the highlights of news accounts coming in from Missouri include the arrests of two Ron Paul caucus goers, one caucus site being shut down before a vote could be taken, and even the presence of a police helicopter dispatched to the chaotic scene at another caucus site. With all those reports of confrontation, its amazing there are no reports of vote results. The Google and Yahoo election sites are suddenly missing and CNN and Fox News both refused to mention todays caucus even once.
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I will agree with Gingrich on the point that the nominating process has turned into a joke.
as a MO Caucus goer, do you have any information that confirms or denies this story?
parksstp, I can tell you the way the gop is run in MO is discouraging. I know David Cole...he was Chairman of the Barry Co GOP and he is now state chair...dare I print what I think? we are screwed
yeah, that’s about what I thought.
Where were the Gingrich caucus goers?
Same place where Newt was on the February ballot.
Nowhere.
There were few of us as far as I could tell.
Well, then there’s this story from the NY Daily News. I guess no one really knows or what?
Santorum did supposedly win St Louis County. All the other reports are from large countys (without big turnout), but if Santorum won the many small rural counties, perhaps he’s still okay.
Still, the whole process needs a facelift.
Ron Paul has a screw loose.
I didnt go to the caucus here...I do NOT like Cole! have attended several meetings and the voters are silenced..we have steak dinners at Shell Knob and listen to someone play the f'ing duclimer and cant say ONE word regarding politics; or go to barbeques and only certain people speak and control it...it is disgusting imo. There are a bunch of angry folks out here. I should have gone...and my excuse is weak..I was in an auto accident, lost my neighbor in the tornado and my son in laws dad was buried on Sunday..but I should have sucked it up and raised holy hell..
Mitt. Its time you quit!
Your credibility isnt worth spit.
RINOs, the Establishment, and Democrats all agree,
But in the General Election, to Obama theyll flee.
Against Obama, liberals and moderates know youll lose.
But conservatives, Romney theyll never choose.
Mitt, our loyalty you cant buy.
Back to Massachusetts, youd better fly.
Just like Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, and John McCain,
Nominee Willard Mitt Romney will result in the same.
As a Governor, your record isnt that great.
Out of 50 states, your popularity was number 48.
Your experience, the Establishment types tout.
Defending federal bailouts and FDIC loan forgiveness will find you out.
Democrats and RINOs cower from their liberal wives,
Supporting Romney with nothing but lies.
In 1994 Ted Kennedy showed Willard to be a great bane,
With Mitts Bain, and Bain Capital, Obama will do the same.
Damon Corp, with Romney paid $119 million in a fine.
Yet Willard says, for his leadership, its time.
He claims jobs he can create and taxes he can lower,
47th out of 50 in growth he rates. Can it get any slower?
$740.5 million dollars a year, fees and taxes under Mitt increased.
Will the half-truths and lies from Romney ever cease?
For Liberty and Freedom, we dont need Flakes,
But Romney says Healthcare responsibilities belong to the States.
Conservatives stand for Self-responsibility, Self-accountability, and Self-reliance.
But against these things, Willards actions scream in defiance.
Establishment Republicans thinks Romney can help take back the Senate,
But they know that for President, Mitt can NOT win it.
Like everything the Establishment Republicans try to do,
It leads to failure, and we get the bill, as well as the screw.
In their corruption, little change do they seek,
They dont want our Freedom to peak.
Their craving for power has pushed their bravery,
To ignore our Constitution, and sell us into economical slavery.
So Willard, dont lecture us on the need for patience and compromise.
Romney, be selfless. Conservatism is on the rise.
Choosing the lesser of two evils, isnt what we desire.
You let them rewrite the language. Wheres your fire?
Romney, they accuse us falsely, and you do little.
Wheres your response, or can you only twiddle?
Mitt, you dont have what it takes to lead.
So with you I plead.
Do you really want to go from Obama-care to Romney-care?
With you, this nation will pull out its hair!
Go somewhere and quietly think
and sit.
Know your own limitations! Mitt. Its time you quit!
They will still deny it, neither group has a grasp on reality.
Confusion On Caucus Night
The first caucus was a messy process. More than 250 people showed up, most planning to vote directly for the candidates. But that was not to be.
David Cole, the chairman of the Missouri Republican Party, told caucusgoers that they would be voting on delegates to attend district and state conventions. Those meetings are weeks from now, where Missouris actual voting delegates will be decided. The delegates picked in this caucus wont be bound to any particular candidate, and they have to be elected in slates.
The county GOP happened to have a slate prepared, as did the Tea Party. But most folks were blindsided by the rules. Cole apologized to the angry crowd that they werent aware of the process.
The confusion is understandable. The rules for these caucuses are different from county to county. Here in Barry County, only party activists had seen them beforehand. Frank Hubert, a robust 80-year-old in a blue blazer and tie, was one of many to stand up and vent.
What we have had happen tonight is totally unacceptable, and it is a de facto railroad job, he said. Bizarre Process Sparks Frustration
As tempers flared, it was clear the room was sharply divided between Tea Party supporters and traditional Republicans. Some likened it the caucus to the US Congress. Ralph Kelley, a retired engineer, backing Newt Gingrich, stepped out for a smoke.
Any Paultard who thinks Romney will hold firm to any deal made is a freakin idiot.
Not really, political support and arm-twisting was normal in Primaries before WWI and ELECTIONS. The bulk of the delegates were chosen at thousands of small gatherings of party faithful around the country...country and state conventions. Caucus. Sometimes just a vote of the county or precinct board.
I'd appreciate it if you could share the quote from Gingrich if you have it handy.
This would be something I disagree with him on.
I’ll have to go back and check. I believe it was some article here tagged to Newt posted on Wednesday or Thursday from a stop in IL after the AL/MS primaries.
Paraphrasing, but I believe the contention of his was too many states with too many different rules favoring the establishlishment, along with the contention that liberal states, and more significantly, the liberal areas of the liberal states get more than an equal chance of choosing the nominee based on delegate allocation.
I remember reading it and agreeing. If Romney didn’t have the Mormon background that’s been allowing him to win some rural Western states, just about every county he’s won is a county he doesn’t have a prayer of carrying in the General Election. The assumption by the GOP-e is that conservative dissent will fall in-line.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Mitt Romney.
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