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The Mississippization of California
The American Conservative ^ | February 14, 2012 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 02/19/2012 8:37:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Heather Mac Donald says California is in for a huge, demographics-driven economic shift:

California is in the middle of a far-reaching demographic shift: Hispanics, who already constitute a majority of the state’s schoolchildren, will be a majority of its workforce and of its population in a few decades. This is an even more momentous development than it seems. Unless Hispanics’ upward mobility improves, the state risks becoming more polarized economically and more reliant on a large government safety net. And as California goes, so goes the nation, whose own Hispanic population shift is just a generation or two behind.

The scale and speed of the Golden State’s ethnic transformation are unprecedented. In the 1960s, Los Angeles was the most Anglo-Saxon of the nation’s ten largest cities; today, Latinos make up nearly half of the county’s residents and one-third of its voting-age population. A full 55 percent of Los Angeles County’s child population has immigrant parents. California’s schools have the nation’s largest concentration of “English learners,” students from homes where a language other than English is regularly spoken. From 2000 to 2010, the state’s Hispanic population grew 28 percent, to reach 37.6 percent of all residents, almost equal to the shrinking white population’s 40 percent. Nearly half of all California births today are Hispanic. The signs of the change are everywhere—from the commercial strips throughout the state catering to Spanish-speaking customers, to the flea markets and illegal vendors in such areas as MacArthur Park in Los Angeles, to the growing reach of the Spanish-language media.

The poor Mexican immigrants who have fueled the transformation—84 percent of the state’s Hispanics have Mexican origins—bring an admirable work ethic and a respect for authority too often lacking in America’s native-born population. Many of their children and grandchildren have started thriving businesses and assumed positions of civic and economic leadership. But a sizable portion of Mexican, as well as Central American, immigrants, however hardworking, lack the social capital to inoculate their children reliably against America’s contagious underclass culture. The resulting dysfunction is holding them back and may hold California back as well.

Read the whole thing. Lots of startling information in the piece, at least startling to me. For example:

The University of California, California State University, and the community-college system already grant in-state tuition to illegal aliens. (Back in 2003, when then–UC regent Ward Connerly asked university officials why illegal aliens should get a $12,000 annual tuition break when, say, a citizen from Washington State did not, they answered: Our budget will be cut if we don’t go along.) This past October, however, Brown signed a bill going even further and granting illegal aliens taxpayer-funded tuition assistance and fee waivers. The so-called California Dream Act was not a popular bill, except among Latinos: 55 percent of voters opposed the law, and only 30 percent of whites supported it, but 79 percent of Latinos approved of it. In one generation, observes CSU San Jose political scientist Larry Gerston, California has gone from outlawing affirmative action and banning nonessential government services to illegal aliens to granting them free tuition subsidies, a change that “speaks to the growing pressure of Latinos on the legislative process.”

Mac Donald says in the piece that California’s future looks a lot like Mississippi’s present.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; economy; hispanics; mississippi
Comments?
1 posted on 02/19/2012 8:37:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a link to MacDonald’s piece in City Journal: http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_1_california-demographics.html.


2 posted on 02/19/2012 8:42:39 PM PST by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heather MacDonald’s article is right on the money.


3 posted on 02/19/2012 8:43:18 PM PST by U-238
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Comments? "

Hispanics are White (or indian).

4 posted on 02/19/2012 8:46:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is some good news here. CA will reach a point where its populace can no longer contribute enough money to finance all its utopian laws and regulations.


5 posted on 02/19/2012 8:48:49 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 02/19/2012 8:49:41 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears that a majority of California’s residents will not be American citizens. Secession, leading to its becoming officially a state of the Republic of Mexico, seems a likely outcome, resulting a a few hundred more miles of open border. Just kidding?? I’m not sure.


7 posted on 02/19/2012 8:52:08 PM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: umgud

I don’t know if it’s good news. The socialists in DC will take money from the rest of us to bail them out.


8 posted on 02/19/2012 8:57:30 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

What is that ‘map’ from?


9 posted on 02/19/2012 9:10:47 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just because I might eat a burrito once in a while, doesn’t mean that I want to live in the fewking barrio.

I’m already sick of the invasion, and can’t wait to get out.

Not so sure about that respect for authority thing either, given how many illegals are incarcerated and how many continue to commit carnage on the roads here.


10 posted on 02/19/2012 9:17:25 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just because I might eat a burrito once in a while, doesn’t mean that I want to live in the fewking barrio.

I’m already sick of the invasion, and can’t wait to get out.

Not so sure about that respect for authority thing either, given how many illegals are incarcerated and how many continue to commit carnage on the roads here. Also don’t forget their high rate of teen pregnancies, their high dropout rate, and all those wonderful sex offenders and their charming custom of “rapto.”


11 posted on 02/19/2012 9:18:39 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is news?

Been going down some 40 years now. We've been voting, demonstrating, legislating...nothing changes it.

Some freaks who live east of the Mississippi don't see it as a problem - giving away the nicest state in the Union to Mexico.

But it's a done deal now.

What will it look like?

We have a little laboratory: it's called Mexico.

Hasn't changed much in 500 years.

No reason to believe California won't end up looking the same.

12 posted on 02/19/2012 9:35:10 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
That is exactly what is happening. I live in San Diego County and the southern half of this state is slowly transforming into Northern Tijuana. Eventually law enforcement agencies will be forced to retreat north and declare this portion of California a “no go zone” right about the time the narcos start rampaging around this area.

One thing that the government won't tell you is many of these illegals are armed to the teeth once they have settled here, and automatic weapons are widespread in all Latino majority communities. As long as they are not violent, they are left alone and are allowed to do as they please. Eventually, it will be too late to do anything meaningful about it, and that point has likely been passed a long time ago.

Welcome to the third world shithole that was formerly a beautiful place to live in the U.S.

13 posted on 02/19/2012 10:25:21 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Elsiejay

Read Matthew Bracken’s books.


14 posted on 02/19/2012 10:29:24 PM PST by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how or why should illegals be able to exert pressure on California?


15 posted on 02/20/2012 1:26:00 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so whites in Kali will now vote 90 percent GOP like they do in Mississippi?

the highest percentage in the country even with 40 percent black population

fat chance...lol

Mississippi has not had the taxable riches California enjoys since 1860

now stuck with a huge Dem voting bloc of dependents

but very different white people....like from different planets


16 posted on 02/20/2012 1:35:14 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Pox

Not only CA, but most of the American Southwest, too. My question is will they draw a line of demarcation with the muslims who will by then rule the upper Midwest, or will the two entities just battle it out for the whole enchilada?


17 posted on 02/20/2012 1:44:59 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: ScottinVA

Don’t write off the upper midwest to moslems. 30 below keeps out the riff raff.


18 posted on 02/20/2012 2:46:01 AM PST by x_plus_one (there is an unholy alliance between the Left and Islam, with radical Islam using the Liberal media)
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To: NakedRampage

That was a billboard from Absolut Vodka here in California


19 posted on 02/20/2012 4:12:08 AM PST by Haddit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 02/20/2012 4:53:15 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: x_plus_one

I wish that were the case, but the growing Somali presence in Minnesota is one example that disproves that theory.


21 posted on 02/20/2012 5:00:27 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The things one receive when one votes democrat.


22 posted on 02/20/2012 5:06:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My generation is probably the last to have bought into the California dream-we are the Golden State, always prosperous before and always will be. Yet our last great enterprise-Silicon Valley-is becoming more and more a memory. Unless our new Hispanic and Asian neighbors can make a go of entrepreneurship in these restricted times-and granted, there are people who want to move up in these groups-I’d say we’re done for. Increasingly, California is looking like a 21st century Argentina; just shut off the water valves to the farms they way Peron destroyed the meat industry and we’re set on our course.


23 posted on 02/20/2012 5:40:44 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

24 posted on 02/20/2012 7:20:56 AM PST by HiJinx (I can (still) see Mexico from my back porch.)
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To: Vaduz

Except at some point, the Democrat party is not Marxist enough for them. The only thing that keeps two white, elderly Jewish ladies as senators from California is the slight threat that some Republican might get elected in their place. Once this threat is gone, how long do you really think it will take a PRI equivalent to replace soft European style socialism brand carried by our current Democrat Party?


25 posted on 02/20/2012 7:40:15 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another long winded discussion about Americans and latinos. Notice how they have successfully made the issue about latinos - legal or not. If you are against this you are racist. It’s that simple - to them.

This nation is losing itself very quickly. The whole idea that we have discussions about a “race” of people inherently defined as something other than Americans means we have already lost.


26 posted on 02/20/2012 8:10:47 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: tanuki

Say, what are you complaining about? We’re going to have HIGH SPEED RAIL built by the Chinese, paid for by not-taxed-enough citizen taxpayers, starting nowhere and ending miles from nowhere.

Let’s count our blessings.


27 posted on 02/20/2012 8:14:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"bring an admirable work ethic and a respect for authority too often lacking in America’s native-born population. "

The author is racist and a liar. How's that for a comment?
28 posted on 02/20/2012 8:26:31 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

The author is a young white man imbued with a deep sense of white guilt which as embarassing as that is masks it with faux intellectual snobbery, just like his lefty counterparts.


29 posted on 02/20/2012 8:39:50 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When “white guilt” the concept is shoveled into the ashbin of history then expect real change.


30 posted on 02/20/2012 8:42:45 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: junta

In other words, he got his indoctrination from the California public school system, corrupted long ago by the globalists and communists.

When Californians are allowed a proper schooling by freedom loving Americans, the State may have a chance to turn itself around.


31 posted on 02/20/2012 9:02:06 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you, Republicrats/Dimicans.

One party, two wings, both of which are open-borders, back multiculturalism, want cheap domestic labor, and could not care less about American taxpayers.


32 posted on 02/20/2012 9:31:28 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Vigilanteman

European style socialism is at full speed in Ca. there isn’t anything that can’t be had for free here.
It’s why illegals love it here thanks to the democrat party,Ca. is the test bed for the socialiam program.


33 posted on 02/20/2012 10:56:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If they're ILLEGALS they're not "immigrants". I get very tired of that word being used to describe folks who come here not to work and act responsibly, but to take every possible bennie while having six kids they can't support and don't supervise.

They're parasites, not "immigrants". The latter is a term worthy of respect.

34 posted on 02/20/2012 2:33:11 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: jimt
Kinda of funny....on one thread you say U.S. citizens disagreeing with others...is "hateful".

But here you say people not here legally are "parasites"....

Could a person say you are hateful?

Could a person say you are personalizing your disagreement with them?

Could a person say you are totally against their being here...but don't hate them specifically?

35 posted on 02/20/2012 2:41:55 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IN two, three, or at most, four General Elections, those anchor babies will be voting.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.


36 posted on 02/20/2012 3:04:57 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoops!

Study: 70% of Texas’ illegal immigrant families receive welfare

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/04/study-70-of-texas-illegal-immigrant-families-receive-welfare/


37 posted on 02/20/2012 3:20:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NakedRampage

It was from a vodka add a few year back. “Absolut Vodka” ran a campaign, “in an Absolt world”. The map was from their Mexican ad.


38 posted on 02/20/2012 3:32:25 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; Haddit

Well screw them then. They can kiss my American ass.


39 posted on 02/20/2012 3:54:12 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: x_plus_one
Don’t write off the upper midwest to moslems. 30 below keeps out the riff raff.

Minnesota's Muslim population has probably increase 400 percent since 1990.

Did ya know under Bush, after 911, more Muslims were allowed entry into the U.S. than in the previous two decades?

40 posted on 02/20/2012 8:26:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We (Californians) tried to stop this back in 1994 with Prop 187.

But we even though we passed Prop 187 we were defeated by a scheming federal judge, the Democratic Party, and the traitorous Open Border wing of the GOP. We had Bill Bennett and Jack Kemp fly out here to oppose us. And of course when the appalling Dubya took office he threw gasoline on the illegal alien fire.


41 posted on 02/20/2012 9:17:04 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: NakedRampage

That was a unanimous sentiment here back when the ad campaign was running. I’m sure there are Freepers who have sworn off Absolut vodka permanently just because of that Mexican ad.


42 posted on 02/20/2012 10:55:40 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: Pelham

You forgot Newt, who betrayed you in Congress by deep sixing the Jordan Commission.


43 posted on 02/21/2012 1:09:57 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

“You forgot Newt, who betrayed you in Congress by deep sixing the Jordan Commission.”

Newt has a history of betraying his conservative allies but I’d forgotten that one. Even Clinton supported the Jordan Commission proposals, but never underestimate the ability of open border Republicans to be as far Left as possible when it comes to immigration.

Barbara Jordan was a black Texas Democrat who was also a patriot. One of the great tragedies is that she died before she could rally some of her party of join with conservative Republicans to do something about the border.

“While she was Chair of the US Commission on Immigration Reform she argued that “it is both a right and a responsibility of a democratic society to manage immigration so that it serves the national interest.” Her stance on immigration is cited by opponents of current US immigration policy who cite her willingness to penalize employers who violate US immigration regulations, to tighten border security, and to oppose amnesty or any other pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants and to broaden the grounds for the deportation of legal immigrants.”


44 posted on 02/21/2012 8:18:30 AM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Little Ray; Freedom_Is_Not_Free; Haddit; rmlew; NakedRampage; Kenny Bunk

http://tinyurl.com/72j7s4p

Mexican Flag Day event held in Santa Ana

February 20th, 2012, 3:00 pm · · posted by Theresa Cisneros

Veronnika Diaz was among those who performed during the Mexican Flag Day celebration in Santa Ana.

About 7,000 people attended a Mexican Flag Day ceremony in downtown Santa Ana on Sunday afternoon, aimed at honoring the Mexican and American flags and educating many in the audience about their Mexican roots.

The eighth annual event – which featured flag presentations, live entertainment, a brief history lesson and more – ran from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. in Plaza Santa Ana, an outdoor space at the corner of Fourth and French streets.

The gathering was sponsored by Los 32 Por Mexico en Orange County – a group dedicated to preserving Mexican culture and traditions – and was supported by members of ADELSA (Asociacion de Empresarios Latinos de Santa Ana) – a group of Latino-owned businesses in Santa Ana.

Día de la Bandera (Flag Day) is observed in Mexico on Feb. 24. Mike Gonzalez, a business owner and president of Los 32 por Mexico, said his group usually holds its event on the nearest Sunday to the holiday.

Sunday’s celebration started off with a salute to the flag of the United States.

“We wanted this to be a tribute to this great nation, which has taken us in and given us so much,” Gonzalez said.
It continued with a rendition of the Mexican national anthem, a lesson on the Mexican flag and its symbolism, and a procession of young women wearing traditional outfits from each of Mexico’s 32 states.

The day also included entertainment by ballet folklorico groups, solo artists and musical groups.

The goal, Gonzalez said, was to educate Mexican immigrants and their children about their heritage.

“We want them to be proud to be Mexican,” he said in Spanish. “We want parents to keep that umbilical cord to Mexico intact so that their children can grow up strong and knowledgeable about their rich culture.”


45 posted on 02/21/2012 8:25:16 AM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Pelham

Proud to be Mexican. What the hell is there to be proud of. I’m not being slanderous here. America has not only produced a massive bounty of 20th century technical innovations, but she’s fed the world and helped save the Europeans from tyranny in not one but 2 world wars. She has been first in space, broken speed records, dominated world pharmaceutical innovation, cured numerous diseases.

I could go on for 3 pages.

What the hell do Mexicans have to be proud of. They were a 3rd world country until NAFTA in 1994, when our robber barons began loading them up with formerly American factory work. In many ways, Mexico is still a third world country.

What the hell does Mexico have to be proud of? Oil reserves?

What a freaking joke.


46 posted on 02/21/2012 8:35:03 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Priority 1: REPEAL OBAMACARE)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

As I’m sure you know all too well pride is a big part of the Mexican package.

Santa Ana had one killing last year as a result of an argument over which Mexican state is the best. There may have been more than that, but that one happened to make the news.


47 posted on 02/21/2012 9:01:27 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: ScottinVA

There aren’t enough Somali immigrants to go around. Kansas City is bursting at the seams with Moslem Somalis who openly direct their wives (yes polygamists) how to vote in the voting booth. They have received judicial OK to do so after a losing candidate sued. No more secret ballot in Kansas City. No more free and fair elections.


48 posted on 02/26/2012 7:53:52 AM PST by x_plus_one (there is an unholy alliance between the Left and Islam, with radical Islam using the Liberal media)
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