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Is It a Prison Planet? One Out of Three Now Face Arrest in US
The Daily Bell ^ | 12/19/2011 | Daily Bell

Posted on 12/20/2011 9:24:40 AM PST by JohnKinAK

"Arrest is a pretty common experience," says Robert Brame, a criminologist at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte and principal author of the study. Nearly one in three people will be arrested by the time they are 23, a study to be published today in Pediatrics found. – USA Today

Dominant Social Theme: It's for your own good, dammit.

Free-Market Analysis: This is a stunning statistic, in our view. According to a study generated via numbers collected by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics and reported in USA Today (see above excerpt) one out of every three people in the US will face arrest by the time they are 23.

Not everyone will end up in jail, of course, but the idea that 30 percent of US citizens will have some sort of criminal-oriented interaction with civilian or federal police is surely a startling statistic to many, even American "law-and-order" types.

The article goes on to make the point that nearly 50 years ago US citizens were stunned by a study that found over 20 percent of all US citizens faced some sort of arrest. The interactions between law enforcement and US denizens has thus grown by ten percent in the past decades – or roughly one-third. Here's some more from the article:

Criminologist Alfred Blumstein says the increase in arrests for young people in the latest study is unsurprising given several decades of tough crime policies. "I was astonished 44 years ago. Most people were," says Blumstein, a professor of operations research at the Heinz College at Carnegie Mellon University who served with Christensen on President Lyndon Johnson's crime task force.

Now, Blumstein says, youth may be arrested for drugs and domestic violence, which were unlikely offenses to attract police attention in the 1960s. "There's a lot more arresting going on now," he says.

The new study is an analysis of data collected between 1997 and 2008 by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The annual surveys conducted over 11 years asked children, teens and young adults between the ages of 8 and 23 whether they had ever been arrested by police or taken into custody for illegal or delinquent offenses.

The question excluded only minor traffic offenses, so youth could have included arrests for a wide variety of offenses such as truancy, vandalism, underage drinking, shoplifting, robbery, assault and murder — any encounter with police perceived as an arrest, Brame says. Some of the incidents perceived and reported by the young people as arrests may not have resulted in criminal charges, he says.

What is astonishing – as related above – is these figures do NOT apparently include many traffic offenses, which is where most people might be expected to have the most police interaction at any age – and especially at a youthful one.

So what's changed? The article quotes criminologist Megan Kurlychek as saying that localities handled many minor offenses more informally 40 years ago than they do now. "Society is a lot less tolerant of these teenage behaviors," she says.

The ramifications of so many arrests are as serious as the figures are startling. In modern society, arrest records follow people wherever they go (certainly in the US) and interfere with the ability to gain access to student loans and housing, or even to find a job.

Kurlychek is quoted as saying "Arrests have worse consequences than ever for these juveniles and follow the individual forever." And she adds, "The average teenager who steals an iPod or is arrested for possession of marijuana — why do we make that define their lives?"

Such statistics are the reason why we've written a series of articles about private justice and claimed that the current state-run justice system in the US and the West is simply one more elite dominant social theme on its way to collapse in this Internet era.

We've also written that the "state-run justice meme" will be one of the last to collapse because it is one of the most important and heavily promoted. Most people simply cannot conceive of a justice system that takes place in the absence of a state intermediary.

Of course, hundreds of years ago people would not have been able to conceive of the system that is in place now. The idea that the state provides (pays for) lawmakers, judges, juries, prosecutors, police and penitentiaries would have been seen as the worst form of totalitarianism.

Today, people still cannot conceive of another system even though countries are jailing increasing numbers of people or, as in China, executing them arbitrarily for "crimes" such as drug-dealing that would not even have been punishable in past centuries.

The US is perhaps the biggest offender in terms of incarceration rates. Not only – as we can see from this article – are criminal interactions at an all-time high, but the incarceration rate in the US is the highest in the world by far, with some 3-4 million people under lock and key at any one time.

The system itself is increasingly ludicrous. At some point the cost to society of passing so many laws, generating so many criminals and then locking them up will become insupportable. The alternative will be seemingly to having a society in which half the population is incarcerated while the other half finds employment as prison guards.

For tens of thousands of years, people utilized what we call private justice. There were detailed arrangements worked out to deter crime – including vendettas and duels. Justice also took place on a clan level and within the context of agreed-upon private judges.

This latter arrangement was "lower-case" common law and likely did not rely on precedent, which is another part of modern justice's insupportable arrangements. Every "case" is supposed to generate a "precedent" which is then reapplied in the name of "fairness."

Of course there is nothing fair about it all. The result is merely an appreciating level of charges that can be brought for any given human behavior. "The more laws, the more criminals," – supposedly an old Japanese proverb. Here are some recent article we've written on private justice and the necessity to return to it within the context of the current insupportable nature of the Western system:

There likely is no such thing as "justice." It is an abstract concept – like a nation-state or fiat money. These are dominant social themes created and implemented by a voracious power elite that hopes to leverage its control into world domination.

So what is justice really? It is merely the ability of people to work out their differences in the least murderous way possible with the least amount of damage to their lives. Does the current system, with its emphasis on a hypothetical "debt to society" perform the requisite task efficiently? To ask that question is to answer it.

Conclusion: No.


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The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government. Tacitus
1 posted on 12/20/2011 9:24:44 AM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws.”
— Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”


2 posted on 12/20/2011 9:26:52 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: JohnKinAK
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

-- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

3 posted on 12/20/2011 9:29:34 AM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: mgstarr

Beat me to it by a hair’s breadth.


4 posted on 12/20/2011 9:30:30 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: JohnKinAK

BTTT


5 posted on 12/20/2011 9:31:18 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: JohnKinAK

I wonder what percentage of these individuals was arrested because of America’s failed drug war.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 9:31:42 AM PST by JosephMama (Who to choose, who to choose...)
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To: JohnKinAK

There is no law the state will not abuse.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 9:32:42 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: mgstarr

The extended version of that quote is the first one on my FR profile page. It is first for reason.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 9:35:52 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JohnKinAK

I think the headline is misleading. 100% of us face arrest.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 9:36:17 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: JohnKinAK

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. Simple.

How many guilty are in the prison? Do we want those people out?


10 posted on 12/20/2011 9:38:25 AM PST by sagar
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To: JohnKinAK
...one out of every three people in the US will face arrest by the time they are 23.

I don't believe the statistic.

This reminds me of the crap put out a few years ago that one out of 11 children had been kidnapped. Turned out they were counting fathers returning their OWN children after visitation if they were more than 10 minutes late.

My guess? The usual criminals who commit 60 crimes by the time they're 23 are averaged in making the numbers a lie.

11 posted on 12/20/2011 9:38:51 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: JohnKinAK

Combination of stupid laws and lawless people.

Loadup on ammo folks, its the Takers Generation.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 9:39:23 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JohnKinAK
Er, we're not just taking the gross number of arrests and dividing by the number of people, right? It looks as the investigators really did measure the number of individuals who have been arrested.

And here's another thing not mentioned: It's mostly males who are arrested. First, they do more mischief. And secondly, they're more likely to be arrested for any piece of mischief they do, compared to a girl who does the same act. Plus, only males are arrested for "domestic violence."

That would suggest that, if the numbers are right, about 1 in 2 males, or 50 percent, has been arrested by the age of 23.

I have trouble believing that. The sample must be skewed. I'm sure there's a trend, but this sounds hugely exaggerated. Did they only sample inner cities and the Mexican border?

And the article itself seems to assume some view of the world that's foreign to me. "State" justice as an extraordinary state of affairs? What's the alternative? The local landowner and his men keeping order, and trying and executing malefactors? It could work, I suppose, and was the system in ancient times. But I don't think it's all that common in societies that have flush-toilets.

13 posted on 12/20/2011 9:40:06 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: JohnKinAK

Where in the hell do they get these statistics? I don’t know anyone who has been arrested for anything, and I’m in my 50s.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 9:40:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: JohnKinAK

At some point, being arrested becomes meaningless if everything is a crime of some sort.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 9:42:21 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: JohnKinAK

Look on the bright side - no one is going to attack you for your freedoms again.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 9:43:31 AM PST by Cardhu
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To: FreedomPoster

Great minds think alike - it is first on my profile as well.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 9:46:25 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: SamuraiScot
I have posted this before, it still amazes me to see kids under 18 arrested for possession of cigarettes.
18 posted on 12/20/2011 9:47:50 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: JohnKinAK
If you are ever stopped at a border checkpoint by a young man who wants to see your papers YOU ARE UNDER ARREST.

There are people in this country who cross the border every day into and out of Mexico.

Were they in the study?

19 posted on 12/20/2011 9:48:05 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: JohnKinAK

bookmark


20 posted on 12/20/2011 9:49:53 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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