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Eric Holder and Barack Obama's "mens rea" on Fast and Furious
Coach is Right ^ | 11/29.2011 | Doug Book

Posted on 11/29/2011 9:25:00 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Mens rea is Latin for “guilty mind.” In legal theory acting to set up a crime before committing it indicates a guilty mind; or guilty intent.

In the spring of 2009, just a few months before the Obama Administration instructed the Phoenix ATF office to commence Operation Fast and Furious, Attorney General Eric Holder introduced and secured a curious change to United States gun legislation.

The tracing of firearm serial numbers provides information about the manufacture of a weapon, its original retail seller and buyer, the entire known history of the weapon. For years, anti-gun rights zealots had procured these trace statistics from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for the purpose of initiating frivolous law suits against both gun dealers and manufacturers.

Then, in 2004, Kansas Republican Rep. Todd Tiahrt successfully added an amendment to the yearly ATF funding bill. Known since as the Tiahrt Amendment, the legislation prohibits the sharing of trace information for any but legitimate law enforcement purposes. That is, trace information on firearm serial numbers could only be provided to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies engaged in specific, criminal investigations. Those responsible for left-wing fishing expeditions would no longer have access to trace statistics for the purpose of manufacturing lawsuits.

Then, although Barack Obama and Eric Holder had promised liberal supporters they would fight to overturn the Tiahrt Amendment, in the spring of 2009 Holder lobbied Congress for a change to the Amendment, one which would allow ATF acquired trace data to be provided to “…a foreign law enforcement agency solely in connection with or for use in a criminal investigation or prosecution…”

The Regime was just about to launch the corrupt and murderous Operation Fast and Furious. And it must be remembered that during the year long course of that despicable...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept; tiahrtamendment

1 posted on 11/29/2011 9:25:10 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

These are sneaky people.


2 posted on 11/29/2011 9:40:59 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Where is the Special Prosecutor/Independent Counsel?


3 posted on 11/29/2011 9:54:02 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Oldpuppymax
Mens Rea misunderstanding--Gene Wilder/Richard Pryor [Youtube video--Scene from 'See no evil hear no evil']
4 posted on 11/29/2011 10:15:38 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

On and on and on....ping.


5 posted on 11/29/2011 10:17:58 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thank You for this information

I sent this to my Congressman & I also sent it to Senator Grassley


6 posted on 11/29/2011 10:24:20 AM PST by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Every Cosmo girl knows what mens rea means

7 posted on 11/29/2011 10:38:04 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Oldpuppymax
Mens rea???

Sounds like they are heading to Man Country to save Barney's seat.

8 posted on 11/29/2011 10:44:27 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So the author’s theory is that Holder/Obama lobbied the (then Dem controlled) house and senate to allow the Mexican government access to trace information.

Then they started F&F with the intent of giving the Mexican government the ammunition Mexico needed to sue the daylights out of gun manufacturers and jail gun shop owners.

= = =

I beleive that this is plausible.

The next step would be to investigate who did the lobbying - and can it be traced back to Holder.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 10:58:37 AM PST by kidd
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To: MestaMachine

Very telling.


10 posted on 11/29/2011 11:20:46 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: jmaroneps37
These are sneaky corrupted people.
11 posted on 11/29/2011 12:49:43 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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