Posted on 11/14/2011 11:34:43 PM PST by Kevmo
H3 on the moon is cleaner and a hell of a lot closer.....
No $hit Sherlock. History is being made in front of your face and you refuse to accept it. “head in sand” syndrome.
kilowatt hours measures electricity, E-Cat produces heat.Actually, Watt is a unit of power, regardless of the source of that power.
No, KWh is a measure of energy period, electricity is just one form of that energy. Heat energy can also be expressed as KWh. Where do you think the electrical energy of a 100W incandescent bulb goes? After an hour, it has heated the room by 1KWh expressed as the temperature rise times the volume of the particular material.
In order to be able to evaluate the claims properly we have to reduce all of the energy measurements to the same units and realize that power and energy are related but not the same.
Yay, another Kevmo bullsh*t Rossi scam “reactor” thread!
Rossi is the most entertaining thing to happen around here for a while. Watching the E-Cat saga is like watching a car crash in slow motion!
Yes, new discoveries do come from “outside the field” on occasion.
How many times do they come from people convicted of scientific fraud and flaunting bogus degrees from diploma mills?
“that Rossi, Focardi, Levi, Essén, Kullander, Christos Stremmenos, and a dozen other top scientists”
Are you being serious!? You consider Rossi, whom has been convicted of fraud and PURCHASED HIS ENGINEERING DEGREE FROM A DIPLOMA MILL, a “top scientist?”
There’s no hope for you. I pray that you are not involved with the engineering discipline yourself. God save us if you are a civil engineer! Although, with the poor reasoning you display daily on these threads, I think it’s unlikely you’ve ever darkened the door of a laboratory...
You have to remember that most of this information is transmitted from "science type people" to reporters to us, with a translation from Italian to English thrown in. Errors are to be expected. Go to the LENR-CANR.org "Library" section and read the original reports. You'll find all the information you need, including temperatures and volumes of water.
Bingo. Until someone with a serious Thermodynamics background has full access to the device for testing, it is vaporware to me.
0.1 KWh
A "watt" is a unit of work per unit time, like "horsepower." 745.7 watts = 1 horsepower.a watt-hour is a unit of energy, or work. Energy as work can be very readily converted into energy as heat, for example by use of a brake. Converting energy as heat into energy as work, OTOH, is more difficult. That requires an engine such as a steam engine - and the laws of thermodynamics explain some of the inefficiency in that conversion. Electric energy is work energy because it requires work to turn a generator to produce electric energy, and in principle you can make an electric motor with zero loss using superconductors.
thanks for the correction 0.1 KWh is correct.
Well, I am a science type person used to dealing with other science types for whom English is just the language they publish in. Math is the preferred language of physics discussions and that is what this is. I have detailed in post #20 the conditions which need to be met for this to be science.
These conditions are simple enough to be understood by a lay person and I have used units comfortable to lay people instead of SI. If Rossi wants to publish in the mass media you can't really complain that the explanation is gibberish to the average person if you have made no attempt to make things clear.
turning small amounts of nickel isotopes N-62 and N-64 into the copper isotopes CU-63 and CU-65. Every 6 months the fuel load is refreshed and the old metallic fuel is sold as valuable scrap metal.Rossi claims HERE that in order to create the "fuel" for his E-Cat, he buys ordinary Nickel, and then, somehow, "enhances" the 62Ni and 64Ni isotopes.
However, THIS article states that "The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper."
The article states that this is consistent with some unknown nuclear process. The article neglects to state that, since there is absolutely no sign of any nuclear process in either the fuel or "ash", that it is also consistent with Rossi just adding some Copper powder to some Nickel powder, using nothing more sophisticated than a kitchen scale.
If Rossi's E-Cat device was transmuting Nickel into Copper (regardless of the isotopes involved) it would change the isotope ratios away from the natural occurrences. There's no way to get around this. HERE is a good paper describing the problems with reconciling Rossi's claims with any reasonable nuclear process.
Note that George Miley published a PowerPoint presentation showing that he is getting 39 different non-natural isotope ratios. That kind of evidence would be very difficult and very expensive to fake. Rossi has nothing comparable. Rossi's "fuel" looks like completely ordinary Nickel. Rossi's "ash" looks like completely normal Nickel with some completely normal Copper mixed in.
Not only does Rossi's "fuel" and "ash" samples fail to prove any nuclear reactions, they contradict Rossi's own statement that he is "enhancing" the isotope ratios.
Even more remarkable is Rossi's claim that he is able to "enhance" the 62Ni and 64Ni isotopes. This is the same process that countries like Iran are trying to accomplish in order to produce bomb-grade material for nuclear bombs. It is the kind of industrial process that strains the capability of entire nations. HERE is the Wikipedia article on how this is done. None of the processes are the type of thing that someone could do in their kitchen.
Rossi is claiming that a six-month "fueling" of his E-Cat will cost between $10 and $20 (for upwards of 100 grams of "secret catalyst"). If that's true, he must have a "kitchen table" process to enrich specific isotopes of Nickel for something like $0.10/gram. If he can do this, it would be far more valuable than being able to build a box that produces some hot water and steam. Why isn't he "cashing in" on this process?
What do you mean by frequently?
Do you actually want the information, or is all you want to "piss and moan" about Rossi??
The English in the reports themselves is perfectly clear, probably because they weren't written by Rossi. Rossi has problems with spoken (and rapidly written) English. That's just the way it is. I'm deaf, and have problems with spoken ANYTHING, including English. That's just the way it is. Both of us are doing the best we can with the capabilities we have.
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