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The Fusion Revolution
The Renewable Energy Disaster ^ | Nov 2011 | Christopher Calder

Posted on 11/14/2011 11:34:43 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: Kevmo

20 years ago, somebody set up a table top device that created a little extra heat. Today, lots of people set up table top devices that make a little extra heat. Not much of a revolution, if you ask me.


181 posted on 11/17/2011 5:17:07 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: dinodino
"What do you mean by, “PARTIALLY fraudulent credentials?” Do you dispute that Kensington U. was a diploma mill? Do you dispute that Rossi, to this very day, states that his engineering degree was granted by Kensington U.? Which part of this do you dispute?

Uh, look up his Italian university degree. He has quite legitmate credentials aside from the Kensington U. version.

But you and your ilk simply ignore that part of the equation, posting ONLY items about "Kensington". You guys are as much if not more "con men" than Rossi.

182 posted on 11/17/2011 5:26:50 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dinodino
"Sorry, but you’ve obviously never set up a business and dealt with occupational and business licensees."

True. My business partner handled that part of it.

"Rossi has told the State of FL that his primary business location is his apartment. I believe that in Miami-Dade he has to have city and county occupational licenses as well. For what premises are these granted? How is he able to avoid code violations by registering in his apartment?

Uh, the corporate office "is" usually considered the "primary business location".

"Does your current company claim to have been manufacturing and running “reactors” for the past two years in this secondary location you are referring to? No? Well, that’s EXACTLY what Rossi is claiming."

Well, we've certainly been manufacturing things for the past two years, and some of the components have indeed been reactors. And I think you will find that Rossi's statements have been "at his factory".

183 posted on 11/17/2011 5:34:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dinodino
"By the way, going back to your comments regarding your current company, is its corporate address a fifth-floor apartment, or are its premises correctly zoned? Does your current company have the required operating licenses for your local jurisdiction?"

No, but it "is" in a residential neighborhood. Quite legally under existing local zoning laws. And yes, we have all the necessary documentation needed.

One of the companies we work closely with is located in Houston. If you go to the corporate offices, you will find it is in the middle of a residential neighborhood. The owner bought several houses next door to a strip mall. The houses contain different parts of the company's operations, and the warehouse space of the "strip mall" contains the heavy manufacturing equipment. If you drive through, you will NEVER in a million years guess that a quite large and profitable business office existed there.

Here's a clue......"appearance isn't everything", in fact "looks can be deceiving".

184 posted on 11/17/2011 5:40:38 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dinodino
"By the way, going back to your comments regarding your current company, is its corporate address a fifth-floor apartment, or are its premises correctly zoned? Does your current company have the required operating licenses for your local jurisdiction?"

No, but it "is" in a residential neighborhood. Quite legally under existing local zoning laws. And yes, we have all the necessary documentation needed.

One of the companies we work closely with is located in Houston. If you go to the corporate offices, you will find it is in the middle of a residential neighborhood. The owner bought several houses next door to a strip mall. The houses contain different parts of the company's operations, and the warehouse space of the "strip mall" contains the heavy manufacturing equipment. If you drive through, you will NEVER in a million years guess that a quite large and profitable business office existed there.

Here's a clue......"appearance isn't everything", in fact "looks can be deceiving".

185 posted on 11/17/2011 5:40:40 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Kevmo
Where are the double crossed investors? Where are the irate scammed customers? Where are the gullible venture capitalists who’ve been taken for a ride? Nowhere to be seen. Why has it taken Rossi so long to cash in on this? Wouldn’t he have cashed out at the very peak of the preceedings after the 1MW demo? That’s a bit odd isn’t it, but the pseudos don’t mention this.
Since hearing about Rossi and his E-Cat, I've been researching known "energy" frauds. I've discovered two things:
  1. They typically can drag things out for years
  2. They never have an "exit strategy"
Steorn [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn] has been conning investors for a decade, to the tune of about $20 million.

Tilley [http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Tilley_Foundation,_Inc.] ran his scam for over six years, and conned investors out of millions. By the way, Sterling D. Allan, Rossi's partner, was an enthusiastic believer in Tilley's perpetual motion car (see http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/index.html for a ongoing list of articles. If you want a feel for how this scam played out, read the page from the bottom [oldest] to the top [newest].)

Priest [http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/050502/met_9322821.html] scammed companies including Blockbuster Video and Intel out of millions with nothing more than a hidden VCR and a half-mile-long spool of video cable. This article points out that big companies are often reluctant to prosecute scam artists because of the bad publicity associated with being shown to be chumps.

And, to show that this is nothing new: Keely [http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely.htm shows that these energy scams were going on well over a century ago. It's almost scary how many similarities there are between Keely and Rossi.

186 posted on 11/17/2011 5:41:19 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: dinodino
"Sorry you don’t want to acknowledge them, but you are going to have a hell of a time spinning them as positive or routine in any way. SCAM!

WHERE do you get the idea that I haven't "acknowledged them"? The address is the address.

Again, this is OLD news. You're just moving from beating one dead horse for another.

And you're also nicely proving my point about your complete failure to contribute anything to the SCIENTIFIC discussion on these threads.

187 posted on 11/17/2011 5:44:56 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

So I’m not the only one to notice these characteristics of the Pooh-pooh Tribe.


188 posted on 11/17/2011 7:17:33 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Kevmo

It is a scam Kevmo, there are four groups of people here:
1. shills
2. suckers
3. marks
4. confidence men

Look at these companies, they were created of whole cloth ... they have no history

https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/Corp.asp?1114558

Ampenergo, Inc. - registered as foreign company even though Rossi said it is a US Company.

Registered in 4/6/2011 -— come on, people are fools

Has an address by one of Rossi’s buddies and then says the state of business is OH.

He says the corporation is in OH....

That record is ..
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:2980395240332762::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:1852164

Created 4/20/2009 ... again recent ... not been in business for any length of time to be even half of what Rossi has claimed.

Actually, the record in OH I believe is being hijacked by using the record in NH. That is why it has a different address than the OH record. But it says its state of business is OH.

WILLIAM F. BLAKE, JR.
4110 SUNSET BOULEVARD
STEUBENVILLE,OH 43952
Effective Date: 04/20/2009
Contact Status: Active


189 posted on 11/17/2011 7:59:10 AM PST by dila813
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To: Wonder Warthog

There is only ONE reason anyone would buy a fake diploma: to make other people think he has a legitimate diploma. Consequently, Rossi aims to defraud.


190 posted on 11/17/2011 9:25:14 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog

“LOL. So you finally figured out that “Leonardo Technologies” is a different entity than “Leonardo Corporation”. You’re about a month behind the curve.”

Why is Rossi deliberately using a false name for his company? Could it be that he intends to deceive?


191 posted on 11/17/2011 9:28:55 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog

You REALLY think that Rossi’s fifth floor apartment is zoned commercial? What a load. Bet you money that if I placed a call to Miami-Dade code enforcement they’d disagree with you.


192 posted on 11/17/2011 9:32:09 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog

Hey, and I’ll bet you another thing: if I were to walk into the offices of the company you’re talking about, I will find all the required notices, permits, and licenses posted for public inspection, as required by law.

Can I walk into Rossi’s fifth floor apartment and see the same? Should I ask code enforcement to do that? If I cannot, why not?


193 posted on 11/17/2011 9:36:49 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog

“Uh, the corporate office ‘is’ usually considered the ‘primary business location’”

False, in Rossi’s case. He claims to be running a manufacturing concern. The company’s core business activities are conducted in his factory. Where is the factory? At what address can the local authorities exercise their inspection rights?


194 posted on 11/17/2011 9:39:19 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
"There is only ONE reason anyone would buy a fake diploma: to make other people think he has a legitimate diploma. Consequently, Rossi aims to defraud.

Sorry, but unless you're clairvoyant, you cannot know that.

"Why is Rossi deliberately using a false name for his company? Could it be that he intends to deceive?"

What makes you think that it's a "false name"?? Rather than simply similar. As I understand it, the company he was a partner in (and worked for) was "Leonardo Technologies". He sold his share of that company to finance the E-Cat project. His new company is "Leonardo Corporation". There is nothing at all unusual about it.

"You REALLY think that Rossi’s fifth floor apartment is zoned commercial? What a load. Bet you money that if I placed a call to Miami-Dade code enforcement they’d disagree with you.

Neither I nor you know one way or another. There are "business apartments" as well as "residential apartments" in high-rises, some all one function, and some both, and many high-rises have businesses on the ground floor.

If you wanta call the Miami bureaucracy, have at it. You've been threatening to do that for probably six months.

"Can I walk into Rossi’s fifth floor apartment and see the same? Should I ask code enforcement to do that? If I cannot, why not?

Go for it.

"False, in Rossi’s case. He claims to be running a manufacturing concern. The company’s core business activities are conducted in his factory.

Complete BS. The Boeing Corporation has it's business address in Chicago. It has ZERO manufacturing plants/operations in Chicago.

"Where is the factory? At what address can the local authorities exercise their inspection rights?

At the listed business office, of course. Where they can ask the location of any manufacturing facilities.

And next time why not consolidate all your BS in one reply instead of a "free-association stream of consciousness".

195 posted on 11/17/2011 10:26:45 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Are you mentally ill? I never even though of calling anyone in Miami until today. Where do you get this “threatening to do that for...six months stuff?”

I’ll be happy to consolidate my posts as soon as you and Kevmo consolidate all your bullsh*t Rossi scam threads into one single, master scam thread.


196 posted on 11/17/2011 11:07:47 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well, Professor, looks like you are flat wrong again. Here’s a link to Miami-Dade’s site, and if you pull up the map, you will see that Rossi’s building is zoned residential:

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/planning/scroll.aspx?id=25704

Here’s what the County says on the subject:

“Home-Based Business

If you plan to conduct business from your home, you must check with the Zoning Department of the City or the County where you reside. You may not be allowed to conduct business in an area that is zoned residential. Miami-Dade County Code 8A.178.1”

You can see this here:

http://www.miamidade.gov/taxcollector/ol_home.asp#Restricted

Are you going to continue suggesting that Rossi’s little apartment is zoned commercial? Keep it up, it’s very amusing!


197 posted on 11/17/2011 11:19:15 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
"Are you mentally ill? I never even though of calling anyone in Miami until today. Where do you get this “threatening to do that for...six months stuff?”

LOL. Your memory is as bad as your logic. You replied to something from me with EXACTLY the same scenario as you have here.

I’ll be happy to consolidate my posts as soon as you and Kevmo consolidate all your bullsh*t Rossi scam threads into one single, master scam thread.

Since there is no mechanism for allowing a "single, master thread" on FR, your proposal appears impractical. Consolidating "replies" OTOH simply requires waiting a few minutes to collect your thoughts.

"If you plan to conduct business from your home, you must check with the Zoning Department of the City or the County where you reside. You may not be allowed to conduct business in an area that is zoned residential. Miami-Dade County Code 8A.178.1”

Note the word in bold....."may" is not "will". Evidently variances are not unknown.

But enough is enough. You've wasted enough of my time. Any future response from you other than about scientific or technical aspects will be ignored.

198 posted on 11/17/2011 12:43:45 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dinodino

IF you have Rossi info, I’d be happy to contact the authorities in his area if he is oeprating a fusion reaction system in Miami, especially in a residential area. Nuclear materials are strictly regulated.


199 posted on 11/17/2011 3:01:30 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad

Well, I suppose at minimum his downstairs neighbor might want to know about it. Banging around upstairs is one thing, but if Rossi is shooting neutrons into his neighbors’ apartments, that’s quite another.

Seriously, his building is zoned multi-unit residential. There is ZERO chance that he is allowed to build nuclear reactors there.


200 posted on 11/17/2011 4:13:39 PM PST by dinodino
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