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Grand Rants ^ | 10-11-11 | Stoutcat

Posted on 10/11/2011 9:17:15 AM PDT by Stoutcat

No, we’re not talking about Fast and Furious today. We’re talking about what a beautiful weekend it was, and how much fun it was to go to the bucolic and gorgeous Cape Cod Fish and Game club and do some shooting!

Some of you may remember reading my post about the process of getting a license in Massachusetts from last year. Since then, about the only thing I’ve done, gun-wise, was purchase a S&W kit gun, which is a nice little revolver; but after taking it to the range and trying it out, I found I didn’t really enjoy shooting it. What to do, what to do?

Off to the gun store again, to trade it in for a Walther P22 and a Henry Survival Rifle.

First off, CCF&G is a lovely club, embodying so much that is beautiful about life on Cape Cod. Set in a rural area, there’s a trap area, rifle range, pistol range, and soon-to-be-opened plinking range. Plus an outdoor archery trail, and indoor archery range, and an indoor pistol range still in process. Plus, there’s a pond to swim, kayak, or fish in. Best of all possible worlds, eh...

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KEYWORDS: banglist; blog; henry; shooting; survivalrifle; walther
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1 posted on 10/11/2011 9:17:18 AM PDT by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

I don’t really see the point of the S&W Kit Gun.


2 posted on 10/11/2011 9:25:27 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Well, it was small and light, and as a woman with small hands, it seemed like it might be a good fit for me. Sadly, it was a bit too small. It’s a beautiful gun, but obviously not the best choice for everyone.


3 posted on 10/11/2011 9:28:32 AM PDT by Stoutcat (I aim to misbehave)
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To: smokingfrog
"I don’t really see the point of the S&W Kit Gun"

Light, compact, rugged, accurate, dependable, effective backpocket/holster clipped-to-your-backpack weapon for snakes/trail obstacles. 50 rounds of hollowpoints fit in a shirt pocket. If you spend some time on the trail,your questions should be answered.

4 posted on 10/11/2011 9:54:09 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Stoutcat

I have a kit gun 4 inch barrel that I have carried everywhere while hunting. It is an opportunity gun, to have with you to shoot small game when they pop up unexpectedly while big game hunting, at least for me. I always make sure to have it and 100 rounds in my jacket pocket.


5 posted on 10/11/2011 10:00:17 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Stoutcat

This is the second time I’ve seen the term “kit gun”.

What is it supposed to mean?


6 posted on 10/11/2011 10:02:26 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Chainmail
Light, compact, rugged, accurate, dependable, effective backpocket/holster clipped-to-your-backpack weapon for snakes/trail obstacles. 50 rounds of hollowpoints fit in a shirt pocket. If you spend some time on the trail,your questions should be answered

Hmm. Chainmail I am afraid I side with the original author, who said it was"small and light, but... a bit too small"

I tell ya what if I DID spend much time on a trail I'd want something a bit "larger" too. I like numbers like .44, .45 or even .50. Of course no one said those were "light" numbers, and you'd be hard-pressed to fit 50 rounds in a shirt pocket.

YMMV

7 posted on 10/11/2011 10:04:36 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. Right there next to the potatoes or rice or vegetables.)
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To: Chainmail

... but it needs a longer barrel.

If we’re talking survival weapons, I’d rather not have something in aluminum.

A Taurus Tracker in stainless steel cost half as much, though would be much heavier, and a S&W 617 will give you 10 shots.


8 posted on 10/11/2011 10:06:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Pessimist

“kit gun”

I used build airplane kits as a kid and I wondered why the S&W .22 was called a `kit gun’ since it obviously came fully assembled.

It’s a gun small enough to carry in your personal kit, tackle box or whatever you carry field gear in. Not a sidearm, just something extra.

The Smith & Wesson is a little small for me, I carry my grandfather’s H&R Sportsman .22, a larger revolver holding nine shots, with a longer barrel.


9 posted on 10/11/2011 10:16:20 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Pessimist; elcid1970
Meant for a small “kit” or pack.

I take mine fishing. It is a good side arm for hunting since you already have a rifle. Good for finishing shots, rabbits and best of all, grouse.

Mine fits me well with over-sized rubber grips. It is also pretty rare in that it has two cylinders, one .22 LR and the other .22 magnum. Fine little S&W wheel gun.

10 posted on 10/11/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: China Clipper; smokingfrog
Doesn't sound like either one of you have done any serious way-up-in-the-mountains hiking.. I own plenty of healthy caliber stuff but no way would I carry a .45 up Mt. Whitney and 20 miles inland. A good .22LR pistol or AR-7 folding rifle is easier to bring along and protects just fine as long as you are a reasonable shot, keeps rattlesnakes and other critters down, and if you get yourself in that position, can keep you fed too (I even got a good-size trout with a .22 - near the surface - once).

The kit gun is stainless steel, not aluminum... you wouldn't have any durability problems with it. As far as aluminum goes, my little Armalite AR-7 is still going strong since I bought it in the El Toro PX in 1969. I have put tens of thousands of .22 through it and hiked hundreds of miles with it. Great rifle!

11 posted on 10/11/2011 12:01:44 PM PDT by Chainmail
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There was absolutely nothing wrong with the S&W kit gun, it’s VERY high quality. It was just not comfortable for me to shoot.

We also got the Henry Survival rifle, a GREAT gun that dis-assembles and stores easily in its own buttstock. Light, compact, great accuracy, just toss it in your backpack and go! Love it.


12 posted on 10/11/2011 1:04:55 PM PDT by Stoutcat (I aim to misbehave)
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To: Chainmail
Doesn't sound like either one of you have done any serious way-up-in-the-mountains hiking..

Guilty as charged. But I would still not want to be out and about without a bit more punch then a .22, either mucking around a mountain or whatever. But I am not one to commune with nature, I'd rather eat it. Again, JMHO.

13 posted on 10/11/2011 1:10:31 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. Right there next to the potatoes or rice or vegetables.)
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To: Stoutcat
Understood. The little J-frane grip is hard to use but they do make some great aftermarket grips that improve things.

For all my blather about the kit gun, my for real backpack pistol is a Walther PPK in .22LR. Probably makes collectors wince but that little puppy is very compact, carries ten rounds per loading, and is match pistol accurate..

Your Henry survival rifle is identical to my cherished AR-7 survival rifle - designed by Eugenes Stoner, no less! I carry mine assembled, using a boot lace as a sling with some band-aids, a compass, spare ammo, and some fishing line/hooks in the butt.

Great piece of gear!

14 posted on 10/11/2011 1:33:13 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: elcid1970

Hmmm...Kit gun...never heard that before...but understand the “kit” name now...carry in your “kit”.....heck I have three of those, Victory Model S$W 38s, one in Special, one in 38 S&W, and one that was 38 S$W and retrofitted after the war to take specials....Each with different barrel lengths....I really like all three of them. Great shooters.


15 posted on 10/11/2011 1:40:21 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Chainmail

I have a little Beretta Cheetah Model 87 in 22LR that I absolutely love.....looks nearly the same as my 85FS in 32ACP...with the Beretta Wood grips, they look fantastic - like a much smaller 92/96FS


16 posted on 10/11/2011 1:42:17 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Stoutcat

Went to a benchrest match and won the whole thing! Beat 4 former Super Shoot winners! That’s a nice weekend!


17 posted on 10/11/2011 1:52:48 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: China Clipper
Hah! I knew it...Very few other people out there are as dumb as I am..

I used to climb a lot to find unexplored aircraft wrecks in California and Hawaii. Never had to shoot anything more harmful than rattlesnakes during the expeditions but I got dozens of them in California. Best wreck I ever found was a nearly complete and intact P-47D Thunderbolt at Kahoolawe island, Hawaii. Dang wing guns were still loaded with 1942 lot ammo!

18 posted on 10/11/2011 1:55:30 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail
Now that's awesome!
19 posted on 10/11/2011 2:02:07 PM PDT by Stoutcat (I aim to misbehave)
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