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Any Freepers an expert in Mayan artifacts?

Posted on 10/09/2011 7:15:04 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny

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To: big bad easter bunny

I am not an expert.

But I have and do collect Mexican art although no ancient art. I have collected for almost 50 years. All of my furniture has benn brought up from Mexico [mostly Zacatecas], and I collect Mexican fine art [modern].

I have collect Mexican folk art since a teenager and was the manager of a large Mexican folk art store.

I buy old Mexican masks on eBay that cost more than your old “death mask”.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 7:38:48 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Lockbar

That’s exactly what I was afraid of!


22 posted on 10/09/2011 7:39:09 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny (Cain 2012)
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To: big bad easter bunny

Dont know anything about it, it is real nice, that I can tell you.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 7:39:52 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Lockbar

Haha ...


24 posted on 10/09/2011 7:40:09 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: big bad easter bunny

Looks vaguely Olmecan because of the mouth design (the famous jaguar mouth), but even there it is loose and uneven. Really hard to say with anything based on a photo and not an experts opinion.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 7:43:08 PM PDT by februus
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I think it is Ed Asner, but I can’t be sure!


26 posted on 10/09/2011 7:44:40 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: LostInBayport
I'm confused. I thought Medusa was supposed to turn the
OTHER person to stone.
27 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:05 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: big bad easter bunny

7” high, 5.5” wide? Awfully tiny people. The low starting bid, the incredibly low shipping price, and the lack of demonstrated knowledge about the item leads me to strongly urge staying as far away from it as possible, unless you personally really like it for a piece of decorative art.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:57 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: big bad easter bunny
I'm no expert but I do some collecting of Mayan and Mayan style stuff. The mask does not look Mayan but it does resemble a lot of Olmec work.


29 posted on 10/09/2011 7:48:48 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: big bad easter bunny; tutstar; decimon; bigheadfred

Check for a pulse. No pulse? Check for eye holes. Eye holes? Death mask. ;’)

Given the dimensions, it can’t be a death mask. It’s probably 20th century, and manufactured in the Orient. Of course, I have no credentials or expertise in Mayan art, so...

Note the detail work on authentic Precolumbian artifacts (some of these examples, for instance):

http://www.google.com/images?q=guatemalan+jade&sa=X&oi=image_result_group


30 posted on 10/09/2011 7:50:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: LostInBayport

I was thinking Andy Rooney, but the eyebrows are all wrong.


31 posted on 10/09/2011 7:50:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Someone should bring it down to Zuccotti Park. Either it would clear the place out or they’d start bringing offerings to it.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 7:53:09 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; LostInBayport
I was thinking Andy Rooney, but the eyebrows are all wrong.

But you are in the right time zone.

33 posted on 10/09/2011 7:55:41 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: Tucsonican; big bad easter bunny

And according to this museum website, there's a similar Olmec piece, also about 7" high, with similar indents as well, also made out of jadeite.

So, could indeed be a valid artifact, but still all the warning bells are going off.

34 posted on 10/09/2011 7:55:58 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BunnySlippers

lived and collected in mayan mexico near the guatemalan border for almost twenty years...provenance is everything...if you don’t know anything about its origins i would suspect this mask is likely a reproduction. The museum-quality jade masks are a much finer grade and brighter color than this stone...skilled craftsmen in oaxaca have been “discovering” these in “tombs” near monte alban for a century and strangely, they often come from diverse cultures from aztec to mayan!


35 posted on 10/09/2011 7:56:12 PM PDT by dunblak
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To: BunnySlippers

lived and collected in mayan mexico near the guatemalan border for almost twenty years...provenance is everything...if you don’t know anything about its origins i would suspect this mask is likely a reproduction. The museum-quality jade masks are a much finer grade and brighter color than this stone...skilled craftsmen in oaxaca have been “discovering” these in “tombs” near monte alban for a century and strangely, they often come from diverse cultures from aztec to mayan!


36 posted on 10/09/2011 7:56:32 PM PDT by dunblak
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To: freedumb2003

LOL!


37 posted on 10/09/2011 7:56:32 PM PDT by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: BunnySlippers

lived and collected in mayan mexico near the guatemalan border for almost twenty years...provenance is everything...if you don’t know anything about its origins i would suspect this mask is likely a reproduction. The museum-quality jade masks are a much finer grade and brighter color than this stone...skilled craftsmen in oaxaca have been “discovering” these in “tombs” near monte alban for a century and strangely, they often come from diverse cultures from aztec to mayan!


38 posted on 10/09/2011 7:56:46 PM PDT by dunblak
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To: freedumb2003

LOL!


39 posted on 10/09/2011 7:56:50 PM PDT by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: Tucsonican

Oooh, good catch!

http://www.google.com/images?q=olmec+jade&sa=X&oi=image_result_group


40 posted on 10/09/2011 7:59:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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