Posted on 10/07/2011 3:33:58 PM PDT by JOHN W K
"Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded, it is someone's fault if they failed,"___ Herman Cain
Of course Herman Cain, former ringleader of the Federal Reserve would say something like that, especially when the Federal Reserve and its un-constitutional money monopoly is in defiance of our founding fathers expressed intentions, and is used to plunder what America‘s Businesses and labor have produced.
And what did Daniel Webster have to say regarding working people: "Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."
Was Mr. Webster making something up? I think not as our founders were pretty much in agreement!
During the federal convention which framed our Constitution our founding fathers specifically voted to forbid a power to Congress to “emit bills on the credit of the united States” , and intentionally forbid any notes being made a legal tender! See: The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16
Mr. Govr. MORRIS moved to strike out "and emit bills on the credit of the U. States"-If the United States had credit such bills would be unnecessary: if they had not, unjust & useless.
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Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelations.
Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words "(and emit bills")
On the motion for striking out N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. ay. Md. no. Va. ay. [FN23] N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
[FN23] This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts.
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Our founding fathers were well aware of the historical thievery which takes place when notes of any kind are made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. And that is why they intentionally voted to forbid any notes being made a legal tender which, if allowed, would create an evil money monopoly and force businesses and individuals to accept worthless script in payment of debt, even if they were not “safe and proper”.
To bad our “conservative’ talk show hosts avoid talking about two specific key issues which our founding fathers addressed in great detail and provided specific rules in our Constitution to encourage and protect a free market system and prevent Congress‘s power of taxation being abused. The two key issues which our “conservative” talk show hosts fail to address are:
Federal Reserve Notes having been made a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE in defiance of our Constitution’s legislative intent, and our Constitution’s “fair share formulas” for both taxation and representation:
FAIR SHARE OF EACH STATE’S REPRESENTATIVES
State`s Pop.
___________ X House size (435) = State`s No.of Reps.
U.S. pop.
FAIR SHARE OF ANY GENERAL TAX LAID AMONG THE STATES
State`s Pop.
_________ X SUM NEEDED = STATE`S SHARE OF DIRECT TAX
U.S. pop.
A few days ago Glenn Beck had Herman Cain on his radio show promoting his 9-9-9 plan, which includes a “national sales tax’, in addition to a 9 percent tax on corporate profits, and a 9 percent tax upon working people’s earned wages.
Glenn Beck was all in favor of the addition of Cain’s new 9 percent national sales tax to feed the beast in Washington, and didn’t even bother to play devil’s advocate and question its constitutionality, or the rational behind adding a new tax to Congress‘ menu while keeping existing taxes on incomes alive.
This is a typical example of our so called “conservative” talk show hosts avoiding two of the most important issues addressed by our Founding Fathers.
Why is it that our “conservative” talk show hosts will not talk about the unconstitutionality of federal reserve notes being made a legal tender for all debts public and private, nor talk about the rule of apportionment and how our founder’s agreed it would apply to any general tax laid among the States? Has Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz. Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, etc., ever mentioned our Constitution‘s fair share formula for any general tax laid among the States or federal reserve notes having been made a legal tender in defiance of our founders expressed intentions?
JWK
History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.___ James Madison
I was chatting with a realtor friend yesterday about how the country doesn't realize just how booming some parts of our State is. We are in a mid-sized town of just under 100K and we have new businesses opening every day, not just big business, but lots of individuals are starting 'dream' businesses. One friend of ours just started their own little French-style bakery. There is a lot of confidence here you don't see in other parts of the country.
Cain is closer to the Ben Bernanke than any other candidate.
That federal reserve is working out great for us. /s
Mr Cain rightly understands that growth is the key to our doldrums, but I am uncertain as to how he will manage to do it if he wants to pal around with his Fed buddies and the Super Committee, and all the while play games like calling Perry insensitive, while ignoring that it was Perry that kiboshed that naggerhead rock 30 years ago.
I think most do. I believe Huntsman believes in Hope and Change. Paul, Johnson and Romney are well enough below that 50% conservative level, they may say they reject it but they wouldn’t do enough about it. I would be happy with most of the rest of the field including Jimmy McMillan (just for the LULz).
Heck, I think Freepers should unite behind Jimmy McMillan. The taxes are too damn high!
True.
I have friends in real estate here and they are doing well.
No sales tax while 16A lives.
That said, there is a pistol in the desk in the next room. You will know what to do when the time comes, and now is that time.
LOL, pretentious much?
I hate to point it to you, but it is delusional to think anything you wrote represents anything of the founding fathers. It is barely literate at best.
What a thoughtful response. Attack the messenger and not the specific message. I take it you would also charge our founding fathers as wearing a swastika, especially those like Madison who intentionally voted to forbid bank notes to be made a legal tender.
JWK
In most of Texas they are doing great. My wife owns her own business as a private vocal coach and piano teacher. It is one of those businesses that people would give up first when the economy goes south... and she has a waiting list so long, she actually had to take her website down for a while to stop the calls.
With all of Perry’s warts, if the rest of the country does half as well as Texas under him, we would be booming.
This is why, honestly, I’m not crazy about the my candidate or the highway attitudes. I like Cain (obviously) and he is my first choice but I also like Perry and would work hard for him as well.
Our Taxes are to damn high.
But they aren’t the worst. That damn drought is taxing.
There are folks here that are getting killed by the drought and they have sold the cattle off except for one or two in order to keep the AG tax break.
They cant afford to feed them but they cant afford to lose the AG tax break on the land.
Despite all that Texas is thriving.
No I attack you for being an obvious moron.
Did I ever mention you are my FReeper mentor. LOL.. Between you and Humblegunner, one day I'll come up with a smarta** comeback worthy.. :->
Perry is not the enemy. Big Gov is the enemy.
I honestly believe Perry when he says he is a states rights guy.
He has rankled feathers at the local level and the federal level, but I honestly believe him.
If Mr. Cain were sincere in advancing the interests of America’s free market system, its businesses and working class people, and not his international banking pals interests, he would be advocating an end to the Marxist income tax and a return to our Constitution’s ORIGINAL TAX PLAN which would remove the Washington Establishment’s grip from the necks of the American people, and he would do it with the 32 word plan:
The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money
JWK
Cain isn’t the enemy either. Nor is Bachmann, Pawlenty, or Newt..
Some of the useful idiots like Paul and Romney are close enough to the enemy we might as well treat them as such.. but we should all unite behind values versus oppose those fighting for our side.
Things take steps. You can’t change it overnight. That’s why both Steve Forbes and Art Laffer have praised the 999 plan- it is a logical and realistic step towards either a fair tax or flat tax plan.
Too many have coffee-shop philosopher ideas with big words but no real ability or plan to implement them. (..cough, Paul, cough...)
They cant afford to feed them but they cant afford to lose the AG tax break on the land. Despite all that Texas is thriving."
I dont see any federal tax dollars to aid us, and we are doing just fine.
That is Rick Perry's message
We don't need your money.
Barack is constantly whining that he need money, so's he can put it in a slush fund for his pals.
see: Federal Reserve Documents Reveal Massive Foreign Bank Bailouts
By Julie Borowski on Apr 04, 2011
Last week, the American people were finally informed on what the Federal Reserve has done with some of their money behind closed doors. It was revealed that one of the largest recipients of the Fed’s money was foreign banks during the 2008 economic downturn. We can’t say that we’re surprised. The Fed fought tooth and nail to keep these documents secret for a reason.
JWK
Maybe the Super committee will repeal the 16th amendment?
I kinda doubt it
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