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Wikileaks Discloses The Reason(s) Behind China's Shadow Gold Buying Spree
Zero Hedge ^ | 09/03/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 09/03/2011 2:50:22 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage

Wondering why gold at $1850 is cheap, or why gold at double that price will also be cheap, or frankly at any price? Because, as the following leaked cable explains, gold is, to China at least, nothing but the opportunity cost of destroying the dollar's reserve status. Putting that into dollar terms is, therefore, impractical at best, and illogical at worst. We have a suspicion that the following cable from the US embassy in China is about to go not viral but very much global, and prompt all those mutual fund managers who are on the golden sidelines to dip a toe in the 24 karat pool. The only thing that matters from China's perspective is that "suppressing the price of gold is very beneficial for the U.S. in maintaining the U.S. dollar's role as the international reserve currency. China's increased gold reserves will thus act as a model and lead other countries towards reserving more gold. Large gold reserves are also beneficial in promoting the internationalization of the RMB." Now, what would happen if mutual and pension funds finally comprehend they are massively underinvested in the one asset which China is without a trace of doubt massively accumulating behind the scenes is nothing short of a worldwide scramble, not so much for paper, but every last ounce of physical gold...

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1 posted on 09/03/2011 2:50:26 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage

How about that.

How about the dollar devaluing to zip, along with external debts, and out comes a new partially gold backed US buck.

That would throw a big wrench into China’s plan.


2 posted on 09/03/2011 2:54:13 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Comparative Advantage

hmmm...can Obama print gold?


3 posted on 09/03/2011 2:56:11 PM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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To: evad
hmmm...can Obama print gold?

If he can heal the Earth and lower the oceans, anything might be possible.

4 posted on 09/03/2011 2:57:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Comparative Advantage

Not surprising. It’s been pretty obvious that they’ve been doing this, although they might not want to be quoted as saying so.

But they were polite enough to let Wikileaks say it for them.


5 posted on 09/03/2011 3:03:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Comparative Advantage
It's amazing the differences perception can bring about amongst folks.

I'm buying and holding cash. US Dollars.

I believe gold we be $1200 or less by the end of the year.

6 posted on 09/03/2011 3:18:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: OpusatFR

Interesting article. Please note my tag.


7 posted on 09/03/2011 3:23:41 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Note that this is a US diplomatic cable dated 2009.

It’s not news that the Chinese have been adding to their gold reserves. In Q2 2009, official Peoples Bank of China (PBC) gold reserves increased from 600 to 1054.1 metric tons.

Since then official PBC reserves have been unchanged, though many suspect that the either the PBC or other Chinese government entities have been acquiring gold. About two years, the Chinese government also began promoting private acquisition and ownership of gold to preserve the value of individual savings. Imagine that ... a government that encourages private gold ownership.


8 posted on 09/03/2011 3:29:22 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: upchuck

Imagine if the US government could only finance its deficit by borrowing gold.


9 posted on 09/03/2011 3:31:14 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: OpusatFR

That would be an outright default unless we exchanged old notes for new notes.

The world monetary system would collapse and this would usher in the next world war.


10 posted on 09/03/2011 3:34:01 PM PDT by dila813
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To: OpusatFR
Won't happen under obama but it might after the election, if there is still a dollar worth saving.
11 posted on 09/03/2011 3:42:26 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Comparative Advantage

I have wondered just how much of the gold collected at these gold parties and mall stores goes to China.


12 posted on 09/03/2011 3:52:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Comparative Advantage

Interesting to consider. It’s also interesting to consider the source(s) and date.


13 posted on 09/03/2011 4:25:20 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Skepolitic
Imagine that ... a government that encourages private gold ownership.

Well, yeah. In this case a fascist super-state that will shoot you if you don't give them the gold when they decide they want it.

14 posted on 09/03/2011 4:30:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: Skepolitic
Note that this is a US diplomatic cable dated 2009.

I would say this is what Zero Hedge says that Wiki-leaks purports to be a US Diplomatic cable dated 2009. There are several levels of possible fabrication/bastardization of the actual communication. I'd view this with some skepticism, until there is some sense of authentication. Think of how long Wiki-leaks has supposedly been in possessions of this mountain of documents and cables. They could be playing this dump by seeding the actual messages and documents with a lot of fabrications. I will agree that it is a hell of a mess.

15 posted on 09/03/2011 5:48:44 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

ZeroHedge provides the WikiLeak file, which appears to be real. My point is that it seems to be a 2009 cable commenting on the increase of PBC gold reserves, which was public knowledge. It’s not really significant that a diplomatic cable would comment on something that is already public knowledge.


16 posted on 09/03/2011 8:09:45 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Mariner

It will be your loss to hunker down with savings in US cash dollars. They’re rapidly depreciating.

Look at the big picture: a dollar in 1914 is worth 3 cents today. Check www.shadowstats.com to learn the facts about how official inflation measurements have been changed so that they now dramatically understate true inflation (which also means that GDP is significantly overstated).

Most people in the USA unfortunately do not understand what is happening to the true value of currencies in the highly indebted western nations. Gold isn’t increasing in value; currencies are dropping. It is a race to the bottom.

It is delusional to think that what has happened to other excessive-money-printing nations “can’t happen here.” We are well down the road already, and other nations such as China do get it.


17 posted on 09/03/2011 8:37:53 PM PDT by JustTheTruth (The way of the world is the big lie, unfortunately.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

We should accumulate PORK BELLIES. See if they can EAT gold.

Newbie “capitalists” do not understand that gold is not capital (unless you are a gold miner) just a store of idle cash value.

Not the first to try to corner a market. Just creating another bubble: when they have it all, price collapses as everyone else moves to something else still on a free market!


18 posted on 09/03/2011 8:43:38 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: JustTheTruth
Look at the big picture: a dollar in 1914 is worth 3 cents today.

But three 1914 cents could be worth almost $60,000 today ;-)

1914-D Cent MS-65R
19 posted on 09/03/2011 8:51:43 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: EternalVigilance

China, or the United Police States of America?


20 posted on 09/04/2011 7:06:35 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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