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Freedom Politics ^ | 6/12/11 | Thomas J. Lucente Jr.

Posted on 06/14/2011 12:44:32 PM PDT by libertycause13

Who owns your body?

Judging from our nation’s body of law, the ruling class wrongly believes the government does.

However, you own your body and, with that ownership, you have a God-given natural right to do what you will with it, even if that means ending your life.

That is the lesson we should take from the life of Dr. Jacob “Jack” Kevorkian, who died June 3 at the age of 83. As he once said, “Dying is not a crime.”

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1 posted on 06/14/2011 12:44:34 PM PDT by libertycause13
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To: libertycause13

Rubbish.


2 posted on 06/14/2011 12:46:04 PM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: libertycause13

Our lives are not our own to take.


3 posted on 06/14/2011 12:46:09 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: libertycause13

Dying is not a crime.

But asking someone to kill you is.


4 posted on 06/14/2011 12:46:15 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: libertycause13

Hey, Thomas J. Lucente Jr, does a suicide terrorist have a “right to die”? =.=


5 posted on 06/14/2011 12:46:23 PM PDT by cranked
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To: libertycause13

You have the right to die.

You don’t have the right to conspire to commit murder.


6 posted on 06/14/2011 12:48:12 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: libertycause13
You have the right to die. You just do not have the right to ask someone else to kill.

Clear?

7 posted on 06/14/2011 12:50:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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To: libertycause13
Unless you gave yourself life, you are not morally justified in taking it.
8 posted on 06/14/2011 12:50:55 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Artemis Webb

a mans life is his own. If he chooses to take it let him. If god judges it a crime then let said man make his own defense and accept his punishment. You might advise him against it but never interfere with the right for him to live and die as he chooses.


9 posted on 06/14/2011 12:52:27 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: libertycause13

If someone is determined to kill themselves then there are few things that will stopped them.

However, this in not what this argument is all about.

They want government sponsored (paid for) places where people can go to have others kill them.

Once you start down this path, it is a short trip from voluntary to coercion to mandatory.

All you need to do is look how abortion is portrayed today.

I can see it now, a full service death palace, one side doing abortion the other killing the lame, old and poor. It will become your duty to die to make room for “the children”.

This is evil, pure and simple


10 posted on 06/14/2011 12:53:11 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: Artemis Webb
"Our lives are not our own to take"

Almost. Your life is not mine to take. My life is not yours on which to impose your faith.

PS: There is no such thing as "our" lives.


11 posted on 06/14/2011 12:53:59 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Artemis Webb
Our lives are not our own to take.

Nor do we have an ownership right vested in ourselves. If that were so, we could buy and sell one another as chattel property. I prefer to think of myself as the ward and warder of myself.

12 posted on 06/14/2011 12:58:30 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: libertycause13

“Dying is not a crime.” Murder is.


13 posted on 06/14/2011 1:01:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: wideawake

Who is morally justified to take it? Is an enemy soldier justified? Are you justified in taking an enemy soldiers life? If so, why is it wrong to take your own life?

Sounds to me, that taking a life is based on relativism...sometimes it’s ok, sometimes it’s not, just depends on the circumstance.


14 posted on 06/14/2011 1:02:18 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Good post. Correct analysis.


15 posted on 06/14/2011 1:02:31 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: libertycause13
Today, only three states allow the terminally ill to humanely end their lives, Oregon, Washington and Montana.

Nonsense. People, including the terminally ill, kill themselves in the other 54 states all the time.

Anybody who can use Google can find detailed directions on how to accomplish this for a few bucks at Home Depot.

16 posted on 06/14/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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17 posted on 06/14/2011 1:05:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: libertycause13; Persevero; cranked; AppyPappy
Persvero, cranked and appyPappy are right: if you're gonna go kill yourself, then Hail Almighty Autonomy, just do it:b but don't drag in the State or its legal machinery to "authoprize" your autonomy.

On a related note, there's a very legitimate case to be made for refusing treatment which is truly burdensome and futile. Gotta agree with no ventilator, no electroshock, no aggressive CPR when it would be a terrifying, rib-breaking experience for a fragile terminal patient who cannot benefit. However, that's not what Kevorkian and his ghoul-lawyer-allies were and are all about. They're about lethal drug overdoses prescribed by death-docs who aren't even qualified to diagnose depression.

And the only "protection" offered by laws like, for instance, the one in Oregon, is for the prescribing doctor, not the patient. The law protects the doctor from lawsuit, even if there's evidence of coercion on the part of a death-promoting heir (giving grim new significance to the saying "Where there's a will, there's a way.")

The drug-pushing doctor cannot be sued if he claims he acted in "good faith," a claim it is practically impossible to disprove in court, unless he actually took a bribe in front of a witness with a videocam.

Anyone who wants to commit suicide on their own can do so, and 30 minutes' worth of mousing around on the Internet can tell you how.

But don't insist on "authorization" or "participation" from Church or State or Medico or Politico. Surely in the name of Blessed Autonomy, a would-be suicider can take care of business without insisting on corrupting the political, legal, and medical professions.

A self-respecting suicider (I am not recommending this) should be responsible for himself. This "legalized" "physician-assisted" crap just puts more death-dealing power in the hands of the State.

18 posted on 06/14/2011 1:06:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God has set a limit on man's intelligence, but none on his stupidity.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Good description.


19 posted on 06/14/2011 1:07:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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Hey blogpimp, you might not know this but Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum.
20 posted on 06/14/2011 1:07:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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