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19 Outrageous Things Wisconsin Protesters Stand For
ConservativeAmerican.org ^ | 3/11/11 | Peter Andrew

Posted on 03/11/2011 6:17:12 PM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative

When you see the protesters in Wisconsin, you realize thousands of them are college kids. Some are from out of state. And you wonder how many are left that are actually from Wisconsin. Regardless, you'll be amazed to see what they stand for.

See all 19 here.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; peterandrew; protest; scottwalker; union; unions; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 03/11/2011 6:17:14 PM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative
So what's the gripe?

All we need to do is our part and plant more cash tree's to pay for it.

Geez.

2 posted on 03/11/2011 6:23:29 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Jim Robinson and the donating FReepers who support this site were gracious enough to give you a free soapbox.

Wouldn’t it be just good manners to post your article in full, as a respectful way of appreciating the opportunity you’ve been given?


3 posted on 03/11/2011 6:38:50 PM PST by shibumi (I am The Nexus One - I want more life, Baby I aint done!)
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To: EGPWS

But without free, taxpayer funded Viagra for impotent teachers, how will our children learn? Conservatives are MEAN! And they want only 60% of Milwaukeee kids to read at proficiency levels. If ONLY the mean conservative teabaggers would pony up for teacher’s “free” Viagra, the kids would read at at least the 8th grade level when they drop out.


4 posted on 03/11/2011 7:49:46 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: EGPWS

This is what University of Wisconsin students are fighting for! Here are some examples from Wisconsin collective bargaining agreements. How many of these dingbat college kids understand this is why they are yelling and screaming?!

* Employer must provide bulletin boards to post information about union social and recreational activities. The size and location of the board is subject to collective bargaining.
* When a local union meets the following conditions are subject to bargaining: lighting, vision care and examinations, noise, chairs, desks, footrests, adjustable terminals and keyboards, work environment design (wall cover, carpet, windows), and room temperature!
* Starting of vehicles during cold weather is subject to collective bargaining. (????)
* Paid time off to donate blood. Taxpayers are paying them to donate blood!
* A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work – Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire and receive a year’s worth of salary for working only 30 days over a three year period. This is paid in addition to their already guaranteed pension and health care payouts. At the average annual salary for a Green Bay teacher of $51,355, this amounts to a daily rate of pay of $1,711.83, or an hourly rate of $213.98. Since most retiring teachers receive higher than average salary, these amounts are, in practice, much higher. How many of those protesting college kids realize they are out their fighting the good fight for people making $213 an hour!!! Governor Walker’s office released details of these items this week. This one came from WLUK-TV, 3/3/11
* Teachers Receiving Two Pensions – Due to a 1982 provision of their collective bargaining agreement, Milwaukee Public School teachers actually receive TWO pensions upon retirement instead of one!!! The contribution to the second pension is equal to 4.2% of a teacher’s salary, with the school district making 100% of the contribution, just like they do for the first pension. This extra benefit costs taxpayers more than $16 million per year.
. That’s from a February 17, 2010 Press Release, Process of developing FY11 budget begins Milwaukee Public Schools. Way to go college kids! You’re protesting to make sure you pay hundreds more in taxes to give teachers TWO FREAKING PENSIONS! You may want to rethink helping these union thugs.
* Almost $10,000 Per Year for Doing Nothing!!! – While the Green Bay Emeritus Program actually requires teachers to at least show up for work, the Madison Emeritus Program doesn’t even require that!! In addition to their pension payouts, retired Madison public school teachers receive annual payments of at least $9,884.18 per year for enrolling in the Emeritus Program, which requires ZERO days of work. When this program began, 20 days of work per year were required. Through collective bargaining, the union successfully negotiated this down to zero days. Walker’s Source? The Madison Teachers Inc. Website.
* No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed – A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge. Principal Steve Miller says, “He said, you know, this gives me a reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the neighborhood.” But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn’t that simple. Representatives didn’t want to go on camera but say if a crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the city. Source: WAOW-TV, 1/27/10
* $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager – Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements, these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week, whether they are paged or not. For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation. Source: 2008-09 Agreement between the State of Wisconsin and AFSCME Council 24
* Arbitrator Reinstates Porn-Watching Teacher!! – A Cedarburg school teacher was reinstated by an arbitrator after being fired for viewing pornography on a school computer. The school district ultimately succeeded in terminating the teacher only after taking the case to the Wisconsin Supreme Court at great cost to the taxpayers. Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 8/23/08
* ‘Outstanding First Year Teacher’ Laid Off – Here’s one the college students can feel good about protesting for (not!). Milwaukee Public Schools teacher Megan Sampson was laid off less than one week after being named Outstanding First Year Teacher by the Wisconsin Council of English Teachers. She lost her job because the collective bargaining agreement requires layoffs to be made based on seniority rather than merit. Informed that her union had rejected a lower-cost health care plan, that still would have required zero contribution from teachers, Sampson said, “Given the opportunity, of course I would switch to a different plan to save my job, or the jobs of 10 other teachers. Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/10
* Union Opposes Cost-Saving Lawn Mowing Program – As a cost cutting measure, Racine County began using county inmates to cut the grass in medians and right-of-ways at no cost to the taxpayers. A county employee union filed a grievance indicating it was the right of government workers to cut the grass, even though it would cost the taxpayers dramatically more. Source: Racine Journal Times, 5/12/10
* The $150,000 Bus Driver – Oh, and this is worth driving in from out of state to picket for! Better call Jesse Jackson to come in for this one and call off school to holler and shout for this poor public union employee! Give me a freaking break!!! In 2009, the City of Madison’s highest paid employee was a bus driver who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009. “That’s the (drivers’) contract,” said Transit and Parking Commission Chairman Gary Poulson. Source: Wisconsin State Journal, 2/7/10
* $150,000 Correctional Officers!! – Correctional Officer collective bargaining agreements allow officers a practice known as “sick leave stacking.” Officers can call in sick for a shift, receiving 8 hours of sick pay, and then are allowed to work the very next shift, earning time-and-a-half for overtime. This results in the officer receiving 2.5 times his or her rate of pay, while still only working 8 hours. In part because of these practices, 13 correctional officers made more than $100,000 in 2009, despite earning base wages of less than $60,000 per year. The officers received an average of $66,000 in overtime pay for an average annual salary of more than $123,000 with the highest paid receiving $151,181. Source: Department of Corrections
* Taxpayers Fund Paid-Time off for Union Activities!!! – In Milwaukee County alone, because the union collectively bargained for paid time off, fourteen employees receive salary and benefits for doing union business. Of the fourteen, three are on full-time release for union business. Milwaukee County spent over $170,000 in salary alone for these employees to only participate in union activities such as collective bargaining. Surrender of Management Rights
* Because of collecting bargaining, unions have included provisions in employee contracts that have a direct fiscal impact such as not allowing management to schedule workers based on operational needs and requiring notice and approval by the union prior to scheduling changes. As then Milwaukee County Executive, Gov. Walker attempted to reduce work hours based on budget pressures and workload requirements by instituting a 35 hour work week to avoid layoffs, which the union opposed. Additionally, government cannot explore privatization of functions that could save taxpayers money.
* INSURANCE SCAM TO FUND UNION ACTIVITIES!!! The WEA “Trust!!!” – Currently many school districts participate in WEA trust because WEAC collectively bargains to get as many school districts across the state to participate in this union run health insurance plan as possible. Union leadership benefits from members participating in this plan. If school districts enrolled in the state employee health plan, it would save school districts up to $68 million per year. Beyond that if school districts had the flexibility to look for health insurance coverage outside of WEA trust or the state plan, additional savings would likely be realized. Boy, those college kids must be proud to have the honor of picketing for such virtuous people!
* Viagra for Teachers – The Milwaukee Teachers Education Association (MTEA) tried to use a policy established by collective bargaining to obtain health insurance coverage that specifically paid for Viagra. Cost to taxpayers is $786,000 a year. Only in the last week, did the Milwaukee TEA drop this lawsuit due to public pressure.
* Unrealistic Overtime Provisions – On a state level, the Department of Corrections allows correctional workers who call in sick to collect overtime if they work a shift on the exact same day. The specific provision that allows this to happen was collectively bargained for in their contract. Cost to taxpayers $4.8 million. Oh, but those brilliant young minds enrolled in the University of Wisconsin at Madison are all too happy to protest for this! They look forward to working extra hours to pay taxes to cover things like this.


5 posted on 03/11/2011 8:05:01 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: blueyon

The U.S Constitution...I’ve read it...and still cry.


6 posted on 03/12/2011 12:58:50 AM PST by FreeDeerHawk
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To: EGPWS

Hey, where can I get one of those trees?!


7 posted on 03/12/2011 8:53:27 PM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative
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To: shibumi

We’re grateful to Freeper and people (like me) who support the site with donations. Keep in mind Freeper also gains from the fact people like us post info here. We’re glad you love freeper like we do and we invite you to stop by our site as well. Also, the post was a bit long for freeper. Appreciate your comments though. - Peter


8 posted on 03/12/2011 8:55:52 PM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative
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To: boop

These are excellent points and perhaps I will reconsider (??) my position! Thanks for the smile!


9 posted on 03/12/2011 8:56:53 PM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

The only thing worse than a blogpimp is a blogpimp that doesn’t even know where he’s posting. I won’t be going to Conserican, whatever the heck it is.


10 posted on 03/12/2011 9:35:26 PM PST by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative; shibumi

Who the hell is “Freeper”, singular?

[English is not the first language, I’m guessing]


11 posted on 03/12/2011 10:51:30 PM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Salamander; Peter Andrew Conservative
Who the hell is “Freeper”, singular?

That would be me.

And all of those other 300,000 screen names I use.

(Heck, I can't even remember which one I'm logged in under right now.)

12 posted on 03/13/2011 1:03:18 AM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative
Also, the post was a bit long for freeper.

Yes, no doubt your massive and popular blog has sufficient
capacity for this brilliant post. Unlike this pathetic
little site called "freeper". We are awed by your presence.

13 posted on 03/13/2011 3:45:03 AM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

It’s an amazing coincidence that the exact text of your
“19 outrageous things” can be found in many places online.

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Collective Bargaining Has a Fiscal Impact Part 4
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Mar 8, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work. Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can ...
www.waukeshagop.org/images/Collective_Bargaining.pdf
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What You Get With Collective Bargaining - WSAU News/Talk 550AM 99.9FM
Mar 8, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire ...
www.wsau.com/blogs/post/.../what-you-get-collective-bargaining/ - Cached
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Union Abuses in Wisconsin - Publius Forum
Mar 10, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work. Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire ...
www.chicagonow.com/blogs/.../union-abuses-in-wisconsin.html - Cached
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Collective Bargaining is a Fiscal Issue Part 3 | Scott Walker for ...
Mar 7, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work. Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teachers can ...
www.scottwalker.org/news/.../collective-bargaining-fiscal-issue-part-3 - Cached
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Strange But True Provisions of Collective Bargaining
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Mar 8, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work. Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire ...
www.wisgov.state.wi.us/journal_media_detail.asp?locid=177... - Cached
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WisPolitics.com: Gov. Walker: Collective bargaining has a fiscal ...
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wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=229361 - Cached
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The Bader Blog - WTAQ News Talk 97.5FM and 1360AM
Mar 11, 2011 ... A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teaches can retire ...
www.wtaq.com/blogs/bader-blog/ - Cached

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Do you suppose all those sources copied the original
material written on your fine blog? That’s an outrage!

It must be the case though.

No fine conservative such as yourself would stoop so
low as to commit plagiarism and then post the result
here and claim to be the author of it.

Only a scumsucking lying blogpimp would do something like that.


14 posted on 03/13/2011 3:55:42 AM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Allegra

Oh....yeah.

That’s right.

Sorry.

I forgot.

[that happens when you don’t really exist...you forget a lot of stuff]....:)


15 posted on 03/13/2011 6:24:50 AM PDT by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative; shibumi; humblegunner; TheOldLady
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16 posted on 03/13/2011 7:48:20 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: humblegunner; Allegra; Salamander; shibumi; 50mm

He is from planet marklar. His marklar isn’t marklar regarding our marklar.


17 posted on 03/13/2011 8:52:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido; humblegunner; Allegra; Salamander; 50mm
Station.

18 posted on 03/13/2011 9:19:41 AM PDT by shibumi (I am The Nexus One - I want more life, Baby I aint done!)
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To: Larry Lucido

I just marklarred my marklar. I marklar it when that marklars.


19 posted on 03/13/2011 9:22:31 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: blueyon

* $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
* Paid time off to donate blood

I get 2 hours each week day and 3 hours on weekends. 16 hours per week for being on-call.

My company will bring the Red Cross to the building and if the work demands allow I can donate blood. And they will give us something like a T-shirt or sometimes one of the single servings of Häagen-Dazs ice cream.

There is plenty of stuff to complain about but some of these are common with private companies. It is not just wearing a pager it also getting a 2am and going somewhere to respond.


20 posted on 03/13/2011 9:42:44 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (it said the speeling was OK)
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