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The forgotten Orthodox Christians of Bosnia and Kosovo
The Modern Tokyo Times ^ | December 1, 2010 | Lee Jay Walker

Posted on 12/01/2010 6:25:49 AM PST by Ravnagora

Bosnian Islamic fighters during their Jihad which was blessed by President Bill Clinton

I come from a member state of the European Union which is meant to uphold the rights of all religions, political ideologies, acknowledge national and cultural rights, and is meant to spread “European brotherhood.” However, it appears that this does not apply to the Orthodox Christians of Bosnia and Kosovo respectively because not only have they been abandoned but outside Islamic powers are stepping up their Islamization agenda in both Bosnia and Kosovo.

In Kosovo the de-Christianization of the Orthodox Christian community continues and hundreds of Orthodox Christian churches have been destroyed but little was done to protect this community. It should be remembered that the Christian Serbs helped to preserve the shared European identity in history from the marauding Islamic Turks who enslaved countless numbers of Christians throughout the Balkans during the Ottoman Empire.

Yet in modern times it is clear that Iran, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and other non-European nations, are intent on creating an Islamized Balkans and this applies to Albania, Bosnia, the Sandzak in Serbia, northeastern Bulgaria and the Rhodope Mountains region, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Montenegro. At the same time increasing Islamic immigration in Greece is creating tensions and Turkey is intent on preserving its armed forces in northern Cyprus.

The above mentioned places may sometimes have a continuous border line or they may be divided by geography and thinking because you have many branches within Islam. However, for pan-Islamists in Bosnia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other nations, it is a dream and clearly the European Union alongside America supported the “green flag of Islam” during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

In my article called Islam in Bosnia is the new stepping stone I stated that Alija Izetbegovic stated that “… Muslim nations will never accept anything that is explicitly against Islam, because Islam here is not merely a faith and the law, Islam has become love and compassion. He who rises against Islam will reap nothing but hate and resistance. …”

Izetbegovic was a pan-Islamist and he allowed thousands of Islamic terrorists from all over the world to join his Islamic jihadist campaign by allowing them to slaughter innocent Orthodox Christians in Bosnia. At the same time he played the “Muslim victim card” in front of the Western media. However, Izetbegovic shared the same global jihadist ideals and pan-Islamic thought patterns because he stated “… In one of the thesis for an Islamic order today we have stated that it is a natural function of the Islamic order to gather all Muslims and Muslim communities throughout the world into one. Under present conditions, this desire means a struggle for creating a great Islamic federation from Morocco to Indonesia, from the tropical Africa to the Central Asia. …”

Vojin Joksimovich who is the author of “The Revenge of the Prophet” highlights the international nature of Islam in Bosnia because he states that “The jihadists, from their bases and support facilities in Iran, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere, did not come to Bosnia only to fight against the ‘Serbian aggressor,’ but for the first European religious state at large, for the establishment of the only faith among the European Muslims.” (Page 145)

This comment highlights the reality of Izetbegovic and the pan-Islamic card. Vojin Joksimovich continues by stating that the “Creation of Islamic states, so-called Jamahirya states, was the ultimate objective of all these movements. With the Koran in their hands the jihadists did not distinguish between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, only between believers and unbelievers.” (Page 145)

However, Islamic jihadists and pan-Islamists from Bosnia and other parts of the world had only a short period to enact their Islamic jihad via the sword and this applies to when war broke out in Bosnia and Kosovo respectively. Yet the military battlefield and “Muslim victim card” image would lay the foundation for future political and religious ambitions in the Balkans and of course Bosnia would be the stepping stone that would help the ambitions of people like Izetbegovic.

In an article written by Bojan Pancevski in The Sunday Times newspapers which is published in the United Kingdom he comments (Saudis fund Balkan Muslims spreading hate of the west – March 28, 2010) that “SAUDI ARABIA is pouring hundreds of millions of pounds into Islamist groups in the Balkans, some of which spread hatred of the West and recruit fighters for jihad in Afghanistan”.

The article continues by stating that “According to officials in Macedonia, Islamic fundamentalism threatens to destabilize the Balkans. Strict Wahhabi and Salafi factions funded by Saudi organisations are clashing with traditionally moderate local Muslim communities.”

Sources also reveal that “Classified documents seen by The Sunday Times reveal that Macedonian officials are also investigating a number of Islamic charities, some in Saudi Arabia, which are active throughout the Balkans and are suspected of spreading extremism and laundering money for terrorist organisations.”

The article also highlights the sinister reality of Saudi Arabia by stating that “Hundreds of millions have been poured into Macedonia alone in the past decade and most of it comes from Saudi Arabia,” said a government source. “The Saudis’ main export seems to be ideology, not oil.”

“The West has put considerable political and financial efforts into helping build democracy in Bosnia following its civil war in the 1990s. Saudi organizations have also asserted considerable influence, giving more than £450m to build more than 150 mosques and Islamic centres.”

Therefore, while Muslim nations and radical Islamic charities are spreading radical Islam in the Balkans you have the reality of Serbian Orthodox Christians in Kosovo being abandoned and clearly the Bosnian Serbian entity is not desired by America, the European Union or important Islamic nations.

In my article called Radical Islamic Charities and Jihad in the Balkans I highlight Vojin Joksimovich again because he states that“Bosnia established a successful model for embattled countries around the world: organizing, arming, and funding mujahideen units, skimming money from humanitarian charities, linking up with crime bosses including narco-terrorists, etc. Islamism both produces and profits from mayhem. Albeit to a much lesser magnitude, the Bosnian model was replicated later on in Kosovo, Southern Serbia and Macedonia. Al Qaeda and the Taliban found a route for the heroin trafficking from Afghanistan into Europe via the Balkans.” Page 150

I also commented in the same article that “….just like the rise of the Taliban and radical Islam in modern day southern Thailand and Pakistan, it is the role of the Islamic madrasas which must be eliminated and not merely contained. The role of Islamic charities must also be tackled because many are a gateway to spreading radical Islam and if this “gateway” is not stopped and challenged, then alongside religious Islamic educational institutions which are sponsored by Saudi nationals and others; then the spread of radical Islam will not be defeated.

It is clear that America and the European Union desires a unified Bosnia and Islamic elites within the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina are hoping that the Republic Srpska will be swallowed up.

Currently you have a Christian majority within all of Bosnia but the majority is slender and given the higher Muslim birthrate and the reality of what happened to the majority Christian population of Kosovo in history then the future looks bleak. In truth, if you look at history then it is nigh impossible to find a stable Muslim democratic nation where democracy flourished and where religious minorities also grew and had full equality within the legal system.

De-Christianization in Kosovo is a modern day reality when it applies to the Serbian Orthodox Christian community and this applies to the decreasing Serbian population, destruction of Christian churches, the eradication of Serbian architecture, and constant persecution and marginalization by the majority Muslim Albanian population.

The late Patriarch Pavle who sadly passed away in November, 2009, stated ( that “This humble publication is our cry and appeal to the Christian and civilized world. It is distressing to learn that in the year of the greatest Christian Jubilee, at the end of two millenniums of Christianity, Christian churches are still being destroyed, not in a war but in the time of peace guaranteed by the international community. We hope that these photos of the destroyed and desecrated Orthodox shrines will awaken the conscience of those who are able to stop the crimes and believe that they who already stood up against one evil will not remain just passive witnesses of another evil happening now in their presence.”

However, the same mass media which distorted the conflict is now the same mass media which is mainly silent about current events in Kosovo. Also, the Bosnian Serbian leadership in Republic Srpska is marginalized by the international community because Western nations prefer the Muslim elites in Sarajevo.

Maybe one day the Serbian Orthodox Christian community in Bosnia will face the same fate which befell their co-religionists in Kosovo. After all, Islamic nations and organizations are funding many Islamic institutions throughout the region and added to the higher Muslim birthrate and pro-American policies towards the Muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo then this could become a future reality.

What is clear is that time is not on the side of the Republic Srpska because either it will join with Serbia or become an independent state whereby Serbians will be guaranteed their freedom. Or it will be swallowed up by the American backed unitary Bosnian state under the Muslim elites of Bosnia and with the full backing of many Islamic nations.

If the latter happens and with the reality of the higher Muslim birthrate then in time the Serbian population will be further marginalized. Or at worse the Bosnian Serbs will face their “Kosovo Golgotha” and given the events of past history and the ongoing reality of de-Christianization of the Serbian Orthodox Christian community in Kosovo then this scenario is a clear possibility.

Lee Jay Walker

(This article is dedicated to Liz who cares deeply about the plight of Christian Serbs in Kosovo and throughout the former Yugoslavia. LJW)


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; christianity; clintonlegacy; islam; kosovo; serbia; serbs; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime
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1 posted on 12/01/2010 6:25:54 AM PST by Ravnagora
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 12/01/2010 6:28:35 AM PST by Ravnagora
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3 posted on 12/01/2010 6:30:58 AM PST by x_plus_one (Who sews the wind reaps the storm...)
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To: Ravnagora

I’d pay a thousand dollars right now to see Serbian tanks roll back into Kosovo.

4 posted on 12/01/2010 6:34:05 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Best post of the day goes to Wendy.

Only 1,000 dollars?

I think that would be worth at least $2500.

That would a great Christmas present for the Kosovar Serbs.

5 posted on 12/01/2010 6:35:50 AM PST by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

Bill Clinton’s rancid legacy lives on, as Christianity is extinguished in the Balkans. After the treachery he instigated against the Christians of Kosovo, he should be a pariah instead of an idol of the Democrats.

6 posted on 12/01/2010 6:42:26 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Ravnagora

When all that was going on, under Clinton, I was at a loss to understand why we were so determined to side with Izlam against the Orthodox Christians. Now I get it. Amazing how 9/11 clarified the mind and showed the true colors of so many people in our country. I sometimes think the only way the Balkans are ever going to be settled is if the rest of the world backs off and lets them all duke it out. Trouble with that is that the Muzlims have now seized the upper hand, thanks to our perfidious and ignorant meddling. Gates of Vienna, indeed.

7 posted on 12/01/2010 7:03:28 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
When all that was going on, under Clinton, I was at a loss to understand why we were so determined to side with Izlam against the Orthodox Christians.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Christian Serbs who sided with the allies against the Nazis in WWII. Anyone care to guess which side most of islam was on.

8 posted on 12/01/2010 7:08:59 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Ravnagora

This is one of the main reasons I am absolutely against the further existence of NATO.

NATO was formed to fight the Cold War. The Cold War ended in 1989-90.

Bureaucratic creep, a search for a new mission, the love the failed EU project and political correctness that pushed NATO and the USA into the Balkans.

NATO now guarantees the “security” of 35+ countries. There will be many more such blunders in the future if the USA remains in NATO.

9 posted on 12/01/2010 7:14:26 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Ravnagora

I could come up with the other 1500 if it really came to it.

10 posted on 12/01/2010 7:16:34 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: Ravnagora
IMO if the U.S. stood with the Serbs 09-11-01 may have never happened. The worldwide Jihad stopped dead in the Balkans.
11 posted on 12/01/2010 7:42:34 AM PST by gitmogrunt (WTF?................... Connect the dots)
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12 posted on 12/01/2010 7:45:02 AM PST by gitmogrunt (WTF?................... Connect the dots)
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To: PGR88

NATO has outlived its purpose and has resorted to bizarre tactics aiding our enemies.

Time to put an end to it.

13 posted on 12/01/2010 7:48:33 AM PST by eleni121 ( Father Daniil Sysoyev lives!)
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To: YankeeReb

Yes. One of the things they did was delay Hitler’s invasion of Russia until well into the fall, forcing him to fight in winter, which lead to his eventual defeat there.

14 posted on 12/01/2010 7:51:02 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
When all that was going on, under Clinton

McCain, Kristol, Safire, and Podhoretz were also big boosters. This was a "good war" back when Osama bin Laden was still on our side:

15 posted on 12/01/2010 7:57:50 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Ravnagora

Great article exposing the saudis most recent donation to the stability of the Western world.

Only a couple hundred million Pounds? Surely, they’re committing more to the effort in jihadi recruits...

The saudis recently purged 1000’s of foreign Imans from SA in an effort to employ the own citizens in those positions. One thing that wasn’t consider was where are those now unemployed “experts” going to go for employment?

They only know jihad.

16 posted on 12/01/2010 8:00:52 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Ravnagora; wendy1946; Bokababe; eleni121

I pray for the Serbian Orthodox Christians in Kosovo and Bosnia—as well as in what is left of Serbia and of Montenegro—every day.

I would dearly love to see the replacement of the current quisling government of Serbia by a real, patriotic Serbian government. That is prerequisite to the reintegration of Montenegro and of Republika Srpska into the Serbian homeland, and to the reconquest of Kosovo, ALL of which I would love to see!!!!

We Americans now also have a quisling Federal Administration, which like the Serbian government is a creature of Soros and Al-Waleed. We REALLY need to get rid of it, too!!!! And Americans should sympathize with and actively support Serbia, because we now have the same problem.

Then there are the Serbian patriotic, Orthodox youth movements, like Dveri Srpska and Our 1389. Ironically, the current quisling Serbian politicians came to power as part of a youth movement, backed by Soros. (The obama 2008 election was run as a Soros-backed youth movement, too.) This is all clearly NOT just about youth!!!! I would love to see the victory of the Serbian Orthodox renewal movements, and the end of the malignant, metastasizing Soros “color revolution” movement, in which Soros activists from Serbia even spread their cancer to other countries.

Finally, we need to get the filthy, blood-soaked hands of the quisling Serbian government, the EU, NATO, Soros, and Hillary clinton OFF of the Serbian Orthodox Church!!!! STOP all outside meddling in Church affairs, which are designed to weaken the Church and the Serbian nation, as well as world Orthodoxy!!!!

Holy Father Justin of Celije, pray for us all!!!!

17 posted on 12/01/2010 8:01:08 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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18 posted on 12/01/2010 8:12:07 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
“Built on the Rock the Church doth Stand”
by Nicolai F.S. Grundtvig, 1783-1872
Translated by Carl Doving, 1867-1937

1. Built on the Rock the Church doth stand,
Even when steeples are falling;
Crumbled have spires in every land,
Bells still are chiming and calling,

Calling the young and old to rest,
But above all the soul distrest,
Longing for rest everlasting.

2. Surely in temples made with hands,
God, the Most High, is not dwelling;
High above earth His temple stands,
All earthly temples excelling.
Yet He whom heavens cannot contain
Chose to abide on earth with men,
Built in our bodies His temple.

3. We are God's house of living stones,
Builded for His habitation;
He through baptismal grace us owns
Heirs of His wondrous salvation.
Were we but two His name to tell,
Yet He would deign with us to dwell,
With all His grace and His favor.

4. Now we may gather with our King
E'en in the lowliest dwelling;
Praises to Him we there may bring,
His wondrous mercy forthtelling.
Jesus His grace to us accords;
Spirit and life are all His words;
His truth doth hallow the temple.

5. Still we our earthly temples rear
That we may herald His praises;
They are the homes where He draws near
And little children embraces.
Beautiful things in them are said;
God there with us His covenant made,
Making us heirs of His kingdom.

6. Here stands the font before our eyes
Telling how God did receive us;
The altar recalls Christ's sacrifice
And what His table doth give us;
Here sounds the Word that doth proclaim
Christ yesterday, today, the same,
Yea, and for aye our Redeemer.

7. Grant then, O God, where’er men roam,
That, when the church-bells are ringing,
Many in saving faith may come
Where Christ His message is bringing:
“I know Mine own, Mine own know Me;
Ye, not the world, My face shall see.
My peace I leave with you.” Amen.

Hymn #467
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Eph. 2: 19-22
Author: Nicolai F.S. Grundtvig, 1837
Translated by: Carl Doving, 1909, alt.
Titled: “Kirken den er et gammelt Hus
Composer: Ludvig M. Lindeman, 1871
Tune: “Kirken den er et”

19 posted on 12/01/2010 6:58:26 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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