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1 posted on 04/30/2009 2:58:33 PM PDT by Bill Dupray
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Well, the man is making sense on this point. An enormous % of US medical expenditure is on patients who are dead within 3 months.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 3:01:24 PM PDT by babble-on
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....hey BAMBI, check with the Schiavo family, like you did with the 9/11 families......


3 posted on 04/30/2009 3:02:54 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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At this point, there is nothing we can do about it.

Just please pass me the Morphine and let me go painlessly. Morphine is pretty cheap and basically the decision is out of my hands.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 3:03:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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Okay, he’s just explained why we should not go to this model. That you Obama for refuting your own healthcare plan.

He is such a liar. It is not “may”, it is “will”. What a pathological commie lib.


5 posted on 04/30/2009 3:03:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Older Americans who worked all their lives and paid taxes need to sacrifice to insure illegal aliens get the best free health care and ENDLESS other govt benefits.

I mean really stop complaining or inconveniencing illegal aliens.

6 posted on 04/30/2009 3:04:22 PM PDT by Frantzie ("Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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10 posted on 04/30/2009 3:07:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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12 posted on 04/30/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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Since Obama, nothing about life has any meaning. Nobody, babies, family, friends, parents, grandparents mean anything. A person can wake up in the morning to the promise of a new day.....until you remember Obama....it goes downhill from there.

Life is all about the state, making sure we work to pay for those that keep the evil democrats in power.

I am ashamed of all of us for allowing this evil to overpower the the decency of humans.

Quite frankly, death is preferable to serving evil.


15 posted on 04/30/2009 3:12:18 PM PDT by dforest
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...when you consider the amount of government waste,illegals, and out and out FRAUD THE government refuses to address, our medicaid coverage would be a quarter of what we pay now...THEY the government allow all sorts of illegals to obtain benefits meant for AMERICANS, AND THEN complain about the cost....and HOW THEY ARE GOING TO FIX IT sorry for the shouting, but if I typed what I was saying here, I'd get banned
16 posted on 04/30/2009 3:12:33 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement, just because she’s my grandmother.

I'd lay odds you and I will NOT have the option to go outside the system.

The government system will have to force everyone to play by their rules without a parallel out of pocket system. Otherwise, they will not be able to force Physicians to work by their rules and pay scales.

18 posted on 04/30/2009 3:14:26 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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“is a very difficult question”

Which on my behalf, is above his pay grade unless he gets a medical license and becomes my doctor or becomes my guardian (which I believe is his goal for all of us, to control our income and our lives because he is so much better than “we”)

Let’s just guess what he would have chosen for poor Toot if she had not had the marbles to make her own decision....the fact that she chose the chance to live without hip pain for her remaining days- should in itself tell him the decision IS NOT “HIS” (or THE GOVTS) to make.


19 posted on 04/30/2009 3:14:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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Barack said that we would all receive the same care as senators and representatives. Since Ted Kennedy is terminally ill and old, does this mean that he is footing the entire bill for his health care? How about Ruth Bader?


22 posted on 04/30/2009 3:23:39 PM PDT by bone52
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24 posted on 04/30/2009 3:28:05 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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There might be federal guide lines about the age appropriate treatment course.

For example....a person over the age of 70 who has old age related degenerative knees will be denied life improving knee replacements, etc.

Or worse yet, people could be denied treatment if they are X number of pounds overweight, smoke cigarettes, or drink alcohol because they "contributed" to their own health problems.

Illegals will get special medical care cuz we wouldn't want to appear "racist".

sw

25 posted on 04/30/2009 3:31:28 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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Isn’t Obama’s Grandmother a perfect example of his scheme for health care?

She goes to the hospital for hip problems and a couple of months later she is dead.

Is this really the type of health care we need or is it legalized genocide of the geriatric?


30 posted on 04/30/2009 3:38:48 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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This country would have plenty of Health care dollars available if we were not caring for Non-Americans who are coming here by the millions every year.

We could also save money by repealing laws that require the police to take Intoxicated Persons to the Hospital every time they are found lying on the sidewalk.

Your average drunk can cost the taxpayers millions of dollars every year in Ambulance Rides and care at the hospital.

That go's double for Narcotic abusers who have a history of Narcotics abuse.

Those are good places to start cutting back.

37 posted on 04/30/2009 3:41:07 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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Ah, the wonders of COMMUNIST planning, eh, Goober.


39 posted on 04/30/2009 3:43:00 PM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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Soylent Green.


42 posted on 04/30/2009 3:56:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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Once this gets rationalized think how easy this "well they're a drain" is to apply to the military.

Johnny lost his leg...... we could get him a replacement, a blood transfusion, antibiotics, pain killers, and physical therapy, but he'll just be a useless eater unable to contribute to the "greater good."

48 posted on 04/30/2009 4:17:07 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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“I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement, just because she’s my grandmother.

So why didn't you pay for it, Barry?
In fact, Barry - you can still pay back the cost, if you so choose.

Waiting....

49 posted on 04/30/2009 4:17:42 PM PDT by Velveeta
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