Posted on 03/28/2009 7:32:58 AM PDT by estrogen
who is up for a march?
The tea parties are great, but getting NO coverage. They would have to cover a DC march.
I am on the 912 project site and rec’d a reply post about a July 4 march called Operation Red Dawn???? I cannot vouch for it’s veracity
I agree. I have never been a person to take part in this type of thing. I’m not a joiner, I don’t the feeling of someone else speaking for me, but I think I would participate in this. I’m feeling so helpless, frustrated and angry, that I think we have to do something that will get noticed, being careful to be orderly and law abiding.
The fourth is a Saturday, a good day for a protest. Which day is the day off, Friday or Monday?
Thomas Paine, author of "Common Sense," returns to modern times to pleas for a second revolution to take back America, Now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
Thomas Paine, author of "Common Sense," speaks out about ZeroBama's Economic Stimulus!!
Several minutes and few replies...everyone thinking?
What a task to plan and execute...not easily or quickly done.
My understanding is there is one slated for 9/10-9/12.
We would have to get Kristinn or the DC group to get us the required permits etc. We could all chip in for the cost. Other than having the permits, what is so hard about just showing up?
I really want to do this......I am sick and tired of feeling so helpless as I watch Obama throw so much at us that it twirls your brain
The sad part is, it is so much that half the stuff will get pushed through and we won’t even know about it. Scary stuff
DC friends: trooprally, BufordP any ideas, any plans you know about?
bump
He had me until he said “abolish the electoral college.”
With that, he proves he doesn’t get it.
But don't be deceived. "They" do not "have" to cover it. There were 250,000+ at the March for Life and how much coverage did that get?
A million people don’t need a permit.
I’d march if I thought we were going to do more than just show up, yell and few slogans, and go home like we actually did something.
Now... if we actually choked the capital and prevented this government from continuing to ruin us - THAT I would be down with.
March on Washington? To what end? To tell the terrorists there that we don’t like what is going on? To demonstrate the large numbers of people who pay the taxes and do the work?
You think the terrorists in Washington don’t know this already? They do and they simply don’t care. They know that so long as you only talk and whine you don’t matter.
The terrorists in Washington are robbing your house and just like a thief in your house the robbery will only stop when:
1. There is nothing left and they leave...if you are lucky. Once the thief dominates you and sees your weakness he will likely continue to abuse you, this is a power trip.
2. You stop it by force, take your property back and vanquish the thief by restraint or destruction. Restraint is a forever problem to you, destruction is a forever solution.
“He had me until he said “abolish the electoral college.”
With that, he proves he doesn’t get it.”
Details. Minor details. Even we don’t agree on everything. But you have to start somewhere. Things like this can be worked out.
I agreed with most of what he said, true, but this one is a BIG one. It’ll immediately lead to a tyranny of metropolitan areas. And we all know which way the city-folk lean.
“Now... if we actually choked the capital and prevented this government from continuing to ruin us - THAT I would be down with.”
Ditto. I’m inundated with requests for money by every ‘save the party’ group (and their must be a thousand of them) and it’s always the same old same old. If I thought something constructive would be done, I’d give up my bucks and maybe even my time. Otherwise, it’s just a lot of pi$$in’ in the wind, and pocket lining for pols. Cynical? Me??
Without the pitch forks, there is no point.
for later
Years ago, Georgia Congressman Larry McDonald was working late in his Capitol Hill office when an old college friend knocked on his door. Larry rose and greeted his guest and, after exchanging the usual pleasantries, looking weary and a bit dejected, his friend slumped into a chair.
Larry asked him what was wrong.
With a little sigh, his friend said “Every few years, a group of us have to take time away from our jobs and come all the way up here to meet with our representatives and senators to try to head off some new effort to trash the Constitution. And I often get the feeling that these guys up here just aren’t listening.”
Laughing, Larry offered, “Most of they don’t listen” then added, “You do know, don’t you, that there’s a better way?”
“What’s that, Larry?”
“You and your friends ought to get together at home and find a House candidates who shares your values and get behind him with support and resources and REPLACE those guys who aren’t listening. And if there is no candidate with those qualifications, go out and CREATE one – maybe even run yourself! And if, down the road, the new guy stops listening to you, work to replace HIM. The beauty of the House of Representatives is that the Founding Fathers designed it so that these folks have to come home every 24 months to get their tickets punched by the voters. And as we both know, the taxing and spending occur in the House. If the lower house refused to fund some liberty destroying or unconstitutional agency or program, it just won’t happen.”
“And voter opinions in those district elections are pretty much NOT controlled by the New York Time, Time, ABC, CBS, NBC and the rest of the leftist so-called main stream media. And THAT’S a real advantage if you’re trying to get a REAL conservative elected to this place.”
“But, Larry, how do we convince the rest of the voters that the incumbent needs to be replaced?”
“That used to be a real challenge since poll after poll asking folks what they thought of congress usually got very negative answers. But when asked how they thought THEIR guys were doing up here got responses indicating that THEIR guys were doing a good job. (NOTE: Check at WWW.THROWTHEMOUT.COM to see how YOUR GUY is REALLY DOING!)
“Does it work, Larry?”
“One of my favorite stories about that is the 16 year-old paperboy out in the Midwest who every quarter paid to print up 10,000 flyers listing how HIS representative was voting and threw them on his route and in another 9,500 lawns in his district – FROM HIS BIKE! After 3 quarters of that, the incumbent was ousted for someone who more closely represented the views of the voters. On election night, the red-faced loser was interviewed on TV and, waving one of the flyers, sputtered that it was a right-wing plot to “get him.” It was GREAT TV.”
“A ‘plot’ by a 16 year-old paperboy.” Larry and his guest laughed.
“And it’s happening all over the country – even in my state, Georgia. My supporters down there are keeping the voters in the 7th informed about my votes up here. Since my only standard is the Constitution, they keep sending me back. So it works both ways: The good guys get reelected and the bad guys get sent home – or hang around as lobbyists.” Another chuckle.
“But what about the presidential election?”
“While important, if we had 300 or so decent representatives up here on the Hill, they’d take back much of the power they’ve shipped down to 1600 over the past years and the 4 year beauty contest would become far less important than it now is. A metaphor for these elections for president, representatives and senate is a 3 card Monte game: While everyone is focused on the card marked with the “P,” the “R” and “S” cards are largely ignored.”
Larry’s friend returned home, got his friends and neighbors working to educate those around them – and within a year, had a new and improved representative.
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Around 6 am on dark morning in the early 80s, 4 of us piled into a car in Atlanta with a few hundred flyers detailing how then Georgia Representative Ed Jenkins and Senator Sam Nunn were voting on issues important to all citizens. Our destination was Hartwell, Georgia and an “Eggs and Issues Breakfast” hosted by a large Hartwell church.
We arrived at the church about an hour early and deployed. As folks arrived for the buffet line, each was handed some of this highly informative literature. As they waited in line, they read and chatted as new information came to their attention. Just before the invited dignitaries were to make their 20 minute speeches (aka, pitches for re-election), we made certain a supply of these flyers made it to the head table. Ed and Sam ate precious little of the fine southern breakfast cuisine before them as they periodically glanced menacingly at the table we occupied. In unison, the 4 of us smiled sweetly and waved.
When Ed and Sam each rose to speak, each devoted 16 or 17 minutes of the allotted 20 minutes TRYING TO DEFEND their DOCUMENTED VOTING RECORDS to an increasingly hostile gathering as we returned Ed and Sam’s constant withering glares with more sweet smiles and waves. It was truly one of the highlights of my early years as a political bomb-thrower. YOU should try it!
After a bit more bomb-throwing in other parts of his district, Ed Jenkins was defeated in the next election. Because he ran state-wide and we lacked the resources and manpower to cover the entire state (and he did begin to clean up his act) Sam hung on for another term or two. (And those 2 year House terms — where the power to tax and spend repose — is where the effort must be concentrated.
Friends, THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES: DOGGED PERSISTENT EFFORT OVER TIME. It’s the only acceptable way a system such as ours can be made to operate in any meaningful way.
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