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Liberal without even Trying
8/22/08 | Bowtie 52 / rara.us

Posted on 08/24/2008 7:41:23 AM PDT by Bowtie52

Liberal without even Trying

From the times of the Great Depression through the 1950’s, some people were known as those who were just “passing through” town. During that time, one could pass through a town anonymously. Those days are gone. With fingerprint, information, a certifiable form of identification, a social security number, a speck of DNA or a face recognition photograph authorities have the ability to know everything there is to know about an individual. That individual had better have their legal ducks in a row before passing anywhere.

This is but a tiny fragment of an example of those things that have happened to lessen individual freedom. It does not call to account financial transactions or a variety of other germane information. It is probably a good thing that people and their past may be immediately known to police forces and government agencies. Getting thieves, child molesters and murderers off the streets is always a good thing yet for those guilty of comparatively minor infractions such as vagrancy, disorderly conduct or possibly even traffic offenses, it may not. There is a degree of forgiveness that should be afforded an individual who has made the effort to clean up their act even if that forgiveness comes to them by way of a different geographic location.

Increasing the government’s ability to survey, investigate and control an individual has long been the dream of governmental authorities wishing to provide sustainable order among the people. Technology, without further legal augmentation makes this job far easier but it does so at the expense of the autonomy of the individual. Traditionally, legislation evoking increased taxation and erosion into personal freedom has been the province of the more liberal leaning of our leaders. Even without legislation that would further facilitate this erosion, technology has taken steps that they could have only dreamed of in years past.

During this election cycle, voters need to consider not only the credibility and integrity of the Candidates but they must also evaluate the value of “Freedom”. Do we want an even more extreme version of monitoring of our lives than that which was envisioned in the story “1984”? Is privacy a thing that should be discarded to the trash heap or is it a thing that should be preserved?

The issues offered as talking points by both candidates are sometimes an indicator of how they would respond to like issues when given the opportunity. Freedom, privacy and individual rights have never been a topic broached by a candidate during my lifetime but it may well be the defining issue I will take with me when I cast my vote. To date everything involving Obama’s “change” has appeared to me as an exchange. The concept is that he wants to exchange my rights and give them to the government to manage for me. No thanks.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: autonomy; electioncycle; freedom; individual; liberty; obamanation; orwelliannightmare; papersplease; policestate; totalitarianism; ussa

1 posted on 08/24/2008 7:41:23 AM PDT by Bowtie52
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To: Bowtie52
some people were known as those who were just “passing through” town. During that time, one could pass through a town anonymously. Those days are gone. With fingerprint, information, a certifiable form of identification, a social security number, a speck of DNA or a face recognition photograph authorities have the ability to know everything there is to know about an individual. That individual had better have their legal ducks in a row before passing anywhere.

Only if you are a citizen of Estados Unidos. If you are from Mexico no questions will be asked and if you are detained, you will be released without criminal charges, even if you are in posession of stolen/falsified identification.

It doesn't pay to be a citizen these days. Cities want revenue, not law enforcement.

2 posted on 08/24/2008 7:48:43 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: Bowtie52

I recently had some items stolen from my vehicle while parked in my driveway. (Yeah I didn’t lock it)

Upon reporting the crime to the local authorities, they wanted to know everything about me like my SS# and my employer, employers telephone etc. Then they wanted a DNA sample from me to compare with what they said was a DNA swab of the door handle for comparitive purposes, so maybe the unique DNA of the thief would be identified.. There were several neighbors who also had items stolen the same night. I am sure they were asked to provide the same information.

I told the officer I was hesitant about providing DNA because of the chain of authority who has the records. Of course, I have nothing to hide, so why do I need to be mulled over? I was assured the DNA would remain with one agency and the info would be safe. I relinquished my DNA. Because I know if (they) wanted a DNA sample, they could get it from the trash can without my permission.

I am somewhat leary of the fact that my DNA number will be crunched in an ongoing computer database search forever and ever. And that in my mind is offensive to me as a lawful citizen playing tag your it with the establishment.

You are right on in your assessment. Our government is constantly entrenching themselves deeper in deference to the citizens rights as a free people. The day will come soon where unpopular (depending on the political liberal or conservative)political speech will be met with retaliation or intimidation, or worse.


3 posted on 08/24/2008 8:27:45 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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