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Danica Patrick's Victory in the Indy Japan--Are the Rules Fair?
GlennSacks.com ^ | 4/24/08 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 04/24/2008 10:43:23 AM PDT by PercivalWalks

Danica Patrick became the first female winner in IndyCar history recently, winning the Indy Japan 300 by 6 seconds.

Some women's advocates and Patrick herself are complaining about a new rule which feminists claim is "aimed at the women in Indy." The rule says that lighter drivers have to carry ten more pounds on them.

Race car driver Robby Gordon has a different perspective, saying that Patrick is at an unfair advantage over the rest of the competitors because she only weighs 100 pounds. Because all the cars weigh the same, Patrick’s is lighter on the race track. He says:

“The lighter the car, the faster it goes. Do the math. Put her in the car at her weight, then put me or Tony Stewart in the car at 200 pounds and our car is at least 100 pounds heavier."

I know nothing about auto racing beyond what I learn from watching old Speed Racer cartoons with my daughter, but Dan H., a reader, does. He writes:

"Auto racing is about accelerating and decelerating weight in a straight line and an arc (corner). It takes a calculated amount of fuel (power) to accomplish this feat with the largest variable by several orders of magnitude the amount of weight that is being thrown around. Ever hear of 'Power-to-Weight Ratio?' In heavily equalized cars weighing 1500 pounds, a 100lb driver vs. a 165lb driver is a rigged race. Robbie Gordon is dead right: Forget It!

"With nearly the sole exception of Tony George’s Indy Racing League, all of the major series, and quite a few of the club racers, recognize this and either weigh the car and driver together or separately and make adjustments. The IRL introduced a laughable adjustment just this year.

"While racing officials do not concern themselves with the driver’s height, muscle mass, shoe size, eye color, gender, carbon footprint, or about a hundred other personal characteristics, they very much want to balance the weight across the drivers then let 'em race. In auto racing, the driver’s weight looms as large as horsepower, tire width, vehicle height, spoilers, and more.

"People demanding that Danica’s huge weight (speed) advantage be ignored have never fielded a $45,000,000 race team. She weighs 75 pounds less than the average male driver in a sport where the teams pay $500,000 to get 2 pounds out of the weight of a manifold.

"She is a mid-pack performer at best that finishes higher up because of her incredibly advantageous weight. Bolt 20 pounds in the chassis beside each shoulder and her gender-provided weight bias disappears...and so does her up front finishes."

From what Dan H. says, it sounds a little like the Boston Marathon where a woman "won" the race because the female runners started the race 29 minutes before the men. If they spend $500,000 to decrease a car's weight by two pounds, a 75 pound difference seems staggering, and the 10 pound balancing that Patrick and feminists are complaining about seems pretty minor.

On the other hand, I wonder if Patrick's strength disadvantage also means something. Let's say, for example, that they equalized the weights, as they apparently do in most of the races. Would it then be unfair to Patrick because she is effectively forced to carry "dead weight," while the male drivers' extra weight is at least in the form of muscle that helps them drive the cars?

On another level, even to compete and be a "mid-pack performer" as a professional race car driver, as Patrick has done, seems like quite an achievement.

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Glenn Sacks, www.GlennSacks.com


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: danicapatrick; indycar
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1 posted on 04/24/2008 10:44:06 AM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

Ahhh... the Barack Obama whining comes to the world of sports. If you can’t deal with losing to a girl... then don’t play the game!


2 posted on 04/24/2008 10:46:33 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: PercivalWalks
The rule says that lighter drivers have to carry ten more pounds on them.

The year was 2081, and everyone was finally equal.

3 posted on 04/24/2008 10:47:31 AM PDT by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: PercivalWalks

Added weight makes sense to me. That’s how it’s done in horse racing.


4 posted on 04/24/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: pnh102

I’ld be more than happy to follow Danica around for a few laps. :-)


5 posted on 04/24/2008 10:48:07 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. Yeah... I guess.)
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To: pnh102

Yeah, but keep this up and all the drivers will look like horse jockeys.


6 posted on 04/24/2008 10:48:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: PercivalWalks

So now we have a sport that women have a built in advantage... what would the feminists say about that?


7 posted on 04/24/2008 10:48:52 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: PercivalWalks

On one hand, they equalize weights between Jockeys for horse races.

On the other hand, if the other teams feel that a woman driver is an advanage, they can get their own women drivers.


8 posted on 04/24/2008 10:49:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: PercivalWalks

That’s definitely a SEXIST rule. What about upper body strength advantage that Men have?

LANCE ARMSTRONG a great American Sports Hero and Hero in general, his BIGGEST advantage comes from being in great shape and essentially being lighter.

Time and again he took his leads in the Mountains during Tour De France. Its much easier for a rider to gain elevation when he is NOT fighting his own weight.

Should he have made to put weight on his bike to give fair advantage to other cyclists?

Little *icks can’t handle a real woman.


9 posted on 04/24/2008 10:49:48 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: pnh102

What did the article say? I was too busy looking at the pics.


10 posted on 04/24/2008 10:50:25 AM PDT by ironwill (I want my daddy's records.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Tell me this - why aren’t the best (i.e. fastest) drivers all built like jockeys, if being underweight is such an advantage?


11 posted on 04/24/2008 10:50:57 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: ironwill

what article?


12 posted on 04/24/2008 10:52:36 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yeah, but keep this up and all the drivers will look like horse jockeys.

And then there will be Congressional hearings.

13 posted on 04/24/2008 10:53:21 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: PercivalWalks

Iwas such a advantage, she would be the Tiger Woods of racing, gettng win after win! This is her 1st win in 2 or 3 years


14 posted on 04/24/2008 10:53:27 AM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: AbeKrieger

if being underweight is an advantage, they should hire me.


15 posted on 04/24/2008 10:53:28 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: najida; envisio

y’all should check this one out :)


16 posted on 04/24/2008 10:54:31 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: PercivalWalks

Before each race each fully fueled car should be driven by its fully equipped driver onto a scale and weighed. Each car should then have weights added to it to make it weigh the same as the heaviest car/driver combination in the field. After that, start the race...


17 posted on 04/24/2008 10:56:45 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: PercivalWalks

When you PERK, you win?


18 posted on 04/24/2008 10:56:45 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: PercivalWalks

Anyone involved with racing for any length of time should be aware that a number of competitive series and even many local tracks use ‘wet weight’ to determine the minimum weight rule - that generally includes all fluids, a full tank of fuel and the driver.

This is nothing new and has been a contentious issue in rules management for many many years in multiple forms of racing.


19 posted on 04/24/2008 10:57:21 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: PercivalWalks

I would love to see Danica try her hand at NASCAR racing, say down in the Truck Series at first. I think she’s got enough game to compete, maybe even at the Cup level, but the telephone books she’d have to sit on to peer out over the windshield might prove a disadvantage...

}:-)4


20 posted on 04/24/2008 10:57:32 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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