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(though things could always be worse. pardon the vanity)

1 posted on 03/10/2008 7:00:25 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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You Who.


2 posted on 03/10/2008 7:00:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I'm just glad you didn't say: ... and boy are my arms tired.
3 posted on 03/10/2008 7:02:29 AM PDT by mnehring (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. - Ayn Rand)
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Flew from SLC to Cincinnati on Delta last week coach class. It's a 3.5 hour flight ... the flight attendants made one pass with the beverage cart during the flight. What the he** do these people do anymore except stand around and BS in the galley?
5 posted on 03/10/2008 7:09:23 AM PDT by BluH2o
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I fly frequently. And I smoke. Flying out of Jacksonville, FL pretty much necessitates the need for a connection flight to my destination. Airports can't give us smokers just one cloudy room within the secured area? Is this just too much to ask? Nothing like having to go outside and then go back through security just to have a cigarette between my flights.

I try to book all my connecting flights through Atlanta International because they seem to be one of the only airports that still maintains smoking lounges. Though probably for not much longer.

6 posted on 03/10/2008 7:09:30 AM PDT by Drew68
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Good morning..first, I'm sure you enjoyed, (on my Rudy supporters amnesty thread) that many found out that you were still here..LOL

I've long had a theory about why the airlines suck, and why deregulation didn't work.and still doesn't. It's because we didn't have true deregulation. Fixed airfares were eliminated, and airlines, especially start-ups (remember People's Express??) were free to exploit market niches. However, the problem is that gate space at airports is limited, and tightly controlled by complicated bidding and lease processes, and the airlines that hold the rights, even if the capacity is underused..can't be forced to give them up. Thus, new start-ups, who would normally be eager to enter the market, withotu onerous union contracts, and compete on price AND service, can't get in.

7 posted on 03/10/2008 7:11:16 AM PDT by ken5050
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Hubby and I flew from Killeen Texas to Bangor Maine in Jan. It only took us three days to get home.
8 posted on 03/10/2008 7:14:50 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: martin_fierro
If you complained, you could pose for Playboy.

9 posted on 03/10/2008 7:16:39 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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What airline is this? Delta, AirTran and Spirit all board back to front. (after #1 and #2)


10 posted on 03/10/2008 7:20:17 AM PDT by sarasota
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Was the boarding of coach class the only thing that “sucked” about your flight? Just curious. Were there any other issues?


11 posted on 03/10/2008 7:20:28 AM PDT by Hatteras
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Unfortunately, it is not just the airlines, it is the entire business community.

Customer service, the keystone of corporate success, is nearly non-existant in all industries.

My business gets more customers every year because we not only service them but respect them as well.

Amazing how far you can get by using the words "sir" and "ma'am." And giving Lindt chocolates to receptionists when you visit a company doesn't hurt either.

People can say what they will about Wal-Mart, but how many companies have a person at the door welcoming you to their store when you walk through their doors?

12 posted on 03/10/2008 7:23:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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The masses buy the cheapest, most direct, flight they can find. Companies also push for this when employees book their travel.

When I order through the computer travel agency my company has set up, there is an automatic message that pops up saying “You have not selected the lowest airfare. Please fill in the reason.” If the reason is not a more direct flight or arrival or departure time it is tough to explain it to my manager.

Top notch service costs airlines money. If customers continually show they don’t care about it. Airlines will keep reducing it.


15 posted on 03/10/2008 7:25:21 AM PDT by toast
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People would rather have cheap airfare than service.


18 posted on 03/10/2008 7:27:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Flight attendant unions

Unreasonable passenger expectations?

From your list, the above two I see as what makes flying less than fun.

19 posted on 03/10/2008 7:33:25 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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Martin—I sympathize for you.

I haven’t flown since Sept. 2002. I couldn’t take it anymore, plus the TSA screener poking my belly to see if I was carrying an explosive on the plane was the last straw. I knew I was going to erupt and get put in jail.

Before then, the longest I would drive is four hours. Otherwise I would fly. I flew in my career all over the US from 1978 to 2002. I can remember when stews were ATTRACTIVE!

Now it is worse than being on a bus in Central America. If you remember People Express from the mid 1980s, this was the shape of things to come—all airlines are now the cattle cars they used to be. We are still flying the same narrow tubes with wings since 1970, instead of the spread out delta wings futuristic planes we were shown in ‘70s.

The seats are still uncomfortable and too narrow. The whole paradigm for flying needs to change.

My first flight was as a teenager in 1969. I can still remember the thrill of the tskeoff and that funny feeling in your stomach when you realize you are airborne.

I changed careers to lessen my air travel by 1997—it was getting bad even then, After 9/11, it became intolerable.

Now I work over the Internet, and my wife and I have a comfortable minivan and we can do as much as 13 hours of driving in a day. We carry as much stuff as we want, don’t get searched, make our own schedule, and see the sights along the way.

I feel for anyone who has to fly for their career or business. All I can suggest is the use of computer cameras and video conferencing to keep your sanity. VC is much more productive as flying entails the early arrival, the search, the delays, the rushing around—when you can cut off the video after the call and be right in your office working.

One of the things I have against Islam is that they have changed life in America for the worse. It pains me that a bunch of sand jockeys whose leader lives in a cave changed my way of life irrevocably.

To me, the airlines today are the buses of yesterday. With wings.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 7:45:45 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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Any flight OUT OF Buffalo is a good one.

I can’t wait to move away from this corrupt festering ooze-pit.

And where the hell is Great all over this Frank Clark NIFONG case?

A woman went to jail for 13 years when it is obvious to everyone INCLUDING THE JUDGE that the boyfreind did it- and he was GIVEN TOTAL IMMUNITY

The idiot DA was on the news yesterday saying how open and public ALL the information was, but the investigating detective was SUSPENDED for releasing a video to the press.

He was also confirming how the guilty party would never lose his immunity- no matter what. However isn’t it common practice that you lose your immunity if you lie under oath?

This 13 year old girl was found WITH DNA ON HER and enough cocaine to choke a horse in her system.

And they imprisoned the innocent mother for 13 years

(ok lets not yet get into how ‘innocent’ she is if her b/f was bopping her daughter and doing cocaine and she is unaware)


24 posted on 03/10/2008 7:55:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Carol Burnett Show- No Frills Airline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCz8he36hsk

Carol Burnett Show- Speedo Airlines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvasXb3sdxU


27 posted on 03/10/2008 8:17:19 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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I would think 3rd boarding wouldn't be too bad since almost everyone else is on the plane. The degree of assistance needed to board is really being stretched.
28 posted on 03/10/2008 8:29:11 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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I JUST FLEW IN FROM BUFFALO (and boy, did it ever suck!)

Isnt that supposed to go: "I JUST FLEW IN FROM BUFFALO (and boy, are my arms tired!)" ?

33 posted on 03/10/2008 9:09:56 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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Get a new ride.
34 posted on 03/10/2008 9:41:51 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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I don’t fly domestically except as the first leg of a trip to Viet Nam but I do pay a couple of hundred extra in order to not fly on an American airline for that long ride to Asia. The short hop to Atlanta on Delta is bad enough. I can stand it for a couple of hours but 16 hours in the air on an American plane? That sort of self-abuse is unthinkable.


37 posted on 03/10/2008 4:33:22 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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