Why Is Ron Paul Paying 911 Truther Conspiracy Nut, Alex Jones?

Stop The ACLU ^ | October 27, 2007

[West Coast Conservative]

I’ve sympathized for Mr. Paul on several occassions and defended his personal mental state from that of his followers. I’ve stated before that he can’t help how nutty his fans are, and that just because so many of them think the U.S. secretly blew up the twin towers doesn’t mean that he does. I’ve also stated he should visibly distance himself from these wacky beliefs. Of course he hasn’t done that, leaning more in the direction of sympathetic to their cause. Now, [1] Beth has discovered a payment from Team Paul to Alex Jones, the 9/11 Truther leader, [2] for $1300 in “services”.

Well, now he has [3] some explaining to do.

Assuming it’s the same Alex Jones, which seems a safe bet, pray tell what might that payment have been for? The likeliest explanation is that it’s some sort of service fee, either Jones doing something on behalf of the campaign or allowing the campaign to do something using his property. Either way, I’m mighty curious to know what special service might have been provided such that Paul’s people couldn’t have gone elsewhere and gotten the same deal from someone who isn’t a degenerate conspiracy theorist.

[4] Captain Ed:

This goes much closer to the heart of Paul’s direction. While anyone can contribute to a political campaign, the choice of where the money goes is directly and completely relevant to an analysis of the candidate. If Paul chooses to help fund a 9/11 Truther, voters can reasonably conclude that Paul has sympathy for the paranoid conspiracy theorists.

The Paul campaign really has to explain their support of Alex Jones, more so than they need to explain the David Black contribution. So far, they haven’t explained either one.

I agree. It isn’t the donation or its amount that matters, but who it was given to. That is what will be hard to wiggle out of .

[Tears of a Clown]

Ron Paul: Official Candidate of the Twoofers

[trisham]

Uh-oh.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Get-a-good-seat-and-watch-the-squirrels-start-pouring-out-of-their-tree-holes PING! ;)

[Allegra]

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[George W. Bush]

The Paul campaign really has to explain their support of Alex Jones, more so than they need to explain the David Black contribution. So far, they haven’t explained either one.

I still want to see the David Black donation returned. People keep saying RP should donate elsewhere like to a Jewish charity but that's dishonest. You either accept it or return it, not funnel it away to something else. To go Seinfeld on it, "No re-gifting".

I wonder how many people in this country are named Alex Jones? Tens of thousands, probably. Jones is a very common name and Alex has been a popular name since the Sixties at least.

Seems to me that if Ron Paul was going to pay the Alex Jones for something, it would be a lot more than a puny $1300. Jones probably rakes in more than that every day with his little Truther videos and books.

Per the usual practice, I notice the article and the posters here running with the usual unproven crapfest that characterizes their Paul-hating posts. No one has even proven that this is the Alex Jones, let alone what the payment was for.

I'm going to wait to see what the campaign says about it if they're asked.

[George W. Bush]

I noticed this little tidbit on the payee's page:

Allegra Print & Imaging 65,613.00

Allegra, how could you?? LOL!

[Allegra]

I'm not the only Allegra in the world. Or even in the U.S. Or even in my hometown of Houston.

The only way that could be me is if Hell has frozen over or pigs are flying around. Haven't seen any pigs with wings around.

So, are the Ron Paul fans all mad because the surge is working? LOL

[George W. Bush]

Actually, they don't seem to discuss the Iraq war all that much. When they do, it's mostly just used as a stick to beat on Bush or the supposedly antiwar Dims in Congress and such.

As for the surge working, much as with Vietnam I think we'll find that military success is easy for us given our wealth and weapons and training. What's elusive is political success.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I wonder how many people in this country are named Alex Jones? Tens of thousands, probably. Jones is a very common name and Alex has been a popular name since the Sixties at least.

[George W. Bush]

Dude, you’re gonna go blind if you keep that up.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Dude, you’re gonna go blind if you keep that up.

Better physical self-abuse than the Paulestinian brand of intellectual onanism.

"Tens of thousands of people named Alex Jones." *snarf*

[George W. Bush]

By the time you count both men and women named "Alex Jones", there probably are tens of thousands of them in the country.

My last name isn't all that common but I know of half a dozen others with the same name in my sparsely populated area of a rural state.

These common names like Smith or Brown or Jones, there's tens of millions of them.

I notice you still can't prove that this is the Alex Jones. More speculation. Find some proof.

[trisham]

LOL!

[SJackson]

Babyshere Inc.---42,325.99

BabysHere, Inc. Invitations maybe, that's a lot of baby stuff.

[George W. Bush]

Since the subject came up on a few threads, I thought I'd point out the following and flag those who I thought might care. You can verify this at the link.

On 9/22/07, the Paul campaign made a "Contribution Refund" of $1300 to the following Alex Jones of Austin:

Mr. Alex Jones
910 W Mary St
Austin, Texas 787044142

Schedule B for ALL Line #'s

[lormand]

Alex Jones is a local wacko here in Austin Texas.

Austin, our little piece of Berkeley California here in Texas.

[lormand]

"By the time you count both men and women named "Alex Jones", there probably are tens of thousands of them in the country."

Yeah, I'm sure there are some male and female Barry Manilows out there too. Do you actually think RP has that much support, that tens of thousands of people named 'Alex Jones' are giving money to this wacko?

You guys are embarrassing us normal Freepers.

"More speculation. Find some proof."

Once it is proven, what will be your next pathetic excuse?

[George W. Bush]

See my #16. Looks like RP was returning Alex Jones donation. Or at least part of it.

There's speculation about it still.

• Some people thought that this was to pay for advertising. Unlikely as that would be a check written to Jones' company.
• Some people think it might have been a return because Jones provided some in-kind service. Possibly. But again, those would be dealings with his company, not with him personally.
• I think Jones donated his $2300 and then added $1000 for the general campaign. Some candidates, Romney at least, are accepting money for the general election already and will return it if they don't get the nomination. Ron Paul's campaign made a point a while back of telling us they would not accept general election campaign funds yet. Who knows, maybe it's unconstitutional. I assume that at least some donors tried donating for the general election or the campaign wouldn't have announced they wouldn't take those donations. So anyone who did donate for the general would get a refund. In this case, Jones probably wrote a check for $3300 and they cashed it to get the $2300 they were willing to accept and they then wrote a check back to refund the $1000 to him.

Anyway, that's pretty full disclosure, no matter how many nasty remarks you like to troll through a Ron Paul thread with.

Instead of speculation and nasty remarks, you could have dug that info out just as easily as I did. I think you spend more time on those Ron Paul forums than his actual supporters do. LOL.

[George W. Bush]

In the nictusa database, they show 14 people responsing to a search for “Alex” and “Jones” since 1997 in all political races in the country. It seems the database only lists those contributing over $200.

This includes a number of Alexanders, an Alexis, and so forth.

Either Alex Jones isn’t that common a name or the Joneses are political cheapskates. At any rate, tends of thousands might have been overestimation. But only by three orders of magnitude! LOL.